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Roulette Roulette - Random - Predictable ?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Why would you just not use your name when posting ?
    I can reply to everything that you post - but some of it is obviously just trying to get me to point out things that I've already pointed out clearly in other threads.
    You are obviously anti-system which is fine - most of us aren't.
    I feel like - in order to reply to you properly, I have to repeat things that I've already said - and it seems that you haven't read anyway, so it's a waste of time (my time).
    If you're interested in learning something - just say so. I don't think your approach is very well thought out.
    You are actually contradicting what you're saying in some cases. So if it's "trolling" to get a response - I'll probably reply back to what you comment on, but if you stop and think about it yourself you'll figure it out.
    You might rely on bias wheels (like that other guy) or other forms of AP - but you certainly "are" interested in these so-called crazy systems as well.
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Fossell gets it !


    Go watch the video on random again with the completely random and unpredictable blips from the Geiger counter - you'll learn something about how random works (over time) and perhaps get out of the mentality that this game is all about 1 spin and how that 1 spin can't be predicted and therefore there's nothing of value in anything that I'm saying. Look at the big picture - you'll have to change your username though once you figure it out lol
     
  3. Michaela

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    TG, I specifically said in a previous post that it isn't possible to predict a SEQUENCE of spins. Please go back and read my post again.

    Why not use yours? "Michaela" appealed to my sense of iron because I'm making sense whereas you - "TurboGenius" are not. Of course you're not stupid, I just think you (and most other system players) are like a rabbit caught in the headlights - fascinated by systems. Systems are fun, and there are so many "possibilities", but they don't "work". All a progression does is to increase the variance so that you have a better chance of making a profit in any session but the other side of the two-edged sword is that when you lose you lose bigger than if you'd been flat betting.
     
  4. Michaela

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    I'm not frustrated ( and certainly not for the reasons you think) but it does irritate me when posters post heart-warming charts and make absurd statements like "and you can do this all day every day - regardless of "Hot" or "Cold" numbers, regardless of the dealer or the casino... because it is math which even the casino has no ability to change." [TG].

    As Caleb has so eloquently put it, such assertions contribute to the "infection of ignorance". The problem is that although it's easy enough to dismiss such assertions by pointing to the "math", it comes across as a bit lame because most people uneducated in math (real math) don't appreciate the generality of mathematical statements. They don't understand that the simple math of roulette applies regardless of the bet selection and progression: they are all equally worthless in terms of gaining a real edge. So those convinced of the worth of systems think you're just being lazy and that you haven't made the effort to "think out of the box", or you are just closed-minded, or whatever.

    I know I won't convince the die-hard system fans, but there are newbies at forums too. I can only present my case and let readers make up their own minds. Unfortunately, many people abandon their critical faculties at the suggestion of "free money" which systems seem to offer.

    P.S. FWIW, my name is Mike.
     
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  5. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I do use mine - I've used Turbogenius on every forum that I've been a part of since the very beginning at GG a long long long time ago. You on the other hand supposedly joined Sunday after never being on a forum before with a user-name people would know - and then decided Michaela fits best. ? No. I get the "joke" - it just doesn't make sense. You might as well use your actual forum name.

    That is true. You Know that each spin is independent from the last. You Know that the casino pays out less on a win than the odds of any win appearing are. That's all you seem to care about and you're content with leaving it at that.
    You also said that you can "expect" things to happen. (on average) but you can't figure out how to use this to your advantage because you are stuck on the single spin that's coming next and no ability to see past that.
     
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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    A high five though on the avatar lol.
    I think that book sums up how you feel about roulette systems ? Seems so.
     

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