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Roulette Random Numbers

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Thomas Grant, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. Thomas Grant

    Thomas Grant New Member

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    When most people download and install a casino, they play in fun mode first.
    This mode uses Internal Random numbers. That is to say, that your PC and the software in the casino platform produces random numbers. When you play with Real money.
    The casino that you downloaded goes to External Random numbers.
    That means the numbers come from an external source.

    So lets chat about random numbers.
    Many people that play say that the numbers that casino give you are rigged somehow.
    Or that its impossible for certain number that they were playing to have turned up.
    Or they say, "Its if the casino knows where I place my bets"
    Some have gone so far to produce some kind of proof of any of those statements.

    You have to understand the Law of Randomness.

    Randomness means lack of pattern or predictability in events.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness

    Law of Random Numbers
    It has been brought to my attention that the law of random numbers
    changes the odds of picking numbers in order, or close in order. I
    have been told that numbers in order, such as 1,2,3,4,5,6, have a
    smaller probability than numbers that are more random. Is this true
    and how is it proven?

    http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56581.html

    Random Number
    A random number is a number chosen as if by chance from some specified distribution such that selection of a large set of these numbers reproduces the underlying distribution
    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RandomNumber.html

    Ok, what does that all mean when it comes to playing roulette?
    All Roulette systems are based on two things.
    1. Statistics
    2. Probability.

    What are the odds of the number 7 turning up 21 times in a row?
    We have seen a number turn up twice.
    Some have seen a number turn up 3 times.
    Rare to see it go above 4 times.

    What people do not realize, is that any number has an equal chance of showing up.
    In roulette you have 37 number that could appear.
    Randomness can chose any one of those 37 numbers to appear at any time.
    So if randomness chooses the number 7 for the first spin.
    The next spin it could chose the number 7 again.
    Randomness has no memory of what the last number was.
    Randomness has only one job. And that is to chose a random number for the next spin.
    So what that means that any attempt to predict what may or may not happen is impossible.

    Statistics and Probability.
    Every system I have ever seen.
    And there have been many.
    All use these two things.
    What are the odds of x happening?

    When I go back to the very first ebook I purchased on Roulette.
    Way back when...
    It told me to bet on Dozens after 7 spins or 7 misses.
    I did so. Amazingly I took a $200 account to over $2000
    It took a while to do so. Slow and steady.
    Had no idea what I was doing.
    Then I tried to withdraw the money.
    Ahh.. this is where the bonus money came in.
    Was not able to withdraw until I reached 36 times the amount.
    Read the fine print. Never take bonuses. No matter how good they are.
    But that's another story...

    Back to randomness.

    Can you win playing Roulette?
    Yes and no.
    It depends on YOU.
    A bit of luck. The run of the numbers.
    Some days you will be very lucky.
    Some days you will lose all you have.
    And blame the casino for the loses.

    If the smartest people on the planet are unable to beat roulette.
    What chance do you have?

    It's not about beating roulette.
    Or finding the Holy Grail.

    Its about wining.
    Can you win more than you can lose?

    If so.
    Then you can do well.
     
  2. Jesper Svensson

    Jesper Svensson Member

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    There are casinos use the same random generator in fun mode as in real. They use TRNG which nobody can see it is a rng and not a Wheel.
    If they can it is the Wheel which happen to not be random.

    It is possible a online casino can be rigged, if we do not trust we do not play, so some casinos provide a randoness Control, which make sure
    it is not cheating. Do not mix the Control up with randomness, it makes not sure it is random, it just make sure the did not change the numbers.

    As they give max 60 numbers, and if you play static, it is possible next time send a tampered string. I do not say they do, and I do not suspect it, but it is possible to do. I see often claims a bad streak can not be random, it is said to be rigged,

    If a sample of 200 not have a streak of av least seven, you should rather suspect that is not random.

    If we set the randomness controll at 60, and bet after, change the number after 60 more spins, there is no way it can be a cheat with numbers.

    The way I play I lose the most time small, and win bigger at few times, in my Life I may be down, but not the last two years.
     

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