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Roulette Red/Black Pattern Betting

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by David Gregory, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. stephen

    stephen Member

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    Baccarat games have visual boards like roulette, where you can see patterns.
     
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  2. David Gregory

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    Interesting, l'll look into that.
     
  3. David Gregory

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    Give me your email address and we can go from there.
     
  4. nevk

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    Ok.
    nevk76 gmail
     
  5. David Gregory

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    I looked into the possibility of using my strategy playing baccarat and I don't think so. There are 3 different possibilities that can arise: Player wins or loses, banker wins or loses or a tie. My strategy relies on just 2 possibilities, red or black and sometimes a zero. I would have to know how to play baccarat really well if I were to try to develop a strategy for it. I don't know, maybe a tie could be considered a zero. If I ever get completely bored with roulette (and I'm getting close), I may take a peek at baccarat just for the fun of it. I hear that many people prefer Baccarat over roulette. Have you ever tried any betting strategies for baccarat found on the internet? If so, turn me on to a couple of fairly good ones so I can see what the basic approach is.
     
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  6. stephen

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    Tie is not a loser or a winner for both Player and Banker. Tie is a wash for both the bets. All the systems of Roulette can be used for Baccarat, with better results since the house advantage is about 1.15% in Baccarat compared to 2.7% of single zero Roulette.
     
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  7. David Gregory

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    I would imagine that the strategies that can be used for both baccarat and roulette are various betting progressions. But again, I am not sure because I am not familiar with the game of baccarat or any of the strategies applied to it. It sounds to me that you are an avid baccarat player hoping to find a good roulette strategy that could possibly apply to baccarat also. I will look at a few baccarat strategies I find on the internet and see what the basic approach is. Until then I haven't a clue if my strategy could be applied there also. I'll let you know.
     

  8. stephen

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    I play even money bets in baccarat and craps. I prefer them to even money bets in roulette for the lower house advantage in these two games. Even money strategies can be used in all games.
     
  9. David Gregory

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    I went on line and learned to play baccarat, it's actually very simple. I applied my pattern betting strategy and won 70 units. I used the same red/black pattern strategy as I do with roulette. Instead of red/black, I used player/banker which would create patterns that look like P P B P B B. The strategy works basically the same on baccarat except for one important difference; when the strategy calls for betting on Banker and I win, I do not receive full investment back. Even when I win betting Banker, I am losing money. In roulette, both the black and red pay even money. I would not recommend using my strategy for playing baccarat.
     
  10. jbs

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    It pays even money on something that happens LESS THAN HALF THE TIME. In other words....IT'S A STUPID BET!!!! Only an idiot would make stupid bets.
     
  11. David Gregory

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    I guess you're saying everybody is an idiot because everybody who plays casino games makes bets and every bet is stupid. Right?
     
  12. David Gregory

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    I applied my roulette strategy to baccarat and it works in one sense but not in another. It works in the sense that patterns do not repeat but it doesn't work in recouping the loss with the martingale progression when betting on "Banker'. If I am betting the 7th step of the Martingale which would be 64 units on 'Banker" and win, it only returns 60.8 units. Even though I win, I lose 3.2 units. No, my strategy will not work with Baccarat.
     
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  13. Joey Torres

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    Hi David,

    I hope you can also send me your roulette strategy at [removed].

    Will appreciate very much.

    Thanks and best regards,
    Joey
     
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  14. Joey Torres

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    Hello! This thread is very informative.

    Anybody (except David) playing this strategy for real with success.

    I have an idea about the strategy and currently testing it online.

    Cheers
     

  15. Anastasios

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    I found this thread at the time where I am testing exactly the same way of playing.

    To be precise, those days I have been testing random patterns against roulette results

    I started with patterns of five

    What I did:

    I created this sequence:

    BBRRR

    BBRRB

    BBRBB

    BBRBR

    BBBRR

    BBBRB

    BBBBR

    BBBBB

    BRRRR

    BRRRB

    BRRBR

    BRRBB

    RRBBB

    RRBBR

    RRBRR

    RRBRB

    RRRBB

    RRRBR

    RRRRB

    RRRRR

    RBBBB

    RBBBR

    RBBRB

    RBBRR

    I started betting with the first pattern in order the roulette not to create the same pattern with a martingale of 1-2-4-8-16.

    If win, I move to the next pattern.

    So I didn’t bet the same pattern because in this case this pattern would come up some moment.

    Betting different patterns every time, I force the roulette to create every time exactly the same “different pattern”.

    I tested sessions of 500 spins from random.org.

    In every win I won 1 unit and in every lose I lost 32 units.

    Unfortunately it didn’t work

    In 500 spins there were about 230 – 280 wins where I won 230-280 units, but there were 8 – 14 loses where I lost 250 – 450 units.

    So I quit.

    I tried with patterns of 4 because the recovery demands 16 units instead of 32 units of pattern of 5.
    But the loses were much more and I quit again.

    I think the same could be in case of patterns of 7 because you may have much more loses, but in case of a lost pattern you lose 128 units and the recovery is difficult.
    So there is an analogy and it is not so easy to win.

    Nowdays I have been trying another method:

    Instead of betting for many spins in a roulette (online), I do this:

    I decide for a random pattern.

    I choose a roulette and bet this pattern

    When win I go to a different roulette and bet again another pattern

    And so on…..

    I also do another thing:

    I play a pattern and I leave roulette run and after this I bet a pettern again.

    This kind of randomness have so far bring me better results.

    I keep testing, I will inform you about the results.

    David gregory, let's come to your system and examine it mathimatically.
    You play a game that you have 1/128 chances to lose.
    If you start betting, every time the chances ara bigger to lose.
    e.g. when you have polayed 64 spins, the chanses to win/lose (mathematically) is 50% and as you continue the chances to lose get bigger.
    So in two games, theoritically, you will have in one game one lose before the 64th spin and one lose after the 64th spin.
    So, when you pllay a game and after 50 wins you stop, it is a good way of stopping because you play until the chances of win are 60%.
    Mathimatically, in every game the chances to have a lose in the 50th spin are 40%.
    So the ratio of winning and losing games is 3 games win and 2 games lose.
    So i cannot figger out how you have manage to have one lost game in every 2,5 games or better
    The mathematics show \us that you should have i lose in every 1,5 games. Maybe you have created a smart way of patterns which I cannot figure out because it is a loing thread, every time you say many things, and i didn't manage to have your whole system in one post.
    For sure if you'd post from the beginning your compolete system, we could test it and not having so many arguments here.
    Thanks and i'm waiting for your exlenation.
     
  16. David Gregory

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  17. icloudbr

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    David, could you please send me the strategy? I will be very grateful friend.
     
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  18. Naughty but nice

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    Hi David.
    I have a sequence for colour; 12 spins in total. I have seen this sequence lose twice. If you were at the end of the 12 spins and bet the 1st colour of the order, it lost that spin too.
     

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