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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I remember why I don't bet all three even chances at once. It can be really good and it can also be really volatile. You can lose 6 or 9 units really fast. I played Evolution tonight got my one unit and got out it's still acting weird. But playing at home who cares. I didn't have to get in my car and waste time and gas driving to the casino and walking all the way inside just to win one unit and drive all the way home. The casino environment takes away about 20% of your ability to concentrate. There is always so much going on I don't care how hard you try to tune it out you never can completely. There is always something to break the concentration. And at home there's nothing, complete silence and nothing moving that draws my attention. At this point I don't even know if I could play in a brick-and-mortar casino again. Haven't been to one since early 2020 when they closed my casino because of covid for 8 months.
     
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  2. gizmotron

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    I went once in the past two years. With a $400 overhead to recover for the trip I opened in four independent sessions all with it in the condition of a losing streak. So I broke close to even for my methods and lost the $400 for the overhead. Soon I will have about $25 for overhead, next year, after this Covid-19 starts to wind down more. So for now I will give Bovada a test at one single net win at $10 per session and two sessions per day for 20 days a month. That's a $400 in winnings test. Should be interesting as I plan on winning every session.
     
  3. SPIKE

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    Years ago I never said much in the way of details because I didn't understand that very few people are going to take the time to learn how to do this. It's way too complicated, it takes too long, and it's very tedious to play. But it works. Everybody wants a system where you can walk up to a roulette table half-drunk have a bet selection that is so solid that you can bet every spin and walk away with thousands of dollars every time. That system resides in Fantasyland. There will never be such a system. Winning will always be tedious and exacting and consist of very few wins at any given time. Because most roulette players are also degenerate gamblers this style of play will never appeal to them. And because they are inherently lazy they will never take the time to learn do it anyway. So I talk a lot more about roulette than I used to because I'm not worried.
     
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  4. SPIKE

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    And when it ends something else often begins. For instance, when something sleeps for a while like 12 or 15 spins or more, quite often one of two things happens. It starts to streak or it goes into a long chop. A long chop is just as good is a sleeper. Sometimes when a sleeper ends it just goes into chaos but that doesn't seem to happen as often.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It was Johno. He said nobody would try it. I think he still thinks it's worthless, but I went ahead and shared this after spending a very long time taking one person step by step though it. It's amazing. I would say that maybe ten to twenty people are doing this if that. I think this may never get to be known way to play. Because of that I pretty much don't add to it. It's done, it's out there, and it's crickets. Amazing.
     
  6. SPIKE

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    I keep repeating this because it's true. It doesn't fit into the average gamblers attitude towards gambling. People gamble because they want something for nothing, plain and simple. They want something for the least work possible. They do not want it to feel like a job, they want it to be fun and they want to win a lot of money doing it with a system. Not a complicated system, a fun system that's easy to learn and easy to do in the casino. There is no such thing but that doesn't stop them from looking. One of the biggest problems card counting teams have is to get team members who are great card counters who potentially can win a lot of money for the team. But quite often it doesn't go to the team, they go to the craps table with the money they won for the team thinking they will double it or triple and of course they lose it all. Because they are degenerate gamblers.
    The question I get asked constantly is, if you can beat roulette why aren't you rich. That's how their mind works. One has to follow the other. If you've beaten something it has to make you rich. I'm certain this could make someone rich if they're willing to take the time to go to all that work in a brick-and-mortar casino city to do it. You will not do it online because they won't let you. You won't do it in your local casino for the same reason. You would have to live in Vegas or Atlantic City or any city with a lot of casinos. If I had discovered this in my twenties instead of my late 50s I probably would have done it. But I'm too old for that crap now, have no interest in it at all. I make a certain amount of money and I'm satisfied with it. Greed has never been my thing. Greed is a gamblers worst enemy, and it's the one thing most gamblers have in common. If you're not greedy and have patience you can move mountains. Every single gambler I know is greedy. Even my wife. You think she can get up from my slot machine when she just won $300? She'll sit there till it's all gone. One time I was bored so I put $5 into a slot machine and won $2,500. You know how much of that I took home? $2,500, and I never put another dime in another slot machine.
     
