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Roulette Repost of 1961 video for those who asked for it

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    My HolyGrail looks better than yours, no stupid progression like yours and almost no drawdowns like yours. Work harder Turbo.

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  2. jekhb1976

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    @TurboGenius
    Maybe a stupid question from my side and you don't have to awnser it on here as i understand.
    But is it also workable on lets say we look at the last 12 spins of the streets.
    Say we have:
    3
    4
    1
    5
    3
    3
    2
    1
    6
    2
    1
    2

    that we bet against it? that the same sequence won't happen in the next 12 spins?
    but how do we profit from such we have the zero also.
    and if we lose we lose 11 units and if we win we only win 1.

    thnx
     
  3. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    My name is not Turbo and i don't want to spit on you but yes, that is very stupid...

    Be aware that this 12 street 's spins look impossible to repeat for you only because you focus on that one, but it has exactly same chance than another one to appear again.
     
  4. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    What are 0-1-2 and 0-2-3 idiot?. I don't blame you, Turbo thought also there were only 12 streets.
     
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  5. Jerome

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    Turbo, if you agree that each spin is independent from the previous spin, how do you come to the conclusion that multiple spins are not independent from past (maybe multiple) spins? You're saying that somehow the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but there's no justification for this at all; taking a succession of disconnected links does not magically create a connection.

    I think it's because you still haven't grasped the difference between a distribution (or pattern) and independence, in spite of my previous post. But what you can't deny is that your bet selections, if they are to make a difference, MUST rely on some kind of dependence between spins. This is because even though you deny using "past spins" in the sense that you don't look at the marquee or record numbers before you start to place bets, subsequent bets ARE informed by what has occurred in the current session. If you're relying on the law of the third (which I don't deny is a "law", by the way, only that there is anything special about it), you will be selecting numbers based on what has hit so that outcomes will conform to the pattern, right?
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Turbo reminds me of Turbo. This time it really works so good that all the other past HG's were just poor also-ran posers.
     
  7. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    ok let's put it this way, we look the streets different for the last 12 outcomes.

    spin 1-12

    36
    3
    17
    28
    21
    17
    2
    34
    8
    27
    33
    1
    now we bet against this sequence of streets, but we have converted them to numbers in that street.

    now you would you like to bet against those 12 spins.
    again this wont happen again in tge next 12 spins.
    the only sequence where i will lose my house as you call it if this will happen:


    spin 01 36
    spin 02 3
    spin 03 17
    spin 04 28
    spin 05 21
    spin 06 17
    spin 07 2
    spin 08 34
    spin 09 8
    spin 10 27
    spin 11 33
    spin 12 1

    spin 13 36
    spin 14 3
    spin 15 17
    spin 16 28
    spin 17 21
    spin 18 17
    spin 19 2
    spin 20 34
    spin 21 8
    spin 22 27
    spin 23 33
    spin 24 1

    so, now we only lose when the same 12 numbers come again back to back in the next 12 spins. don't know about you, but this is just math impossible.

    the only problem here, is the payout. how can we make sure we win, whenever a number comes that isnt in the list amd profit from it after 12 spins. Also impossible i think. that's why i aksed the question.
     

  8. Sharptracker

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    Of course it is possible, and it's not about math, it is about randomness. You just can't know how and when it will manifest...

    You talk as if the ball has a memory, as if it must think "oh damn i cannot do that now because i did the exact same thing there or there.

    It is just because you focus on it that it looks impossible. Write down a 12 list of numbers like 4/16/19/28/4/18/0/15/15/17/5/26 or any else of your choice. Ok now go to the casino and wait it to happen... it won't, because you focus on it, but does it mean it has no chance to produce?
     
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  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    You must have a team of writers helping you with your comedy routine!

    So now we're to believe that each spin is independent, but once you reach two spins it no longer a game of independent trials?

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    I suspect it's time for Jekhb or Turbo to post another graph of 30 spins showing that their Martingale works.
     
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  10. Mako

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    This is very interesting, I had discarded continuing research on patterns or anti-patterns after testing that Pattern Breaker method from John Legend and finding that if you threw enough spins at it, it hit at the expected value and didn't provide any benefit or edge to play. So I DQ'd any methods that relied on betting against an identical pattern appearing again.

    But the way you're looking at it and how TG described it in the original thread, it's a level of accuracy that goes beyond the simplistic approach of previous anti-pattern systems. Much harder for the wheel to replicate in a short span of 37 spins.
     
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  11. Mako

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    This is true, for me though it's a question of how likely is the pattern going to occur.

    I always come back to the example pattern of '37 unique numbers arriving in 37 spins', which is entirely possible...but highly unlikely. Meanwhile something obvious like '14 reds in a row' occurring only SEEMS nearly impossible to an inexperienced player but in actuality occurs at a much higher rate due to a much higher probability.

    For what TG and Eddy are talking about, the only relevant question for me is whether it can it pass the "100 people enter into a casino and play TG's anti-pattern system using their own custom patterns...how many walk out winners, how many lose their BR" test...and if it can pass that, could it pass 1000 people, or 10000 people, before finally having one person bust.

    If you can capture the likelihood and probability of betting against 37 unique numbers in 37 consecutive spins, but in another bet that passes Ken's test of "has to be playable in a B&M casino", like say Eddy's simple "T" pattern bet...you have something that can produce profit for potentially a lifetime without seeing it fail.
     
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  12. Mako

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    For those lurking and not understanding, there were some wrong numbers in Eddy's "T" post, and the forum auto-formatting screwed up the rest.

    These are the examples he meant:

    21-24-27
    23
    22

    9-12-15
    11
    10

    33-36-3
    35
    34

    Just move the lower 2 numbers into the center of the top line to form his "T".
     
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  13. jekhb1976

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    Mako, you are one of the few people on this forum who actualy understand what i'm saying. thumbs up.
     
  14. jekhb1976

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    Thank you for the correction Mako.
     

  15. Sharptracker

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    Mako, you're talking about a lifetime... it doesn't mean anything about the number of spins, right?

    You must know that if the number of spins go into the law of large numbers that the result will tend to what is expected. It doesn't mean at all that the system is winning.

    As anything you could do at roulette(Turbo's system or any other), you'll find a position on the Gauss curve but the big problem is that you cannot choose where you'll be on that curve. And of course only those who are for the moment on the right side will claim...
     
  16. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Dude, I can always count on you for a good laugh !
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    LOL. Thanks.
     
  17. Fossell

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    Didn't you already do this one?
     
  18. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    Turbo, you seem to have a fan club

    Some fan boys who REALLY get off on bashing you day in and day out

    Some serious insecurities from those people showing, lol
     
  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I think so, but I'll explain it better with more details.

    I give them purpose I suppose. They wouldn't have anything else to do with their time lol
     
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  20. RouletteGhost

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    projecting

    lol
     

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