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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I played the evolution wheel got my two units in 12 spins and went back an hour later for another session and it was totally unplayable. I ran two different methods side by side didn't see a single bet in about half an hour. Went to Bovada single zero wheel and guess what, same thing. Nothing for me to bet on. I've talked about this before, why does it do this seemingly all the time. One-wheel was in Detroit the other wheel is in Costa Rica. Does anybody have an explanation besides coincidence. And conversely when one is playing my game the other one usually is to. Both wheels at Bovada usually are, the single and double zero. Very strange.
     
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    Probably not The answer, but there is certainly food for thought in this little documentary on synchronicity.



     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Seeing synchronicity in several different isolated random generating machines like Roulette wheel results is nothing more than confirmation bias. It's just noticing it because it's the same phenomenon at the same time. These synchronizations happen all the time because the synchronized characteristics happen more often independently. That's a good thing. I like the more common characteristics. Singles on the weak side is very common in EC's. It's just one characteristic making a good example. But if you are looking you can notice times when by coincidence alone it can happen on several independent Roulette wheels at the same time. This ability to notice it is like harmonic in a way. It's not magic. I labeled these things the global effect. It can occur in my playing charts between my groupings too. It can be simultaneous or linear in nature, back to back in different locations. It's because the human brain is still better at seeing patterns that it was not looking for in the first place than any AI computer. The cause is randomness. Randomness is coincidental and without a permanent form, even if chaos is the most likely feature.
     
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    Yes agree, it’s like walking through the casinoverse and all the same things are happening at the same time on different roulette wheels standing out like dogs balls. Can’t miss it. It’s that obvious you just make an extra unit just for walking past. True harvest, manor from heaven. Then it’s gone, until it happens next time. Cheers
     
  5. gizmotron

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    The most wonderful thing in gambling is the Elegant Pattern. Perhaps that's a bad label. But when I decided to call it that there was nobody saying that the repeating perfect pattern is the bag of gold nuggets of the gambling world. It is by definition the longer than normal perfect repeating pattern. Having a single dozen or column sleep for more than 30 spins in a row happens. You have to be a lame brain, if you see it occurring, and not exploit it. I've seen the same dozen numbers hit in a perfect repeating pattern before . It went on for about 45 minutes.

    I did exploit it and this thread is the result of that first eye opening experience.
     
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  6. SPIKE

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    People do not see it because they aren't looking for it. I watched a guy win eight times in a row because the second dozen was sleeping and he just happened to be betting on the 1st and 3rd. I pointed this out to him that he was winning because one of the dozens was sleeping and he looked at me like I'd lost my freaking mind. So of course when the second dozen was done sleeping he kept betting the first and third and lost everything. Chumps can't be wised up, it's a complete waste of time to try.
     
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  7. SPIKE

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    99.99% of people couldn't notice it if they tried. I can usually tell the difference between outcomes produced by an RNG and a real wheel. They just don't play the same, the RNG is way too random. I can beat them sometimes but usually they're way too erratic. For instance on a real wheel the 0 can sleep for 300 spins on a single zero wheel. On an RNG they appear regular as rain because it's not true random.
     

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    Dog balls. :eek: Hilarious.
     
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  9. SPIKE

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    It is funny because when you think about it balls on a dog really do stand out. LOL
     
  10. gizmotron

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    OK, been screwing around with goofy ideas at R-sim. Spike, would Bovada let me bet on a single number at a time on the live tables and double down after each 18 bets, no matter if I change numbers or not?
     
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    I don't know why they wouldn't, if you can do it on a brick-and-mortar wheel you can do it on a live online wheel. You can basically do anything you want if you can get it done in 40 seconds. On the evolution wheel I only have 20 seconds.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What's the minimum bet on a single number on the inside?
     
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    A better question would be what's the longest stretch for selecting the hottest number before any win? You can jump around and switch to a best performing number. I can write a new sim to test all this.
     
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    I thinks it's $5 minimum total bet on the inside.

    Here is the trick. I want to play using the make the same bet selection trick on each spin. I also want to take $4 of the total $5 and put it on 4 different double streets. Those 4 are the same thing as a 24 number bet, or double dozens. But I don't want to bother thinking about or changing my locations. At the end of maybe 100 spins those 4 doubles streets should only be down about two to four losses. Like from 8 to 16 total $1 losses. Meanwhile I will keep doubling down on the search for the hottest number. This will allow me to start a Marti progression at each 18 spin interval until I hit the winner. My goal is to make at least $18 for each session. I won't use a chart. Won't need one. There is no way that I would get out to 100 spins before hitting. I know this. The hottest numbers hit typically in much smaller intervals. It's just a matter of finding the right number at the right time.

    It would be a test to see if they cheat. The $4 on streets would basically balance itself out. I could watch for trends and play those hunting for sleeping dozens so that would be easy without a chart. Then the single number could just keep rising every 18 spins without a hit. In the end I should get around $18 for each session on average. Maybe a little more. It looks like a test to see if it would work.
     

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    Minimum bet on a straight-up number is $1. Streets are $1 minimum. Even chances and columns $5 minimum. On the dozens you can get around that by betting on the streets instead. That way you can bet two dozens at once for $4. Or one dozen for $2.
     
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    Minimum on the inside is $1. Once in awhile I'll bet two dozens at once and it cost me $4. Rather than $10.
     
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    Running tests now. This will drive the system guys nuts.

    With $1 as the inside minimum bet I have a $3,000 bankroll. If I double down for each 18 spins then I could go with out a hit for a long ways.

    Thanks. This is worth fooling around with just to tweak the system guys. Imagine being happy with around $20 won per session played?
     
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    It could be a test to see if Bovada would throw me out too.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    They do not cheat. Over 60 casinos gets their live dealer feed so it would be impossible to cheat. They get all their money by selling their services to the casinos. They would have absolutely no reason to cheat because they don't make any payouts, they don't care what the outcomes are. Their whole business is selling their services. The casinos themselves make the payouts. If you read the running chat there are always players on every spin who think they're cheating but they are just poor losers. Companies like Visionary iGaming and Evolution have been around for 15 years and have rock-solid reputations for playing fair and honest games. They would have absolutely no reason to cheat. Even their Auto roulette game is not cheating. It uses an algorithm and works like a slot machine, they just don't tell you that. They don't tell you that in a brick-and-mortar casino. Stay away from Auto Roulette, You cannot beat it. At evolution I play around with it sometimes because the minimum bet is only $0.10 and I can never beat it.
     
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