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Misc Reading Randomness the Course, or the Book.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by gizmotron, Sep 26, 2020.

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Would You Pay a Small Fee to Be Trained in Reading Randomness Step by Step?

Poll closed Oct 10, 2020.
  1. $19.95 is not too much?

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  2. $24.95 is not too much?

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  3. $39.95 is not too much?

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  4. It's worthless.

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  1. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

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    Maybe it was just bad luck as played only a handful of sessions losing 3 out of 6,which was way worse than 3 out of 20 when running practice software or RS.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Try this in the practice software. Use 5 as the unit size for funded bets and 0 for virtual bets. Then try to get three net wins, around 250 to 300 , where 270 is dead on for 18 numbers, with 2800 as the loss limit. This will get you about 30 lost net bets. Just see if you can win every session. I do it that way now.
     
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  3. Rulet

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    If you can read random and winning? What are you doing here?
    Go and make your fortune.
     
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  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm just making sure everyone knows where all this came from before I die. There's a lot more to life than making a fortune.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Perhaps the course is not really needed. I'm going to share this private message. I will redact the name so only he will be able to tell who he is. It's a really good example why I did this. People are the easiest to program.

    "Hello Gizmo

    hope you are well.
    Grab a drink, its gonna be a long message.

    So to start off, around a year ago I broke my hand and for the first time in forever I had time to do nothing. I was looking at a few months with a cast and then physiotherapy. So after catching up on some movies and tv shows I said to myself let's see what you guys were up to.
    There was a lot I have missed but with that much time on my hands it was a welcome reading.
    I said to myself I will go through the last few years of threads, anything I think has potential I will do a little test and if I find it working it will go on my to-do list. After I am done I will check my list and then one by one do a larger test and find something that works for me.

    So there I was reading all sorts of stuff when I checked the gambling forums forum and saw the RR thread. Like I said earlier, I was surprised and excited. So I read the whole thread and found it very interesting. Did a few quick tests, found out I got some questions and so I read the thread again and got most of them answered.

    Then it was time for a quick test to see if it goes on the list. I could not get the software to run (later figured out I had forgotten the "?" after the 007 Software, yea, I'm an idiot I know) but I had your old "Roulette Marque 3.2" program from some time way back so I used that. Needles to say it only has the 3 EC so every zero was a loss for me. I was "handicapped" also with only 3 streams of data (though I guess we can use "same as last" and "opposite of last" for every EC doubling them to 6) but on the bright side I had to use only 1 chip when betting so it was easier in that respect and for later real live play.

    I tested in the following way: I let 10 spins go by and then I look at what is happening and bet accordingly. I bet the strong side of the trend until it stops and then look if another trend is happening in another EC. I used a win goal of 3 units and a stop loss of 7 units.
    My first test was 50 games and I got 39 wins and 11 losses, 3.55 to 1 ratio, not bad at all for a start but I felt like I could do better and I had some more questions on my mind. So I went back to the RR thread and read it once more, this time I skipped all the trolling and even copy pasted some things you said in a separate Word document so I have them If/when I need to read them again.
    (It is a good habit for me to read something twice since the language barrier can sometimes cause me to skip on stuff or misunderstand them.)
    So after reading again and figuring out my mistakes, I did another test, this time 20 games. I did get lucky and had only 2 losses here but that is not really so important, the important part is that my sessions were shorter and it felt easier.
    I also noticed all kind of trends going on, the visual part of the software is awesome. I had once a weak side going 1 2 1 2 1 2 for 30+ spins, I had singles on the weak side for 70+, all kinds of stuff happens all day, just like you said. MY favorite I call " the mirror", when you get X Y 1 1 Y X where X's are the same length and very often so are Y's (both are 2+ in length).

    So I put RR on my list and continued on with my reading. And yes, looking back I would have continued with RR but I know me and I would always wonder what the next thread was and maybe it was great and maybe I could have learnt something and maybe this maybe that...
    Fast forward a couple of months and I am reading same old same old, getting frustrated with basically wasting my time on reading nonsense, so I said to myself that's it, I am done, lets check the list and move on.
    On my list was : No 1 RR, No 2 blank... yep, that was it

    So I did a few more test to get a feel for it again, skimmed over the thread once more and did a bigger test.
    My results this time were: 200 games played, 25 games lost, 175 games won, total +350 units. That is a whooping 7 to 1 win loss ration, insane. I could not really believe it when I calculated everything up. It's almost 9000 spins (well 7000 cause I waited 10 spins every game, but it should surely be over 5000 placed bets) and at that point it should not be a case of very good luck anymore. My average game is 45 spins (10 waited and 35 played) and average 1.75 unit per game.
    Out of those 200 games I had 2 games where I just could not hit a winner, all 7 bets I made lost (the virtual bets normally won off course) and it was very interesting to experience that. I had 21 games where my first 3 bets won (math says it should be 25).
    And still I had a feeling I could do better, cause I recognized when I made mistakes and when I didn't see something in time and so on.

