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Roulette Roulette as a Business

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jun 8, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It doesn't work well. I had the source code wiped out by the company that makes the development software. I could not recover it.

    It adds " no bets" to the telemetry and I can't remove it. So I remove it with a text editor later. So it's a hassle.

    I would just stick with 1.4. The 1.5 software is here though. You can download it and use the same access code.
     
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  2. Gigi666

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    Not immediately up but once a trend on two streams is caught it climbs fast.
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  3. Gigi666

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    Sorry for polluting your thread, but just wanted to show that even going for higher payout double EC combos it can grow nicely

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  4. Gigi666

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    Played few more sessions, some shorter some longer, was always up 600+ quite quickly, not always getting to 800+ which was my target within 100 spins, but never ended in negative. As I only need 1 win in 4 bets on average I can't see so far how I could go down as far as 2000$ if that was my bank as per what you are playing with. Even if it happened it seems more likely to have a profitable session than a losing one. Maybe I'll give it another go online.
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You are not wrecking this thread. I'm actually interested in only hunting combo bets like you are. Once in a while you can hit a bet on all three combos, like odd, high, red for instance. It sort of like playing for one dozen to win at a time. Only it's 9 or 10 numbers. If you see two columns dominating you can hit on them for the combo bet. You can also combine patterns with trends. It's an interesting strategy.
     
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    Yes you can sometimes hit on three, but I tried that before , it was pushing it too much, I like the steady win to lose ratio with combos as losses are not drawing you down too fast even when a session like below happens from +600 to -280, I still managed to catch few nice trends eventually to get a new high. Even a slightly lower win% did not stop it going up as its still over the expected ~24%

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    There seems to be a pattern in those charts. At some point there is always a winning streak that goes up by around 1000+ in short space of time. What I found working best so far is once two streams win I keep my bets on them until a loss or I see its unlikely to continue (for example BRRRB, I bet here R and if RRR happens if something else shows I switch that part of combo) even though a fresh pattern/trend shows on something else.
     

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    Just to show its not all straightforward wins, but again even after getting as low as -1200 it did eventually hit a winning streak of 1000+ bringing balance back up to small profit.

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  9. gizmotron

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    That just shows how volatile randomness can be. It takes years of this to get use to the ups and downs. People experience big downs and they give up. I spent decades allowing myself to descend deep into my bankrolls knowing that these powerful win streaks can be exploited. It's one thing to have the confidence to play this way. Those that don't have these strengths should do something else with there time and money. I invented 3 / 7 to give myself a rigid set of rules. In a sense I get out of a freefall state and live to fight another day.
     
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  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Amy future discussions about the EC combo bets are being planned ?

    Or let it whither on the vine ?
     
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  11. Gigi666

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    It's a personal preference, I like the higher payout of them, but currently between testing/playing this and cycle "averagers". Either way this can work as well as plain ECs. I played 1 session live but without Specials since live play tracking has a different set of numbers than practice tool that I use to get my combinations to bet on.
    Maybe @gizmotron would have time to make a change for me.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I went to the casino and played Roulette. I played two sessions that both opened with huge losing streaks. So I gave up on waiting and went over to the Craps table. I killed it with the so called sucker bet, the field numbers. But what got my interest was that an elderly couple there played independently on both ends of the table and massacred the casino. They were playing a minimum bet on the pass line and used the 5,6,8,9. & 10 on the place bets.

    I was looking into calling off or on a place bet on 5 combined with the field bets. That would give me a 20 to 36 chance to win on each toss. I was also doing well with the not pass bets, even though the come out is pretty bad for that bet. But it does give me a way to cover the 7 with a bet that just sits there until it's resolved.

    Funny, Roulette was in a full on bad phase but Craps were doing just fine. I like to play were a decision is made on each toss. It takes too long to wait out pass or don't pass.

