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Roulette Session tracking

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Gigi666, Feb 3, 2022.

  1. THR33 X THR33

    THR33 X THR33 New Member

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    @SPIKE

    I wanted to quote your reply but I click the Quote, a message comes up "Message added to multi-quote" but it doesn't appear anywhere. Can anyone help?

    I have to disagree. The numbers from yesterday don't have anything to do with the numbers from today but the numbers from 10 minutes ago have nothing to do with the numbers now. If I start my session at 1:00 or 2:00 or 3:00 they are going to be different numbers whatever time I start. If I log 100 numbers today then wait 5 minutes I will get a certain sequence, however it wouldn't be the same as if I'd waited 10 minutes, so waiting 24 hours I'm going to get a different sequence anyway, there can't be any advantage or disadvantage in continuing today or waiting till tomorrow.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I(t stays the way I said it 3 2 1.NO further discussion.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am in charge of the game I* am playing .
     
  4. SPIKE

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    Hit quote, then immediately hit reply and it will show up.

    The numbers from 10 minutes ago have everything to do with what you're playing. They are telling you if your method of bet selection is working or not. If your method of bet selection was not working for the last 15 or 20 spins it's probably not working now. I look at the last 15 or 20 outcomes and bet virtually in my head to see if I'm winning. If I'm not winning why would I be betting real money. I wait for the virtual betting to start winning and then I know it's time to bet. It's like hunting and tracking an animals footprints in the snow. I don't see the footprints and just start wildly shooting my gun in all directions. I track the footprints and when I see my prey I take a shot.
     
  5. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I never saw it until I started playing multiple online casinos. I never saw it because all my local casinos only have a couple of roulette tables and they are very seldom going at the same time in the daytime. In Las Vegas I never played at night because it was too crowded so a place like MGM where they have like six or seven roulette tables that would all be going at night, in the daytime there was only one or two. So I never got a chance to see the Global Effect. And I played 90% of the time in Vegas downtown where most of the casinos only had one or two roulette tables. I think Golden Nugget had 4 but they were never going at the same time except on weekends.
     
  6. THR33 X THR33

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    Thank you. :)

    I understand the numbers from this session follow in sequence on a live table, I can watch for however many numbers I wish until I feel conditions are favourable, but on an rng the next number is bound to change according to wether I click it in 6 seconds or 6 minutes or 6 hours, so keeping this session till tomorrow or starting afresh tomorrow cannot make any difference.
     
  7. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I don't know, I don't play RNG produced outcomes, they are not true random they are fake random. Pseudo-random.
     

  8. Proofreaders2000

    Proofreaders2000 Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    do you think you could still win your session even if you switched tables mid way or take a break-Gigi

    If the dealer's spins are similar to the time
    before the break or at the other wheel, I'd say yes.
     
  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't know, I don't play RNG produced outcomes, they are not true random they are fake random. Pseudo-random.
    
    Can you tell the difference between RNG - TRNG - Actuals.

    No one can.

    Cheers
     
  10. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I assume the only one that could give it a try and make one educated guess is Snowman (Caleb).
    And I assume he would need at least 10.000 trails samples of each.

    He is the only one with the experience to tell the difference.

    Cheers
     
  11. SPIKE

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    I can tell the difference if I try and play them. RNG outcomes behave differently than actuals and it's fairly easy to spot if you have lots of experience looking at actuals. Anything can happen on a real roulette wheel which is not true with an RNG. And no I'm not doing a test so don't even ask. I did that once and once was enough. People doing the testing think they're clever and cute when they give me two sets of actuals or two sets of RNG and claim they're one of each. Which is exactly what you'd do. You don't want to see if I can do it or not you want to see me fail to do it.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    One final comment about the Monte Carlo Anecdotes and Systems that the chapters are entertaining

    and not boring at all . Especially how some people succeeded cheating the casino .

    Emphasis on the EC variety of B and R, Good reading too .


    Google in the copy.
     
  13. SPIKE

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    It's interesting from a historical point of view, I read it four or five times. It's just that nono of it works unless you get really lucky. The progressions in the book are the ones we still use today and they predate that 1910 book by probably 100 years. As I said in another post let it ride was probably the most common system in Europe 150 years ago. Everybody used it because you can take a small bankroll and if you got lucky you could actually make some money by never risking more than one unit of your bankroll at a time.
     
  14. Sputnik

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    I wrote for all the others who read this topic and share my opinion.
    I know you can not tell the difference.

    Have a nice Sunday.

    Cheers
     

  15. SPIKE

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    LOL! I love how on gambling forums how everybody measures the limitations of everybody else by what they themselves can and cannot do. You can't tell the difference between RNG and a real wheel so you just assume that nobody can. Just like Johno cannot beat roulette so he assumes nobody can. It's the height of ignorant arrogance it's why you never learn anything new because you think you already know everything.
     
  16. Sputnik

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    That is nonsense and ridiculous coming from someone who has trolling forums for over a decade with lies.

    Have a nice Sunday and yes I let you have the last word, don't want to let you waste my energies with empty claims.
     
  17. SPIKE

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    Not nonsense or ridiculous in the least. Let me give you an example. Things happen on a real wheel that never ever ever ever happen on an RNG. For instance last week at one of my online casinos real wheels one of the dozens slept for 29 spins. I even took a screenshot of it and posted it in the RR thread. You can play an RNG for the rest of your life and never see anything close to this because it doesn't fit into the parameters of how a random number generator works. This is just a drastic example, but there are dozens of other ones going to apply this that will let you tell the difference between RNG and a real wheel. Put the biggest reason for me is I cannot beat consistently an RNG but I can consistently beat a real wheel. That's how I can tell the difference. Outcomes of from an RNG just never 'feel' right. Your biggest problem is you want them to be the same so you pretend they are. I wish they were it would make my life a lot easier.
     
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  18. Sputnik

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    I could not hold back and will be polite.
    If I remember correctly one had simulated 1 million RNG using Roulette Extreme and got one dozen sleep 32 times.

    Just for the record.

    Cheers
     
  19. SPIKE

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    There will always be outliers but as a rule outcomes from an RNG are very well behaved. The reason a real roulette wheel can be beaten is because it is truly random. RNG's produce pseudo-random so there is no rhyme or reason to them. I truly wish I could play RNG produced outcomes but they are a waste of time. But for you in your mind they have to be equal or using platforms like RX Extreme and it's RNG would be useless to you. Which of course it basically is, but it gives you something to do and keeps you off the streets so it does have a use. When I use RX Extreme I only use actuals which I get from the German casinos.
     
  20. Naughty but nice

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    Remember smartlive?
    Were they live or a video of a spin.
    I see on smartlive a dozen sleep 34 spins. Some spins later it missed the same dozen for; Guess it? 34 spins.
    So, was smartlive; live or RNG
     

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