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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Active Member

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    Means that anyone is acknowledged as "capo" by the founding membbers.
    The line that guru preserved & carried on into the new generation..
     
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  2. Nathan Detroit

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    Taking a glimpse on the scoreboard at a roulette table makes sense and is vey much encouraged as p being part of the game .


    Reading randomness is not a system but a helpful tool when making a bet selection .



    But some wise guys apparently got that wisdom of bet selection the day they were born.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    Reading randomness is preserving ones sanity not to worry about 10 k sins of hot or cold numbers .
     
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  4. Pedro

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    I did it. I read the whole thing. Except for the parts that don't matter. This is a fascinating idea and I will try to exploit it. Now I'm going to watch the videos.
     
  5. gizmotron

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    There's free software to help you practice too. You will find it in the software section. I recommend the 1.4 version.
     
  6. Pedro

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    I downloaded it too. 007 software?
     
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    I hope you are doing well Gizmotron.
     

  8. Naughty but nice

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    Hi Pedro.
    In the red black column and only this column; something don't happen to often.
    Giz, might enlighten you as he's seen it in a topic called brain-dead.
    The only problem is how you play the R/B. Those visual bets are worth observing
     
  9. Naughty but nice

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    Ped; look at the stream of R/B. A marty would not lose. Reason; that something is not happening enough.
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  10. Pedro

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    I am playing crypto dice with faucet money using this logic. Started with 0.005 and managed to get to 0.5 in one day. 100x. Its not luck. I did lose it because of impatiance and greed though. I was palying with bet size of 10% of the bankroll, based on the notion of the 7 net losses - that is too much. That was before I finished reading all the thread, latter on Gizmotron said he is playing with 1/30 of the bankroll, no stoploss. I am betting 2,5% of the bankroll now (1/40), started again with 0.005 yesterday and already have 0.0145. Thats more than 40 net wins, more or less, almost 3x the initial capital. Might have lost it if I was using 10% though, not sure, have not kept track. Anyway. Just flatbetting and following microtrends. Taking one net win at a time. Virtual betting when I get the net win, waiting fot the next opportunity, or when I lose 1, 2 or 3 in a row, depending on the conditions. Sometimes I lose control and go chasing the losses, that is bad and I am trying to not do that anymore. Had to do a 3 step parlay to recover once. But that is the impatience talking. You can get back just flat betting. Patience is the key, there is always a new streak. But it is also bad to chase win streaks, its better to stick 1 to 3 net wins at a time, depending on how much you need to get to 1 net win and the behaviour of the rolls. Most trends are micro so if you always chase the big ones its almost as if the small losses from the micros that don't go on cancel the big win when it does. Its fun though. It's encouraging that it is a skill. Means I'll get better. Also fun that it challenges the established dogmas of math. Mainstream academia is out of touch with reality anyway. I'll just add math to the other "sciences" that I know are full holes. I'm looking at you, paleontology. Don't get me started on virology.
     
  11. Pedro

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    It will not change the world though. People will die and kill before they admit they are wrong. Nothing ever changes. Witch is great, means those who can undertand reading randomness will always have an edge.
     
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    HTML:
    W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP
    nb| X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  01  --  33
    nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  02  --  09
    nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  03  --  34
    nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  04  --  07
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    nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  10  --  23
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  11  --  29 ( $ 90 ) Black
    X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  12  --  26 ( $ 175 ) Not Primes
    X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  13  --  20 ( $ 265 ) Black
    look at this. 1st strike: perfect chop on black. 2nd strike: not primes was striking at least twice, so I went for the second. My favorite was the 3rd: perfect simetry for 9 spins, hitting black on the 13rd spin just as it did on the 5th. Yeah. Thats just luck and coincidence alright.
     
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       | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  11  --  11 ( $ -95 ) Not Specials
    X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  12  --  26 ( $ -5 ) Black
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  13  --  29 ( $ 85 ) Black
    X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  14  --  01 ( $ 175 ) Odd
    X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  15  --  01 ( $ 265 ) Odd
    of course its not an exact science. Or is it? I started making the mistake of trying a trend that was old already, the chop on specials/ not specials. Recovered with two hits on black based on symetry and overal dominance. Same for odd.
     
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     X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  11  --  19 ( $ 85 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  12  --  04 ( $ 170 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  13  --  28 ( $ 255 ) Not Specials
    
    It's not always this easy. But when its not, you can just not play.
     

