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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mark ,

    You are eligible for a Personal Forum .
     
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  2. John Blerg

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    please stay. i read this whole post all day and you are so knowledgeable we all appreciate your extreme efforts.

    my question is, why did you keep saying your last post and you are done. you said that many times here and even in other posts. why?

    reminds me of 4 year olds when parents take toys away or something like that.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't need it. This thread is the culmination of all the work and a test to see if showing but not holding one's hand is enough.
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Keep this thread going as long as you can and are able to .


    Health and success in the NEW YEAR.


    ND
     
  5. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    please sir start one, exciting!
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I put all the information out there. I don't attempt to do one on one instructions in this thread. I don't need to stay. I thought the work was complete when that last guy started to test it. Everything is here. A person learning this gains a skill that ends up teaching them more than any other thing that can be taught by me. I provided the practice software and the recommended strategy. Just do the work and you will get it.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    How about a course on making fun of idiot players that you run into at casinos that try to tell you how to win? Let's just see if the this thread is really enough.
     

  8. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    i have two questions

    why did you leave and come back so many times?

    and what do i bet after 3 repeaters and 4 reds in a row or within 13 spins?
     
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  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    For years all I did was tell this method with cryptic remarks and hints. JunketKing, here, had said something that made perfect sense to me. I could share and answer all the questions and it would not kill the opportunity. I was convinced that this was true. So I started this thread back in July and decided to answer all questions. About two years ago someone else here posted a video about playing the stock market like a casino. That was when I came back to even chance bets. I also developed a similar strategy for "moving averages." I found the self control mechanism that I was lacking. So I made it into a method and extensively taught one student privately. I spent over 120 hours online teaching this one student and perfecting the practice software. Then a year went by. I decided to write this thread to see if I could just share the idea without one on one tutoring. So this thread is an experiment also.

    Your question about when you are supposed to bet on a trend is without foundation or context. Just asking it implies that you might already have your own conclusion. Read from the beginning and ask your question of yourself, because then you will be able to answer it yourself. I don't care if you learn this. I did it this way so that anyone can learn it without a teacher. I'm done teaching. I teach how to beat a casino while losing the expected bet selections that math says you must lose. It's simple logic for people that are open minded enough to apply simple logic. But if their heads are already full of different notions or interests then they will not be able to learn. This is the way life works. I created reading randomness so that trends would have a syntactical reference in association with synchronous effectiveness. Those are big words, but so is the idea. It's easier to program people than it is to program a computer to think like a human.
     
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  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Mass desertions from RFcc and Bet Sel ? Why the sudden influx of the usual suspects from there ?


    Could it be lack of free daily system to vulture on ?


    They don`t understand that there are no system factories here on Gambling Forums .



    Best to take cover .
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron ,

    Keep your Read Randomness thread alive----------The Math Nazis are on the march .their claws are all over the forum .
     
  12. thereddiamanthe

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    "My edge is a large enough number of people doing this and producing win to loss results that are demonstrably beyond the possibility of inaccuracy."

    The thing here is to [exactly] determine what type of win to loss ..?

    Is this that famous redline that anynynyonesir likes to post?
    Or some other type, like ratio

    Typetype
     
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    Oh John Blerg when are you and Turbo Genius gonna team up take down the atlantic city gaming houses?
     
  16. Kairomancer

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    Identifying the trends are the easy part. I can easily recognize at least 6 different patterns or more.
    Sometimes they are quite strong and happening at multiple data streams simultaneously.
    The problem is when you decide to pick one and it happens to be a finishing one. Sometimes you have to take 2 tries until it is gone, yet the other streams are doing just fine, so you try those as well and you are keep loosing again.
    You realize bad luck hit you, so you keep waiting with virtual bets. When you are going strong with the virtual bets in a positive trend you decide to try again and you lose your 7 units after a long grind.
    It happens just enough to keep you in a long grind and eventually eating up your previous 3-win-cycles.
    These negative streaks could last for months in a downward cycle, in some cases you spend 100s of hours going nowhere.
    Of course on the flip side you can be lucky as well and collect all the wins for months, just like with other systems.
    100, or even 200 sessions I only consider short term, because only real bets placed what really matters.
    When you add up the collective results of 1000s of players doing this it would eventually result in a loss.
    Every structure are unstable. All system fail under certain conditions.
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    You don't know that. I have been playing with win streaks for decades. This is known by me. I can't give anyone my experience I can only help them gain their own. It takes from three to ten hours of live play to get a monster sized trend or the occasional global effect that can take ten visits or more. The secret to all this is in the micro trends that only get you one win per try. I win my sessions by just trying to get a single win at a time. I do it from patterns in the small changes. I get this from sections that appear to be nothing. The absence of clearly working trends produces a rhythm to their duration. I sink up on the existence of that rhythm. I get sessions with the same results that you do. I just don't bet after losses. One loss means that the try didn't work. You get a few of those back to back and you quit before you get seven losses. You just have to know that losing streaks happen. You must get off of them. Three losses in a row from three separate tries is enough to quit that session. You must get a sense for when bad sessions are starting. You don't need to dig your way out from 6 losses down.