    So I wanted to test this for real in a casino and my plan was actually to get in touch with you later when I had results of live play to give you. I had 20 bucks lying on a Online Casino and said ok lets try it with cents and see how it feels in real play.
    So far after 20 games I am at -22 with 8 losses. I messed up a couple of times with my scoring, that's why its 22.
    Main problem is I am playing at a sling shot, the only thing they have with the "La Partage" rule, and its very fast, barely can make my bets, let alone stop and think. I did mess myself up a couple of times, bet the wrong thing. And don't know why but in the beginning I was jumping from one EC to another instead of staying with the trend (looking back at my results I would not lose so many times that way).
    My next step is to look at other tables they have and find one that's slower so when I play I have a bit of time to think. Or I will maybe skip some spins while thinking, will see.

    Which brings me to the other day when I saw that you wrote that you will use 30 units now instead of 7.
    I think that is a very good idea. While testing I tested a couple of different MM, one was to use 10 units instead of 7. In my test, 6 of those 25 losses were turned into wins just by having 3 units more BR. So I agree with you that with 30 units a loss should be near impossible.
    Also, if in a long game and we are in negative we can stop and continue the next day from where we left of Bankroll wise, right?


    Wow what a load of text, sorry about that

    Anyway, that's all for now. I hope that its not a boring read and that I made very few mistakes.
    Looking forward to hearing from you

    Regards,
    ?."
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Wow, someone just up voted an answer I gave someone on online social media.

    "How do I overcome my gambling addiction?

    May 13, 2019

    Originally Answered: How do you cure someone with a gambling addiction?

    If it were a poison oak rash then you would stop jumping in poison oak bushes. The very definition of gambling addiction is in having a compulsion to participate in an activity that depletes your resources that are needed for other life sustaining necessities. It’s a form of self destruction. The obvious cure is to stop depleting your necessary resources.

    I had this same problem for a few years, more than 25 years ago. My first move was to relocate several hundreds of miles from casinos. That left me with just thinking about strategies without putting money at risk. So I set out to find my own answers without it messing with my income. It took almost 11 years of very difficult research to figure out what works.

    I can tell you from personal experience that winning every time I go to a casino now is far more rewarding than what I was doing to myself that was self destructive. I don’t get exited any more like Pavlov's dog when driving to a casino. I use to feel the Adrenalin rush with anticipation of gambling. I had my ridiculous system for the day all figured out and was rehashing it over and over what I was going to do in my mind. I was unaware of the fact that I had already planned to lose it all. Before I ever stepped one foot into the casino I had already planned to lose my bankroll.

    If you want to be cured then you must change your methods and strategy. To be cured means that you know how to win and that you will win each time you set out to play. If I were you, coming from real experience, I would never go to a casino or gamble online until you can execute a winning method. You will not find the expertise of a professional, successful, gambler just hanging on a tree like some ripe fruit for the picking. What I know would wreck the gambling industry. If shared it would wreck any future opportunity to resource it. So consequently I will not share it. Nobody believes it anyway. That one thing is to my advantage. For me it is more like finding a stream with nice pick-able sized gold nuggets just laying there in plain view to be gathered.

    So I no longer get anxious about what I plan to do and execute when I walk in the door of a casino. So if you really want to be cured you can take the path that almost nobody takes and figure it all out in a nondestructive manner. Taking the real cure is much harder than degrading yourself, labeling yourself, stigmatizing yourself, and worst of all, giving up on yourself. You started out wanting to win and to have that change your life. It’s the hardest thing you will ever do. You must find everything that does not work and find a better way around each of these things without destroying yourself. That is why I never went back to the casinos until I knew I had figured everything out. One very difficult lesson is “self control.” You must master that one first. You must deal with greed and unrealistic expectations. You must grasp real odds. You must become aware of the characteristics of randomness in a way that you can relate to it and identify it at all times. You must discard your excitement at winning. You must develop a real strategy to function inside of a realistic bankroll. You can’t control the future or have a magic formula that always works for you. Things only work at times. Other times they don’t work. You must be able to survive the times that don’t work like you would like them to work. You can’t wish things will work and expect that to help at all. It won’t. I have shown you the path. It starts in a pathetic hot and humid rain forest and reaches all the way to the top of Mt Everest. You can climb this mountain if you set your mind to it and figure it all out. Or, you can get an unskilled at gambling therapist or psychologist to tell you that you must accept defeat. And you get to pay for that too. No matter what though. You can stop wasting your income right now. Whatever path you take, you don’t need to waste money that is needed elsewhere. Figuring both ways out costs nothing. I figured it all out, on my own, before ever going back into the casinos. I did it by learning how to program computers and man made simulators before that. If you want to really feel good about this then earn it. Take the hard way. There is a reward at the end.
     