    I'm thinking of making a chart to play reading randomness for Craps. Nobody charts Craps that I have ever seen. I just need to track the activity of the sevens. I could do that with my chip tray. I could use singles for each time a seven is thrown. Just like when the zeros go to sleep or get hyper active, the sevens must do the same things. Lot's of sevens means Don't Pass. I could watch the numbers 5, 6, & 8 also. These are common numbers that kill off the field bets. They only had one Roulette table going so I had to bail out of that for the trip.

    It all comes down to seeing what trend or set of numbers is in domination. If you can't see that then there is no point in playing while it's like that. Any game that offers a near 50% / 50% chance and payoff is good enough to use for tracking win streaks.
     
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  13. Nathan Detroit

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    A very interesting T R. It was smart not going for a third roulette session .

    My MO attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions ..

    ND
     
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  14. Nathan Detroit

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    The EC combo bets A B C require a different strategy than generally known .


    Therein lies the key for success.


    ND
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is the magical deal going on here. Most people get as far as assuming that this is some lame form of pareidolia. So let's make sure you're up to speed on defining that.
    The problem is when someone see familiar formations they like to attribute meaning to it all. And this is where the assumptions become problematic. There is no meaning. But, you can take these meaningless formations and apply bet selections to them. The result will be meaningless unpredictability. But there can be a wonderful, real, use for these formations and impressions. In gambling you should be in search of win streaks. The 21 players that count cards are in search of win streaks. The Craps players that look for a player having a hot streak are doing the same things.

    So how do you use pareidolia to find win streaks? It's actually very simple. You don't find win streaks. They find you. Betting on a trend gets you exactly the same results that blind random guessing gets you. There is no capacity to predict the future. Only math oriented retards assume that is what is being claimed. But what is really true about that is that math oriented retards tend to look like their mother's are still dressing them. They won't allow themselves to get past "prediction" as a claim. That is a form of deficient brain capacity. It can't be cured. There are no pills that will make a brain-dead numbers geek smart enough to see beyond their own self imposed confinement. So they wonder the desert of ideas in the night like zombies.

    Back to reality. When you blind guess or use a trend for bet selection you get one of three types of results at a time. You get losing streaks, winning streaks, or none specific chaos. Only the win streak phase is in your favor. You might be able to reverse a losing streak by shifting to the opposite side. But all this goes to streak recognition. Now you would think that a math oriented retard would see this point. But the reality is that they never do and never will. That is because they know it all and that their assumptions are correct. Only what they have done is wrap their own heads in a self imposed "Red Herring" kind of a trap. But you don't have that problem. You can see that the goal is to identify win streaks. This can be the result of trend bet selection or blind random selection. In either case you get win streaks at times.

    The key to using win streaks is money management. You bet big during a win streak and bet small during a losing streak or random chaos. It's really that simple.

    I like to use trends because when they are in a win streak phase they act like they are telling the future. Only they are not. But the result is the same as if random guessing were being used and you were in a winning streak.

    By using trends and patterns in charts I can see active win streaks in other places where I was not placing bets. I can hunt different scenarios for things that continue. You can't do that with blind guessing. You are stuck to only one data track. I can play out if / then tracks in my mind in search of strong continuations of would be bets. I can enter any strong continuing formation and attempt to exploit it. I can wait for configurations of continuing things that come in packs of similar sizes. Formation do this at times. An example would be micro trends that only last four steps and then end as a fifth step occurs. Math geniuses have trouble with these kinds of things because they have difficulties relating to others and seeking information that comes in the forms of information that are useful to relating. It's a blind area. If it can't be explained mathematically then it must be a claim of magic.

    Now watch one of them come forward and claim it's all about prediction.
     
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  16. Nathan Detroit

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    What positive progression would be in order ?


    OR ?
     
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    Please no suggestions from the Stu Pitt Clan.


    Thanks .
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    None generally speaking.

    If I see where two in a rows might be indicated then I would go 2, 1 or 3, 2
     
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    With 2.1or 3, 3 continue flat betting 1 until the first loss .

    The last bet should always be a loss .
     
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    Business ...wth... Should search chips on the ground...
     

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