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Roulette Repost of 1961 video for those who asked for it

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That's a bias wheel for sure, hell it's probably got banana peels stuck in the pockets !!!
    Call Caleb quick - they can start charting 10,000 spins on it - standing around writing down numbers
    and no one will notice or think anything of it. lol
    Oh wait, is that Steve's new twist on the roulette computer ? Hide it in the red bow tie of a monkey
    and no one will know ! (and it's LEGAL in any casino, other than the ones where it isn't).
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

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    what I exactly said & meant is that I am aware of this forum's long-standing dynamic - & evethough, this time at Bago's [no judgement placed] initiative to scent my words into smothething else, & at the same time attempting to add new components into 'our' communication forcing an untrained eye into the new perspective transforming the meaning - that's not what I am interest in at ll, or better I am genuinely interested of what you are saying exclusively in the theme of roulette & what works in ther best, refine it & sharpen it even further


    so let's just render that video comment off & following off.. with knowledge that I stand on my own, with genuine interest in the work of yours, for its definitely worth the attention I am granting to it.


    Furthermore, knowing that you are pasting\posting basics - puzzles [modules] .. if you do not want to talk about that publicly, I am aware why & why not, & that's fine with me.
     
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  3. Bago

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    I did it when I was motivated playing Roulette, but I agree the time and effort put into it is not rewarding. But the problem is you let people believe there is an easy way/system that you can apply when you want, against any conditions and you will win, and for me, it is not more glorious to talk nonsense.
     
  4. jbs

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    Yeah....lose money!! Get real, Turbo and these other fools DO NOT play and win REAL MONEY in casinos.
     
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  5. thereddiamanthe

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    components ..
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm not sure how specific I can be other than what I've posted - and each of my posts lean into the same direction but these are things everyone agrees on (other than the misfits, who can't agree regardless of the logic)
    You have to win at a better rate than the payout, so clearly hot numbers/repeaters.
    How you choose them is best done by what the data is showing as you play, not past spins - the current
    session you specifically are in. So there's many ways to do this - some complicated and some not but the
    common goal is to win better than 1:35 obviously and this can't be done with throwing money away on cold
    numbers and numbers that appear worse than expected.
    So making a soup of a few winning methods is fine, I stick with 1 specific way in the casino. On another
    visit I might use another. I don't mix them up during a session or combine them.

    If something doesn't win flat betting - better than 1:35 then it surely isn't a "HG".

    My longer term results with repeaters lately has been simple - playing a single number.
    Flat betting 1 single number on each spin, having to win better than 1:35 with a expected
    result of 1:38 (double 0 wheel)
    results............................. win ratio
    In 330 spins I won 12 times. 1:27.50
    In 336 spins I won 14 times. 1:24.00
    In 350 spins I won 12 times. 1:29.16
    In 429 spins I won 10 times. 1:42.90
    In 432 spins I won 11 times. 1:39.27
    In 420 spins I won 10 times. 1:42.00
    In 408 spins I won 16 times. 1:25.50
    In 431 spins I won 13 times. 1:33.15
    In 391 spins I won 16 times. 1:24.43
    In 470 spins I won 6 times ! 1:78.33
    In 430 spins I won 14 times. 1:30.71
    In 379 spins I won 11 times. 1:34.45
    In 424 spins I won 12 times. 1:35.33
    In 474 spins I won 9 times ! 1:52.66
    In 411 spins I won 12 times. 1:34.25

    with totals of 6,115 spins I won 178 times. 1:34.35

    So for this one style I can assume with enough data that there are good sessions (16 wins)
    and bad sessions (6 wins) but over 6k spins the average has leveled at 1:34 as compared
    to 1:35 to beat the payout or 1:38 to beat what the math says to expect.
    So there's no millions of spins needed once the average levels out, it won't go in
    extreme swings from here on out. So now I can apply a progression to benefit from
    the results. So playing 200 spins per session, that's 30 1/2 casino visits and no chance
    of losing long term.
    Playing more than 1 number ? It magnifies the results, 3 numbers ? magnifies, etc.

    Wait, I'm rambling on lol.
    Cheers.

    Hot numbers, repeaters, etc...
     
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  7. thereddiamanthe

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  8. Ka2

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    First of all I'm not trolling or anything like that let that be clear. I like your ideas credit where credit is due. But however you go all over the place with your posts and answers. First you said your edge was about 52% (a few threads ago) now it's only 2.65%, this is a normal fluctuation in that sample size. Let me explain by the same example.

    Here is my data, betting 1 number only, using a repeater system: (very simple using your anologies)


    267 spins 8 wins 1:33.4
    362 spins 11 wins 1:32.9
    355 spins 13 wins 1:27.3
    445 spins 13 wins 1:34.2
    597 spins 17 wins 1:35.1
    102 spins 5 wins 1:20.4
    351 spins 14 wins 1:25.1
    512 spins 11 wins 1:46.5
    etc etc etc
    424 25
    416 38
    390 33
    427 53
    394 23
    371 22
    510 46
    405 31
    410 41
    432 54
    418 35
    423 42
    417 83

    This goes on for a while... in the end I played a total of

    11006 spins, I won 322 times 1:34.2 Heck even better than you :)

    We could agree this is a large sample size, I would say so, I would even say with data like this we "think" we have found something.

    A few thousands spins later

    43128 spins I won 1189 times 1:36.3 I lost 324 units in total. So 718 hours later I'm back at square one, If I continued further I would hoover around 1:37.

    Now again, since you dont program your strategies for 100.000's of spins, right? You can ride a strategie for a very long time and "think" you have something, but it's just luck I'm afraid, I wish it was different...
     
  9. Bitrock06

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    Ka2, the problem is we don't know the math behind turbos game plan. Which means we don't play like him. Which means long term we don't get the same results.
     
  10. Ka2

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    No we don't but you do get the point not? 2.65% is no edge, it's only an edge if it holds up forever. I can start a new thread if people want with all the data of the 6 horse race analogy, and the reason why it doesnt hold up, and the "EXACT" reason why the "INTERPRETATION" of the initial premise is false.
     
  11. RickK

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    Ka2...even though I'm a Turbo believer, as most of us on here are (I think), a thread with your comments on the 6 horse race interpretation would probably be welcome, as long as it is presented in a civil manner...and as always, the trash talkers will probably try to derail the thread, but that's the inherent risk on this site...Turbo may even be interested...maybe to the extent that he might convert you to a believer...just saying.....Rick
     
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  12. Bitrock06

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    Agreed Rick. Any work published on the forum that others here can see and work on is welcome.
     

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