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Roulette Red/Black Pattern Betting

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by David Gregory, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, so you have a bet selection method that allows for the Martingale to work. That means that it must have more wins than expectation allows for. You could beat a casino with that ability flat betting. I would suggest that you try your method flat betting just to see. You already have all the selection process down cold. My way is something new for you and requires a lot of work on your part. So just trust me in this. Try your method flat betting and see if you can win. It means a much smaller bankroll if you flat bet.

    I'm not giving out my email address to many people. I can PM you and see if you can send it back through a PM. You can put it in a private place like Dropbox and include that address in a PM here. I'll try to PM you now.
     
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  2. David Gregory

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    Rona used the PM to send me her email address, then once I sent her the system she deleted it. That might be easier. this is a MSW document.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No offence but you could be a sock puppet of a person that loves to get personal information. It would not surprise me one bit that Rona is in on it. I actually suspect all this as nothing but a phishing expedition. It's too lame to taught the magnificence of the Martingale Progression with some kind of special bet selection technique. I had fun playing bight at the lure there for a while but I'm not really interested in your magic beans today. You got something really good try to give it to Nathan Detroit.
     
  4. Special Black

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    I am very interested in sharing my system and showing you videos. Unfortunately being Italian I can't translate everything into English but it is possible to find a meeting point. Gregory, I'm very interested in sharing my ideas with yours. Something very strong could come out of it
     
  5. Nathan Detroit

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    Nathan Detroit is not interested at all .




    ND
     
  6. David Gregory

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    Boy, you sure surprised me with that response. I was expecting a come back with something like "I really do not want to give my personal information out, maybe you can copy and paste it in the PM, try that." Which I would have done gladly. But no, you are exactly as I judged you in the beginning, an arrogant ass hole. I would put my system up against any of yours anytime. You have nothing, you have won nothing of any consequence with your ideas. I have never seen a post of yours showing number of games played, total money won, total lost. Win to loss ratio. Yep, Soxfan was right on when he posted; "Actually the David Gregory make some sense where as you just spout self-congratulatory nonsense and esoteric bullshits non-stop, hey hey." That is another's view of you. Did you ever stop to think if more than one person sees you the same way that it could be true? Has anybody ever said you actually make some sense. You have not proved anything to anybody except that you are a master at BS. To bad the casinos don't offer a game called 'Bull Shit' you would excel above all and come out the top winner every time you played.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bullshit. I sent you a PM so you could have done that and now you are the injured party.

    "I would put my system up against any of yours anytime."

    Go ahead then. Mine is published here in the full wide open for free. You publish yours.

    This is really comical. Now you are conjuring up known sock puppets as your defense.

    Poor David Gregory. He can't get no respect.

    I'm done playing with the idiot squad.
     
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  8. David Gregory

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    If it true that your done playing with the idiot squad, then that means you're done playing with yourself. You say:"Your systems are published here in full wide open for free." Free, that's probably exactly what they're worth. Are the results of people actually betting real money using your systems published also? Are people raving about how incredible your systems are? Are they winning extraordinary amounts of money using them? If not, you have nothing like everyone else. Have your systems been tested for the long run? If so, tell me exactly what you consider the long run to be, the rule of thumb for determining that. However, you could ask me all the same questions, and my answer would be, not yet, that remains to be seen. I boast about nothing, I am not trying to sell anything, I have nothing to gain here on this forum. because no one has offered anything of any value. I cannot possibly be seeking any honor and glory for what I have because nothing has been proven yet. Tell me again why you think I joined this forum. I'll tell you exactly why I joined this forum. First of all, I was just interested to find out if anyone else has taken a similar approach as I have. Second of all, I thought I might come across some good ideas, maybe even better than mine. That I didn't find. The only thing I got from this forum is nothing but criticism from most of the self proclaimed experts before they even had a clue about my exact approach to this. When I sent this system to Jack and Rona they both said basically the same thing "This is nothing like I expected." Maybe some day I may be in a position that if you want my system, you'll have to buy it. If it's as worthless as the rest of them including yours, I wouldn't even have the audacity to put it out there for free.
     
  9. David Gregory

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    I just looked up your profile and read that you are on the West Coast RV'ing. That explains every thing, your attitude especially. if you don't agree with me, then you are an idiot. That is the motto of the West Coast. I know this for a fact, I lived in California for over 50 years,
     
  10. mansi19896

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    thanks david, 20000 spins are quite lot, how many units so far you have gathered profit. my mail is adding @gmail.com after my nickname :)
     
  11. John Blerg

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    I played baccarat in the los angeles area, it amusing to watch buying in after buying in by everyone and the amount lost of there cash. what you said applies, they are not wrong even when they lose. LOL. :D the places have alot more than 25 or 35 tables of baccarat, really amazing to watch.
     
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  12. gizmotron

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    Oh, racist against California. That's OK.

    Just to be clear to anyone thinking that David Gregory here actually might have something. Anyone singing the praises of a seven step Martingale progression is just fooling himself or herself. This is common knowledge. The first system most people discover is the Martingale. It's like tic-tac-toe, it's pointless in the long run. It loses more than it wins. The sequence of death is always out there never knowing when it will strike. Everything will come crashing down.

