Roulette RNG vs Live spins

Certainly true there. I'm there for a few hundred (tops) spins and gone with my profits.
Damn, if I had to track 100k spins or even 1k spins before playing - I wouldn't even bother.
(past spins mean nothing lol - even to bias wheel players). You could record all the spins in the world and then
go to attack it and they change the wheel or someone works on it (or whatever). I'm 100% sure it's profitable to do this - but it's not what 99.9% of casino players have time to do. I want to show up, play, win, leave.. repeat..

 

I dont know if it is my imagination

but sometimes when playing airball i get the feeling the ball and wheel have magnets that attract eachother. just the way the ball falls into the pocket sometimes

now it does not happen all the time. sometimes it seems as real as a real wheel, with the chaotic bouncing around. but sometimes its as if a switch is turned on and the ball gets controlled and it falls into a pocket like its a bullet and the pocket is a target

it may be in my head

i will only play at an airball wheel that is almost full, for obvious reasons

most of the times the airball looks real. but every now and then, the ball looks funny the way it enters the pocket, some sort of attractive force

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US20080214264

"ceasing rotation of the roulette wheel to indicate a first winning number corresponding with a first random number generated by the random number generator."

DOES INTERBLOCK USE THIS. If so is it bad? If it is a real wheel why is a RNG needed, roulette is naturally RNG

I dont get it

someone read this patent and tell me what you think

 

Turbo,

My point was that unless you've have the experience, then you're not going to know that RNG spins differ wildly from live wheel spins after enough spins have passed.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.
Some anomaly that appears after X amount of spins could happen with either.
And if it takes that make spins before it's noticeable which is which then it doesn't matter to the player
who is at the table for a limited amount of time when they play.

Let's take RX for example and it's RNG.
You can manually seed the RNG with a number from 1 to 2,147,483,647 for example
That's 2.147 BILLION
So no.... lets say I send you 20 numbers and then you have a program to search each of these
2+ billion sets of numbers and try to match my 20 to it. Not going to happen.
And then there could theoretically be multiple seeds that contain that exact 20 number spin sequence
so that doesn't help. You would need a large enough number of spins and then find that specific RNG seed
with that sequence to exploit it... ? Ok then - but if it's seeded based on the clock, etc, etc. it's possible
that you could never match my sequence to some pre-defined sequence.
But it's late and I'm babbling. My point being - NO ONE can tell RNG from actuals unless you have some
obvious wheel flaw (and even then !!!!) Remember Bago at GG who basically made me eat my words
because I said that with enough spins RNG could never produce a bias wheel result ? Well I ran a crap-load
of RNG spins and sure enough I managed to find a bias wheel test result (even though it was RNG and not a wheel !)
So there was that.....
You could record numbers from a live wheel - get a bias wheel result and the wheel NOT be bias.
You could record RNG spins and get a bias wheel result (with no wheel).
I know you have other factors besides recorded spins in order to "do what you do" and that makes total
sense to me. But spins aren't reliable enough to know which (rng or live wheel) they came from.
No one can do this and be 100% accurate, it's "lore" that has always been around and will always be.

 

My point is that most of the time you CAN tell the difference between an RNG wheel and a live roulette wheel. The big difference is the live wheel doesn't appear as random as the RNG. The chi square is typically higher, the standard deviations for the numbers vary more, even the shapes of the graphs differ.

 

Guys, you are very naïve if believe that casinos will lose license if they manipulate with electronic devices RNG and airball machines. Noone cannot prove that they cheat!!! Gaming commission never look what is happening with a ball BUT they only look final numbers and if distribution of them is normal then all is OK for them. And they look larger period of spins, not only a few hundred of spins. Pity is only that Gaminig commission does not look what players played and what numbers came out. If they would check that, then all would be clear very fast.

Turbo; why you not find one airball machine and try to play on it?? You will very fast find out difference between RNG, airballs and real tables.
But mate, I am not saying that you cannot win on devices, you can and probably will, but not so easy and so fast sometimes ;-)

 

Guys, you are very naïve if believe that casinos will lose license if they manipulate with electronic devices RNG and airball machines. Noone cannot prove that they cheat!!! Gaming commission never look what is happening with a ball BUT they only look final numbers and if distribution of them is normal then all is OK for them. And they look larger period of spins, not only a few hundred of spins. Pity is only that Gaminig commission does not look what players played and what numbers came out. If they would check that, then all would be clear very fast.

Turbo; why you not find one airball machine and try to play on it?? You will very fast find out difference between RNG, airballs and real tables.
But mate, I am not saying that you cannot win on devices, you can and probably will, but not so easy and so fast sometimes ;-)

 

I wouldn't be surprised if RNGs were manipulated

But why would they? It already has an edge

The main question for me is airball

The airball wheel will speed up and slow down the rotors. Obviously this is done to screw up visual ballistics players which to me isn't rigging it's still a random result.

But does the airball wheel really avoid bets or is it completely random

According to interblocks websites it's completely automated and random

I emailed them and have gotten no answer

 

The money from the edge only they buy toilet paper. Did you see their luxury? Is it coming from the edge money.people say if they reveal their system casino will change add another 0 or will change the layout. Why they need? They will just eliminate the live wheel and you are finished.how they ensure fixed income? Definitely not from edge.

 

Why something so obvious isn't obvious for those who are doing it??
Incredibly ludicrous for me!

Exactly!
Do you think a 93.7% payout (just example) holds true and up to what extend?
Who publishes those payouts?
Who says that those ''independently'' agencies are not getting a cut in order to release favorable (for casinos) information?

The only thing which they care about is to harvest taxes and to prevent or punish money laundering.
As long as they collect taxes and get paid well with one way or the other, they don't give a fuck if the average Joe is getting ripped off!
Even when they bring them to courts their laws are ridiculous because instead of using harsh punishments as examples in order to prevent others doing the same, they put fines to be paid and the thieves have no problem to pay a part of their rip offs in order to avoid imprisonment for at least 10 years!
The laws are a joke, they don't serve justice and ethics!
All those corrupted people have law in their bank accounts, in their wallets, in their pockets but not in their minds!

These machineries are differentiating between 9,10 and 11 BAR, this has to do with the air pressure which affects the release of the ball, but also have several hidden (open and close) holes in order to launch ball from different points.
Rotor also varies RPS and DOR.
I had the worst results whenever played airballs.

Good luck with that!