    But you have identified the trouble spot. To many seven step losses does you in. So maybe you can figure out a way the mitigate that and to chip away at more wins. I will use this information if I run the last school.
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Excellent! Nobody wants it. I don't have to go all the way and prove it.
     
  19. Kairomancer

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    Proving it to yourself is more than enough you can hope for.

    I may make a second run here and post the results as I had some fun playing it. Jono1167's results was impressive, maybe I can have those lucky runs as well. This time I will double up my base bet after a lost session and cap it at 8 units max.
    I try to avoid losing and hopeless sessions as much as possible. I want to have an easy time and having fun.
     
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  20. gizmotron

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    Just a few more tips here in the original thread is good enough.

    1. So stop any session when you get three losses in a row. That includes three virtual bet selections. You can wait for 30 minutes to three days. Stopping is your weapon against the bad streak. It's the only weapon.

    2. Stop real bets on each lost bet unless it is from singles on the weak side. But stop real bets on the second lost bet as that is an indicator that singles on the weak side are probably ending.

    3. Perfect patterns will stop at some point. Give up on any pattern if it indicates that it has ended.

    4. Watch your w / L list. It shows you just how difficult a session is currently going. You don't want big bets going down when the results are going sideways more than upward.

    5. You will see more short strike single wins than you will see two's and three's as wins in a row.

    6. The 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, until you get back to 1 net win from this progression style is the best. That means you are using a doubled sized bankroll to get to three net wins at value 1.

    a. So if I needed $300 at $100 bets then I would bet $100 on the first try and $200 on all next tries until I reached back to $100+ for that segment of the steps in the attempt to get to three net wins at $100.

    You don't have to stop at three net wins. But you do if you want to get to a 4.66 to 1 win to loss ratio. That's three net wins to a seven net loss session. This is done by virtual betting or minimal betting after you have achieved your goal of three net wins at you big bet size.

    Here is what is happening in reality. Big wins don't come in packages that are sized in three. I told people that I use to drop down deep in losses in order to get to that killer win streak that usually occurs at least once in a 10 hour session. I played like this for more than 12 years. I'm an expert at finding and attacking the super win streak. But this self control rule is the rule that saved me from getting killed off by my own greed. The super win streak hooks you into wanting more. So I play now with the same protection rules betting minimum sized bets until the big hot streak starts. When it does I massacre the win streak with bigger and bigger bets. I didn't teach this technique in this thread, but I may have mentioned it.

    Self control is the only way to protect your bankroll and your winnings. It's much better to play scared than to give up a session because you got lazy. If you could put yourself on El Capitan as a rock climber you would have no difficulty keeping your concentration. If you do gamble for ten hours on a day then don't gamble for at last one to two days just to let your mind rest. I can go back to back days with my skilled mind if I keep sessions to three hours and one session per day. And I know all my bet selections and placements instantly and without recognition difficulties whatsoever. You get fatigued using trend and patterns to identify win streaks. It gets easier as you gain real B&M experience and use index cards as charts. A slower busy table is the best method for this. It takes longer but you get good at filling in charts after the losses have been wiped away, always watching for the dealer that tries to rake a winning bet. They do it all the time so guard your winning bets. After they have it there to be paid you can fill in the next line on your index card. You can start to make your next bet selection while they are doing all the payouts. Also make sure that you got paid the correct amount. Sometimes they like to pay you off in $1 values when you might be using $5 chips or even higher values. Dealers often make mistakes. You must know what you are owed on a win. As soon as the dealer pulls the marker puck you can go ahead with your already selected bets. This real live play stuff is all about not getting lost and behind in your timing. It's as important as breathing is.
     
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