    Twenty thousand spins broken down by 100 spins per session, where 50 units are earned, is fundamentally a lie on its own merit. That's just 200 sessions. This clown is claiming validation after 200 session using the Martingale. He has self proclaimed a 2 to 1 win rate when adding in his losses. So he wins most of the times, just like the illusion that the Martingale gives a newbie player. He is just experiencing a win streak. This happens every few years. Somebody comes on a forum and claims they have the golden ticket and after they get too many losses they disappear having learned their lesson. It's a right of passage. People need to know that there has never been a long run Martingale expert. This guy, and anyone that sucks up the bait are all in for a disappointment. The game of Roulette is not an ATM machine for them.

    Nothing that I can say will convince them though. They know that they are right. The only way this guy could convince me to look any further is to show that his bet selection outperforms an EC game by flat betting only. It should result in the same 2 to 1 ratio if it is real. Only this "IDIOT" does not know that.

    You can get as mad as you want. You can stomp your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue in the face. You are just the noise made by many idiots that have come before you. Everyone thinks the Martingale progression is the Holy Grail at some point. But what they end up learning is that it is nothing more than the holey grail.
     
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  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Geez! this is a sock puppet convention. It's nothing more than fly paper for idiots. It is more than likely one person talking to himself. I wonder who it is?
     
  14. David Gregory

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    You are so freaking predictable. You call my system a losing proposition and yet you have not answered one question I have asked about your system of play. Go back to my post where I stated, if your done playing with the idiot squad, then that means you're done playing with your self. I asked you 4 specific questions about your systems that you dodged again. Everyone on this forum has noticed that you never answer my questions, no, not one. You just shuck and jive and dodge them with nothing but criticism. Here are the questions again. if you do not answer each one specifically then we all know what you really are, a master Bull Shiter, A shuck and jive artist.

    1. Are the results of people actually betting real money using your systems published?
    2. Are people raving about how incredible your systems are?
    3. Are they winning extraordinary amounts of money using them?
    4. Have your systems been tested for the long run? If so, tell us exactly what you consider the long run to be, the rule of thumb that is used to determine what the long run is.

    If you answer any of these questions, give us the proof of how your answers may be verified. If you do not answer these questions, everyone will see for a fact that you do nothing but spout BS and criticism continually. If that's the case, it would be best for you to just shut up and keep your crap to yourself. Like the old saying goes: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    Okay everybody, let's see how he deals with the questions above.
     
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  15. David Gregory

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    5,216 units @ 10.00 per unit = $52,160.00 profit.
     
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    Interesting to read. Į have mainly focused on numbers, trying different numbers with no luck. When someone here said it's a dead end it draw my attention. Maybe there is no other way than Martingale? But I also know it's a dangerous way to play. But maybe, if you have something special it might work?
     
  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So this is supposed to make you smart?

    1.) yes
    2.) yes
    3.) yes
    4.) yes

    The long run for martingale is different than for flat betting. You need 128 wins with your 7 step just to break even. So it takes around 100,000 spins just to get a small percentage round figure of the ballpark value for that progression. For flat betting with wins stops and loss stop points you need 2.33 session wins to balance a single loss. The worst people are getting is 4.66 wins to one single lost session. Won sessions are averaging 10 no bet spins at the beginning and 10 to 40 additional spins to get the win. The more people that publish results will show that those figures get closer to actual hard values.It will take a minimum of 20 people doing more than 100 sessions each to get a close number. A lost session tends to go for 100 total spins. With averages for wins coming in at 30 and lost at 70 you get 16 lost sessions for each 100 sessions and 84 won sessions for those same 100 sessions. So each of those twenty people need around 4,000 spins each to validate results within 10% plus or minus of the hard figures you want now. Each of your testers will need 100,000 spins each to get within that same 10% number for your Martingale.

    I can't make people publish. I actually don't want a stampede here. It's against human nature for anyone to kill off the thing that could change their lives. I'm willing for this to leak out slowly and for those learning it to remain silent. That's good. You being a dickhead is clearly a bonus in all this. I consider it an ancillary benefit. You are stuck all the way back at the beginning with a seven step Martingale. That is funny in every way that can be considered. You are a laughing stock. Don't hide that. Don't be ashamed and defensive in all this. This is your great moment. You don't need to challenge me and what I have accomplished in order to protect your ground breaking idea. Get your own validation. Talk people into finding out first before going to a casino with money. That is my challenge to you. I have made it clear as a bell to totally know the skills first. I have provided the entire world with the tools, the skills, and the tactics. All you have done in this thread is play favorites to anyone that won't call you a dickhead. Great job. You are a chicken shit punk that is too scared to find out if you are an idiot. The problem is that you are an idiot. So discovery is going to come to you with a cost.

    Have a nice day
     
  18. Winner

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    l for one never hear of any raving about him and I have been on these bull shit forums for a long time. who cares.
     
  19. gizmotron

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    Don't forget to kiss his ass or you won't get on the list of hopefuls. You are not going to get liked if you keep this up.
     
  20. mansi19896

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    gizmotron its cool you also found something people win, may i ask where is this post you shared your strategy.
     

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