Should we allow members of other Gambling Forums to claim their username taken by someone else here?

Yes,
We should allow all to choose their preferred username unless it has already been taken by anyone else as usernames are not subject to copyright and if someone is already using that username, there is a problem in giving it to anybody again, for that matter. There is nothing like a rightful owner of a username. Although if someone is willingly misusing anyone's username who is having 1000s of posts online and well recognized we may ask the duplicate user the reason for opting that username specifically and can even change that if the original gets in here himself.
There is nothing like reputation in this gambling forum world but if username has become one's identity, let him have it without any condition. Why should we bother to verify all these and cause him trouble in migrating here from his old forum? I am against such verification.

 

this is not a legal question. Its a question of fairplay.

Of course we should not be subject to people pretending to be someone else.

Allowing people to take other peoples screennames, brings confusion. Confusion that the person wants to unleash on a site.

DMSCR on another site was accused of calling people on that site "morons" from this site. He claims he never registered here.

Mr V on another site claims he isnt here posting. Again bring confusion and some chaos when addressing opinions posted here.

This site, if allowed to have a bunch of "pretenders" becomes less credible. Posts become non-believable. You cant take posts at face value, you now have to wonder if the person is saying something in order to be counter to the same screen name at the other site. It becomes a joke,

Is it "legal".....sure. Is it damaging to a website.....SURE.

i am not looking for punishment for people....JUST NICELY TELL THEM....to change the name.

 

Oh really. We do not have Newtons or Einsteins here that can fight over what scientific concepts belong to whom. All are very ordinary gamblers who try to shed their frustration on gambling forums. I do not understand why an investigation is required before granting an username? If they are so desperate they should register themselves here first.

 

Good points, Al.

In the old days, five to ten years ago when the gambling forums where bustling and bristling, there might have been some merit to this question. Some. But does anyone really care anymore, now that there's virtually no one to care? All the ones who left for better things, died, or just became disillusioned with all aspects of gambling and gambling forums, couldn't even care less now. (Did V and D et al come here to plead a case to the admin? Of course not.)

However, Al, there is already a "genius" here. The first element of the periodic table is actually the third. And, there are an infinity of mental and physical dimensions with base-12 as the default numerical system of count. (Is that enough clues?)

 

it all comes down to obvious intent to deceive . Within this website someone can pick a screen name Rinsler or albahala...and wreak havoc causing people to say "its not me". You see the intent to cause negative issues. There is no other reason to select those screen names so close to Rinzler and albalaha. Yet you can hide behind"free speech" and technically breaking no rules.
However this website could be over run with these imitations that have no real reason to exist other than to cause confusion and uncertainty.
Thereby making this website just a sandbox with a collection of people looking to dissolve it...looking to make it a joke,.....MAYBE folks from another site looking to lessen the competition.
A new site like this is even more impacted as each MrV type new member that enrolls, makes the percent total of members more suspect...since they make up a larger percent of members compared to wov that has a couple hundred visiting daily

 

I believe that is it is brought tothe administrators attention, that there is an attempt to deceive, then the admin has the rght to take action. Again not with childish punishment like they do at wov, but rather a self preservation move for the site where the person is nicely asked to change the name. And if the deceitful name continues then the person is obviously dead set on causing disruption and the person removed.

it has nothing to do wiith "old days" or current days. It has to do with right and wrong....about fair play

 

I agree with LarryS above, it's about right and wrong. I assume there is an issue with this going on here for it to be brought up in the first place?

 

If someone does it intentionally to hurt anybody action could be taken on complaint and after verification but memberships should be given after scrutiny from earlier forum looks sick to me. Specially when many forum accused this site to hijack their members and also posts via Sparky.

 

Who can get into someones mind and gleen "intent". Either its wrong for everyone or wrong for no one.
If all the offender has to do is claim...."i wasnt intentionally hurting someone" in order to keep the duplicate name,....how silly is that.

Its not up to the administrator to try to be the amazing Kreskin, and try to mind read "intent".

The question should be, ...is it healthy for this site to be possibly over run with a bunch of duplicate names from other sites....no matter what the "intent "is.

Is it good for the well being of this site to be known as the home of deceiving screen names allowed by the moderator.

If you allow one....you have to allow all.

There are anonymous people on wov with alias screenames that give good info on various games. And some people follow them. Can someone else come here and take that exact name, and post info that may not be in agreement with the original screen name owner? And if the original screen name owner would like to join here, they find another person is using their moniker. What a mess.