  7. Gigi666

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    For what I say is worth to anybody here, I think gizmotron is one of very few here that share what they have found is working for them in full(although all in one place without troll interruptions would be great), no stupid riddles or half arsed solutions, teasers. As I mentioned before even if you lay down all rules of a working method with mm etc. only a handful will use it/learn it, which is bizarre, but I guess method might not suite some people as it is little bit subjective since you need specific skills here, rather than follow a mechanical method. I feel most gamblers search for holy grail sometimes for the sake of searching or some are here just to troll.
     
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  8. CarloDarlo

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    You know what gets me. Rather then try to finesse people out of there hard earn cash.... during a pandemic... if it works so well just spill the beans in a concise format for all to see and test themselves.

    Instead it's a bunch of riddle me this and riddle me that. If what you got is something you want to share just come forthcoming or instead keep just being cryptic and hope someone bites..
     
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  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This unfortunately is from a person that has clearly assumed that I didn't do what he suggested, and for free as well.

    But it is a coincidence. I was only going to charge enough to pay for the hosting costs of around $300 or so per year. If I were to get 20 people then they would only need to pay $15. But I have another, better, idea that will take me a few months to put together. Back in 2006 to 2008 I created my own version of the internet and created the cross platform browsers to deliver unique files with it. I could make those browsers, Mac & Windows, available here with the completed works of the Reading Randomness thread minus all the distractions. This browser includes hyper links out of it that would load the YouTube videos I already created also.

    So to view this form of the Reading Randomness thread you would need to load a version of my MTML browser and then load the single file on Reading Randomness. All this would be free. You could use it to search for specific concepts and the browser would gather all the pages contextually and instantly. You could take personal notes on each page that will be stored in your own unique file. You can even take audio notes for each page. You can create your own linkage and gathering system based on words or phrases that you find important to remember. All this can happen once you have the file on your own computer while you are off line. You can personalize the file by improving it. You can highlight text and it will keep in highlighted if you save it. You can add to the file if later materiel is interesting to you by adding pages through the import function. You can add other people's pages directly from the internet if they format the additional file for the internet. People can share a collective construct of search phrases in order to share data and have it all retrieved exactly as desired by the originator that tagged it.

    I could show off what a brilliant programmer I am and dazzle you with an interesting and unique version of the internet based on the concept of the Human Markup Language as discussed by the inventors of the internet.

    You could find fault with that I hope, in keeping with your perception on what is what.

    Thanks for your input.

    I think I will do it in Intuition 1.6; created back in 2008. Still it's a case of just openly sharing it without the distractions, my over all goal.
     
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  10. CarloDarlo

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    O lord... So I guess that would be a no on simple and concise and a yes on riddle me this??
     
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  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's already here for free. What more do you want?

    All you have to do is ignore the skeptics and the trolls.
     
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    I'll be honest before I figured out my own way for Bacc. I was looking into "reading Random" had your program and everything. But there is not a single place where you outline concisely what it is you do....

    I've looked. All that we got is you look for "Trends" or "Patterns" to continue based on a ton of EC angles. Like slicing the wheel up and R/B, E/O.

    But if something goes B,B,B,B, R , B,B,B,B, R (You start here). All the previous pattern of 4 black and 1 red is just that.... The past. You can start right after Red and bet black and lose.... You wait for another pattern and do the same thing over and over until your bankroll is rinsed.

    The MM Plan you have 3w and 7l doesn't make any sense. Why would you cap your wins and losses if you have the ability to predict and win in the game?

    Why not continue to win?

    Anyway I wish you the best but going in circles is a waste of time. You have over +1000 posts across 10 different forums being cryptic across the majority of those.