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  7. SPIKE

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    Just played at evolution and Bovada, got one unit at each right away. Both were running really long chops and on Evolution it went on for 16 spins. I bet on spin number 6 and then watched it go 10 more times. Why wasn't I betting. I have a monthly goal that is broken down into a daily goal and I already made it so why do I need to bet again. This confuses every person who hears it. It's much like eating the first slice a chocolate cake and being satisfied with it. The whole rest of the cake is sitting right there, why don't I eat it. Because I don't want it or need it, one slice of chocolate cake a day is plenty. If I have a monthly goal and a daily goal why do I need to win more than my daily goal just because I can. This confuses and angers every person I've explained it to. They call me names, they scream at me, that's because they are greedy gamblers. I am not greedy nor am I a gambler. I only place a bet when I think I have a better chance of winning then losing. When I played brick-and-mortar casinos I would never pass up something like this. But that's an entirely different kind of play. You make as much as you can now because you never know if you're going to make anything the next time you come. Online is totally different. Now that it's legal in my state I basically live next door to a casino and can play anytime I feel like it. It's really more like I live inside of a casino I can just walk over to the table anytime I like. 12 different online casinos in my state. And more on the way.
    Michigan is a liberal state, we have a very liberal governor. Since she signed legalized gambling into law the state has brought in millions of dollars. Out west states like California Washington Oregon are hugely liberal. What is taking them so long. Oregon has legalized every drug there is but they won't legalize online gambling? All 6 States that have it are east of the Mississippi. Makes no sense.
     

  8. Nathan Detroit

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    An "OK" for your disciplime when reaching the set win goal .


    ND
     
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    Greed is one of the 7 deadly Sins..
     
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  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Fortuna is a fickle Godes . She soon asks back what she has given .
     
  11. SPIKE

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    This thing that you call Global Effect drives me nuts. Just tonight the evolution wheel is unplayable. So I go to Bovada single 0, unplayable. Bovada double 0, unplayable. I come back 2 hours later they are all still unplayable. They are producing almost the same results as far as clusters go. It's really quite amazing and it is definitely a real thing. Makes me wonder how many other things are going on that we don't know about that effect how we play. I can't really complain because if I couldn't see this I would be losing my ass making bets that have no chance of winning. A lot of days it's like taking candy from a baby on all three wheels. How many casino players wish they knew when not to bet.
     
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    Excellent post. As in not dribble imho.
    This is the “undefinable something” that cannot be exactly taught. This is what makes the casinoverse just that much more challenging . As posted previously this is also why systemites and mathtopians cannot reconcile the expertise you and others this forum, have in being able to decide when not to bet as opposed to only always betting. Cheers
     
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  13. SPIKE

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    There will never be a winning method where you can always bet; not with playing random outcomes. They can change on a dime and no strategy will ever be able to cope with every change. You can only wait for the outcomes to be playing your game and hopefully you have a game that encompasses enough outcomes so you can play for a while.
     
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    Like I've said many times. I use to play for the big monster sized super win streaks and would let myself descend deep into my session bankroll waiting for it to happen. The good news is that in a typical ten hour session you would almost always get one if not two super win streaks. That was all during my double dozens period. I now consider that is huge mistake. It's my weakness. I always have to fight off descending. It comes from years of doing it that way. So I keep betting, just at the minimum price the table will allow. But when I viewed that video about stock trading like a casino I jumped back to EC's. It's actually hard to dig super deep into your bankroll at the lowest price with EC's.

    But that leads to what I have always referred to as "chaos." That's my own version of it not playing my game phase. It's flat out nothing anywhere. And it keeps going for a while too. I suppose that a swarm of that all across my charts that keeps going for several hours is the global effect. You can play chaos too, if you think what it is doing consistently keeps going. I was always hunting singles there for a while when I realized that the absence of singles was a useful feature to be exploited. It's the same with chaos too. You know that the outcomes are going to be featureless if it continues. For me it's rare because I have all 6 groupings too search through. But there are times when it's flat out nothing. It's kind of a pain in the butt to try to force chaos to work. I only did that because I was on a road trip and overhead is higher in that method. I was forced to get a win no matter what the conditions where. That's a formula for disaster. It should be an interesting 2022 coming up. If Omicron is bad news, then what's coming in a year or two later? Talk about a global effect. Yikes.
     
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  15. Nathan Detroit

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    Question : Lung Yeh was he real or a pretender ?
     
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    I'm looking into a way to play that because I'm sick of waiting for it to end on every wheel I play.
     
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    He is completely real. And he knows his shit when it comes to gambling and winning. Just look at his Baccarat as a small business thread if you want to know.
     
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    It's hard but it is a condition that continues. Just ask yourself what it would do if it were to continue. For me there is no form to it. It might be single, triple, single, double , quad, double, just totally without form. I look for anything that might be missing and see if that missing thing is consistent. That's a weakness in the structure, or some might say the flow. It might jump all over the place but also never have four in a row of anything. Even better might be anything three in a row is missing. You can use that in EC bets because the form of all that is binary. It's red or its black. True chaos does not have a strong side or a weak side. If that is to continue then that is useful information too. It's hard. But even chaos can't protect itself if it keeps being chaos. Everything that continues can be preyed upon by a skilled player. That's just tough crap for the casino.
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    I thought he was for real and what he claimed to be .I am familiar with his postings and discussions

    with him there.

    John-O was spooked bt L-Y claiming he was Glenda .

    Alrelax could not even remotely concoct a story like that .


    Thanks for your reply . ND
     
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    Alrelax is friggin weird.
     
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