So is it the administrators job to decide whether the person on the other board has a following, and only then take action.??? I think not. I think there is a rule for everyone to follow.

The rule would be, "no deceiving screen names" which means no exact duplicates from another board, and no very similar names from this board or the other boards ie rinzler/rinsler, SPIDER/SPlDER, Frank Scoblete/ Frank ScobIete. It would be up to the admin to decide where the line is crossed as in what is too close to be fair to all parties and to unsuspecting visitors.

 

And the way to administer the rule, would be that the admin gets a complaint.

The admin quietly goes to the other site and PMs the person, asking confidentially if they are indeed the same person posting on both sites.
There is no need to "out" them publicly as they may be viewed as disloyal to the original board.

And if the poster has publicly stated that its not them, as with MrV or DMSCR....then the admin can act based on that public admission and even still send a PM to make sure.

I dont see this being a huge time consuming daily issue. Once the offenders see that someone is indeed watching the store, they will stop.

 

"Should we allow members of other Gambling Forums to claim their username taken by someone else here?"

Can you make this question any harder to read? I think I'll just vote to even things up.

Reminds me of a guy who called himself usernametaken, and another guy claimed it was his id.


P.S. It's this one "community's voice", which is at stake here.

 

I know that question doesnt even address the issue at hand,

The issue being, whether the original name holder wants to claim that name here or not.....there are people taking others names and coming here to perpetrate deception...thereby ruining the credibility of the board, and making posters like me not want to participate.

why not allow Franklin Socblete,as a screename....NOone is using it....and yet some unsuspecting person might think that the advice or comments under that name was from the real Scoblete.

 

I think, things are being overhyped here, for nothing. Will forum administration decide which username its member should have or not? If someone has the name Barack, he may not be the US President himself.
If someone claim that someone's username is willingly harming him in any manner, admin may consider that or not, entirely upto him. He may ask the existing user that the reason for the username and if he is aware of the other's association with that and if needed can change or alter that.
That's it. Enough said.

 

so someone can pretend to be someone else from another site with the exact screen name, with proof of that person responding on another site that it is not him/her.....that person can continue to post here as the bogus MrV or DMSCR......going forward into the future and possible duping others into thinking they are the original.....and nothing in the rules dis-allows this.

Especially on a thread about another specfic website where those 2 names exist as other people.Dont you think that it more than a coincidence. Dont you think that there was and is intent to deceive? And is it the job of the admin to protect especially the new members that may sign up months from now and arent going to read this......from deception.

But according to the rules those names are perfectly fine unless the original folks ask to claim it.

I think if handled on a case by case basis, the admin can see clearly intent to deceive ....and if there is deemed to be intent to deceive....what do you do?? Just stand aside and let the deceptive screennames build until your site is viewed as a joke.
Just stand aside and watch screenames like Mshakelford, wizardofodds, wizardofvegas, FScoblete, be added to MRv and DMSCR.

I appreciate that this board has no heavy handed oppressive authority. But common .....you think it is fair play where there is a thread on wov website, and 2 people use names from wov, and never up front admit they are not the people from that site? You dont see that someone or some people are playing games with your site.....and the fllodgates can open if you let them

I will be the first to leave this site for this threads reason, because I cannot trust this type of deception will stop.

Its just a personal preference. As the admiin you have a better idea than me on what will grow your business.

Thanks for letting me post my opinions and thanks for treating me fairly in the past. Like I said its just a personal preference and trust issue on my part. If I cant trust the integrity of the site....I leave.

I wish you success.

 

Thanks for securing the integrity of this site.......with your recent research and action

 

I think admin's rules in this regard are upto the mark.
There is no copyright or patents attached to a username or its use in several forums but still offending usernames can be altered upon complaints and after investigation and giving a fair chance to the existing user here.

I think making benchmarks of so many posts or days of activity makes it too mechanical. A fair complaint may be followed by a fair trial and a fair judgement. That's all my Lord.

 

That riddle made my head hurt

 

So to be clear, you have absolutely no problem with someone on this site using the name "albahala" and posting things that you wouldnt want to be attributed to you. Maybe claiming on a thread that he enjoys bestiality porn, or even child porn. There is nothing wrong with the name..like you said its not copyrightable and the admin shouldnt have to look at "intent".

And of course he should be able to go to any other forum using your name, or the slightly different one I suggested, and go on about his love for necrophilia.

Again, no copyrights breached .

Its all good.

of course the examples used are way out there...but whether its sexual preference, or gambling advice......it may not be something that you want attributed to you.