  15. Pedro

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       |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  11  --  30 ( $ -90 ) Low
    X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  12  --  21 ( $ -5 ) Not Primes
    X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  13  --  22 ( $ 85 ) Even
    X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  14  --  12 ( $ 175 ) Even
    X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  15  --  14 ( $ 265 ) Even
    Not sure why I bet on low at the start. Oh yeah! Hoping for symetry. No need to panic. Not primes was repeating at least twice so I went for it. And then Even just kept going and so did I.
     
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      | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  11  --  08 ( $ -90 ) Primes
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  12  --  04 ( $ 0 ) Primes
      | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  13  --  22 ( $ -95 ) Not Specials
      | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  14  --  20 ( $ -190 ) Not Specials
    X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  15  --  27 ( $ -105 ) Not Specials
      | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  16  --  24 ( $ -200 ) Not Primes
    X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  17  --  21 ( $ -115 ) Not Primes
    X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  18  --  30 ( $ -30 ) Not Primes
    |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  19  --  25 ( $ -125 ) Not Specials
      | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  20  --  20 ( $ -220 ) Not Specials
      |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  21  --  37 ( $ -310 ) Odd
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  22  --  29 ( $ -220 ) Odd
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  23  --  04 ( $ -130 ) Even
    X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  24  --  05 ( $ -40 ) Odd
    X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  25  --  02 ( $ 50 ) Even
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  26  --  29 ( $ 140 ) Black
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  27  --  29 ( $ 230 ) Black
    Just so you don't say I'm only showing the easy ones. I'm doing those as I post them. Primes was supposed to do a chop and failed me on the first attempt, so I tried again and voila; not specials was supposed to repeat more then once, but randomness is supreme. I should have stoped on the fist try but since I got the win on the second try before, I went for it again diggin a hole until the third attempt, breaking my own rules. Thats my problem, chasing losses. Impatience and overconfidence. But hey, it worked. But I abandon that "pattern" for the nice "x--x--x" pattern on primes. First time loss, but tried twice again and got close to breaking even. I see the potencial for not specials doing "xx--xx--" but that was just my imagination - on hindsight, it was too soon to try that. So I go to the other side and try odds hoping the chop will continue. Oh those damn zeros! The HE got me now! Lets keep trying to see how far this chop goes. I got 3 wins from it and then decide to try symetry on black to finish the session.
     
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    X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  11  --  30 ( $ 90 ) Even
      | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  12  --  13 ( $ 0 ) Even
    X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  13  --  18 ( $ 90 ) Even
      | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  14  --  02 ( $ 0 ) Odd
    X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  15  --  35 ( $ 90 ) Odd
      |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  16  --  09 ( $ 0 ) Even
      | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  17  --  15 ( $ -90 ) Even
    X-| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  18  --  02 ( $ -90 ) Even
      |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  19  --  19 ( $ -180 ) Even
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  20  --  08 ( $ -90 ) Even
      | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  21  --  02 ( $ -180 ) Odd
    X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  22  --  22 ( $ -90 ) Even
    X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  23  --  11 ( $ 0 ) Odd
      |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  24  --  14 ( $ -90 ) Odd
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  25  --  06 ( $ 0 ) Even
      |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  26  --  09 ( $ -90 ) Even
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  27  --  04 ( $ 0 ) Even
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    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  30  --  04 ( $ -90 ) Even
      |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  31  --  21 ( $ -180 ) Even
    X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  32  --  36 ( $ -90 ) Even
    X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  33  --  20 ( $ 0 ) Even
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  34  --  08 ( $ 90 ) Even
      |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  35  --  21 ( $ 0 ) Even
    X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  36  --  18 ( $ 90 ) Even
    X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  37  --  06 ( $ 180 ) Even
    X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  38  --  24 ( $ 270 ) Even
    This one is more like playing crypto dice. I decided to confine mysolf to odds/evens becouse of singles on the weak side. Tryed odds a couple of times hoping for chop but not much there, so I just stick with even, the dominant one, until I get there.
     
  18. Naughty but nice

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    What's so hard betting every spin on R/B
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    What is not happening to much?
     
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    You said it.
     
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    The idea for 3 net wins or 7 net losses came from a need for a rigid rule to attempt to leave greed out of the strategy. But something that has always stuck with me comes from something Lungyeh told me years ago. His concept of "Dare to win, scared to lose," is backed up by his basic principle of ( 20 times your base value.) So If I bet every spin at one of two prices then I can just keep going to get whatever the session will bare. I like to play from 3 to 4 hours at a time and like the idea of getting whatever you can from it. So losing stretches are attempted at a value of 1. Winning stretches are attempted at 20 for the attacking value. Just wanted to share where RR is going.
     

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