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Roulette Single Dozen Bet

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rheti, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Rheti

    Rheti Member

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    Hi New here.

    I analyzed so far 26k of spins related to Wiesbaden.
    But it's rather time consuming (do it by hand in Excel).

    My system is easy, starting the day by analyzing 13 spins related to the dozens.

    Bet on spin 14 and 15, no progression on a single dozen.

    Wait 3 spins, include the 2 betting spins, makes 5, remove the oldest 5 spins, analyze it and bet again twice.

    Looks quite promising, so far. 8% above 54.4% (probability)

    Could you help me to analyze it more faster.

    Like to see a format as : 5-5-3/6-6-3 or
    8-4-1/8-5-2
    or if there's a zero 4-4-4/4-4-6

    Thanks in advance .

    Rheti
     
  2. BETJACK

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    I wish You good luck with your system.
     
  3. Rheti

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    well thanks.. No help unfortunately
     
  4. gizmotron2

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    Rheti, you need to analyze closer to the latest spin result. When you have rules that are far removed from the latest spin result you open yourself up to changes that naturally occur in randomness. Those changes will kill you system like a killer sequence. You will find out that you are not actually getting your 54.4%. In fact, the last spin can be the beginning of a killer sequence.
     
  5. mr j

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    Too many numbers, it wont work.

    Ken
     
  6. Rheti

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    So far I created 5134 sessions and related to 26k of spins. I am 8% up, so far so good. When I do an Extrapolation, my system will be even with 56k of spins or 9.. months of Wiesbaden.. We wll see. But i like more progress in Speeding the data.

    So maybe You can help.

    Rheti
     
  7. Rheti

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    How many ?

    Rheti
     
  8. gizmotron2

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    I'm a computer programmer and have written well over a thousand Roulette simulations. The most important thing I do is putting telemetry into my sims so that if any mistakes are made many eyes can validate or confirm operational accuracy or even mistakes. I'm not afraid to make an input mistake while doing this. That is why I include telemetry. I made a mistake just last week, right here in front of everyone. It happens. One line of code executed out of sequence can cause an error. Development languages do this some times. They execute one thing before another in an equation and then you are screwed. So, if you want me to test and show you what it really is doing I need a spin by spin example of the rules. From that I will power test the sim for you and you will have your answer. I already know that it can't work but it will teach you about the magical illusion some systems have on players. The other way is to go to a casino and put up a lot of your own money. That way you can get the full effect of the gambling lesson.
     
  9. Rheti

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    Alright here one example, I just analyzed from wiesbaden:

    4 1
    8 2
    28 1
    10 1
    22 1
    31 1
    30 3
    19 1
    14 2
    19 1
    33 3
    36 3
    17 2

    a Pattern of 7-3-3. i bet on dozen 2 2 times no progression.. a winner. So far 83 times and 62.7 %

    spins number 14 and 15 29 and 34.

    i have roughly 190 Variables like this.. and 7.8% above 54.4% Probability as a whlole.

    I start the day by analyzing 13 spins, place 2 bets on spin 14 and 15, wait 3 times, 16,17,18, remove the eldest 5 and and include the newest 5.

    That's it
     
  10. Rheti

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    I am surprised that even the balanced outcome like 4-5-6 or 5-5-5 having a Pattern.

    1/3 of the time. 2/3 is standard deviation, pattern become even more clear
     
  11. Rheti

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    Another example :

    31 1
    30 3
    19 1
    14 2
    19 1
    33 3
    36 3
    17 2
    29 2
    34 1
    9 3
    19 1
    13 1

    6-3-4 Pattern .. 2 bets on dozen 2 a Winner

    spin 14 and 15 : 22 and 5... 114 times in my database 64.5%
     
  12. gizmotron2

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    I don't get the meaning of the pattern "a Pattern of 7-3-3"

    I can see that you are using the columns as your group of three sets to make up the full group. How can there be anything beyond a "3." Do these patterns consist of the number of hits in a column?
     
  13. Rheti

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    13 spins and 7-3-3 means 7 times dozen 1 3 times dozen 2 and 3 times dozen 3
     
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    All I need now is your selection method. In this example "6-3-4 Pattern .. 2 bets on dozen 2 a Winner" you selected the dozen that hit the least.

    How do you select once you have the 13 spin data?
     
  15. Rheti

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    I collected 26k of spins, resulting in 5155 sessions and the 6-3-4 came through 114 times and dozen 2 gives the best result 64.5% that's 8% above probability.

    But i need more data, preferring faster
     
  16. gizmotron2

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    Let's make the basic assumption that the dozen to hit the least is due to hit on spin 14, 15, or both?

    Here is the truth about all that:
    "The gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy or the fallacy of the maturity of chances, is the mistaken belief that, if something happens more frequently than normal during a given period, it will happen less frequently in the future. It may also be stated as the belief that, if something happens less frequently than normal during a given period, it will happen more frequently in the future. In situations where the outcome being observed is truly random and consists of independent trials of a random process, this belief is false. The fallacy can arise in many situations, but is most strongly associated with gambling, where it is common among players."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy
     
  17. gizmotron2

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    So I have to ask. Is one win out of two a winner, or is both spin 14 and 15, both winning, a winner?
     
  18. Rheti

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    If I hit on the 14th spin a winner, i stop, other wise another bet on spin 15
     
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  19. gizmotron2

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    Wait a second. Do you have a rule for each ?-?-? possible configuration? Example 4-7-2
     
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  20. Rheti

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    "The gambler's fallacy

    I know that
     

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