    When a critic shows up you go on massive tangents and deflection tirades... Anywho hopefully your actually "winning" would hate for someone to have wasted that amount of time being a troll for +10 years.
     
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  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Going down in circles might be more appropriate. The RR thread is an experiment to see if people can self teach.

    There is a basic rule in flight instruction. If the student pilot can't get it in between 8 hours to 16 hours of flight instruction then you drop them.

    The Reading Randomness thread is fly on your own. Get it, don't get it. You were never meant to be a pilot.

    BTW, there are public discussions on the fact that this is a self taught method of sharing. Even people that struggled with it after trying have admitted as much.

    Good Luck.
     
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    You yourselves have admitted to losing tons of money for "years" trying to learn it. So does that mean you didn't pass your own "Flight Instruction" test. But again constant riddles and "experiments" I'm good.

    Have fun!
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Fun is letting you know that you are just making a defensive reaction to your own consequences. Own your own issues my friend. If you actually recall what I said you will see that someone here shared a link to a video. The results of that combined with a few other things caused me to deal with my own failings and I resolved why I was risking my bankrolls unnecessarily. I went from attempting counter productive tactics to self imposed rigid conformity. You managed to see this and reject it with a few choice words of projecting why you rejected it. If you would just listen to yourself you might see that you have answered yourself. I think this is like a reference to you acting sort of like a "full cup." You may have just chimed in to see what you want to see. I don't care much what your motivation is. Anyone that gives up as easy as you might want to forget about gambling altogether.

    Everything you need is in the RR thread. Perhaps if it looks like a riddle to you and is nothing more than hints dropped here and there and never ending clues that leads to nothing then maybe I have already shared it perfectly. My goal is to attempt to make sure that when math oriented people that talk big about gambling and what is what is to make sure that they get this last and when it is too late. It's my method. I cobbled together the syntax and the construct of relating to significantly improved skills in following the trends and patterns. It's only natural that some people will not be able to see it. The funny part is how much is explained and clearly demonstrated where you yourself have admitted to getting my practice software and decided that some how I have abused you in some machiavellian way. Don't you think that you might want to move on and discover if someone somewhere else has really openly shared a secret to gambling? The world does not owe you lessons. So thanks for trying. Have fun in your search.
     
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    Nobody in there right mind takes some random guy on the internet who has been babbling about reading random at face value. Especially when said person never brings anything to the table.

    You use Math in everything you do its all around you. To cast it aside because of some fallacious belief you can read a bunch of independent events and from them can deduct the future is NUTS.

    I'm not going to response anymore because that would be the Definition of Insanity. People much smarter then me have ripped holes into your logic and your system for the past 10 years.

    " I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it"
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I can deduct the present conditions. That's all that I need.

    You can't see that what you are overlooking is the math surrounding "Variable Change." One day you will admit it.

    Just because you have blinders on now does not mean that you are right. It's just means that you have put all the things together that you think are the truthful facts and made a logical step that can only conclude that you are right. That's all that the "mathBoyz," the "mathNazis," or the "mathZombies" ever do.

    Really? Name one. Math oriented "frequentists" have stated their opinions. These type of people refuse to consider "conditional probabilities of events." They are conditioned to absolutism and have been arguing with each other for hundreds of years on the topic. Between you and me there is only one thing. Reading Randomness takes advantage of variable change. I can see it and you can't. But that is meaningless anyway because you get your point of view from those that favor "absolutism" where as I get mine form "the deductive logic of probability theory." You don't have to be a mathematician to use it.

    But it's best that you go away because you don't look like you are actually suited for gambling.
     
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    Reading Randomness is a Lesson of reality at the Roulette table.

    This topic is a " must read " ..


    ND

    Play at your own risk.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Reading Randomness is just a methodology to exploit coincidence. You are given a technique and tools to identify win streaks and losing streaks. You then take a very old proverb of old experienced gamblers and apply it. It very simple. "You bet big when you are doing good and you bet small during any other conditions."

    It's the same tactic for card counters. You bet big when the count is in your favor and you bet small when it is not.

    So With RR you become skilled at detecting win streaks. It's about watching multiple streams of conditions based on multi faceted groupings. Five groupings can be in a losing streak or a break even streak but a sixth group can be in a win streak. This is more common than not. So win streak detection is the skill to learn.

    You can play it the hard way and wait and wait for a coin flip to go into a win streak. But RR is a way to watch from 6 to 8 streams of data all at once.

    That is Reading Randomness in a nutshell.
     
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    What a load of absolute shit!
     
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