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Roulette Single Dozen Bet

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rheti, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Rheti

    Rheti Active Member

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    Yes
     
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    I can't power test this without that set of configurations and bet selections. But think about this. With two dozens selected, be they one at a time or both at once, you have a 63% on 38 slots and 64% on 37 slots chance of hitting if both spins are bet on. I can see where if you get a winner on spin 14 your win rate would drop that percentage.
     
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    I already know the answer. There can't be a pre selected set of rules or bet selections for each configuration that will beat the math. I've done too many sims. There can't be a way to beat a 32% chance on a 14th or 15th spin. Those are the real odds for each spin.
     
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    Of course i tested that too.. 2 dozens bet on spin 14 and of course a progression on spin 15.

    Here the results so far :

    1 2 2 2 3 3 1 3599 3599 69,81 64,86 91,25
    3 2 6 8 3 9 1 1105 1105 21,44 22,80 87,66
    3,59
    losses 451 -3608 8,75
    total 5155 1 096 profit
     
  6. Rheti

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    Single dozen:

    1 1 1 1 3 3 2 1976 3951 38,33 32,30 3196 62,00
    1 1 1 2 3 3 1 1220 1220 23,67 22,05 54,35
    7,65
    1959 -3918 38,0
    5155 1254 profit
     
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    Not bad after 26k of spins
     

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    I have 38% so far on the 14th spin
     
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    What do you think is the best dozen to bet after : 0-8-5 ?
     
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    I think the whole thing is baloney. After 13 spins, the odds are against you of selecting the correct dozen on the next one or two spins. What happened before will not change the odds. The only thing that makes a difference is that you know you are already in a win streak or not and then you can avoid placing a bet during a known losing streak. But being locked into placing a bet on the 14th or 15th spin is just nonsense. We, the gambling community, have already proven that sitting out bets, without a consideration for conditional awareness, can't change the odds. In fact the odds never change, even for conditional awareness. But you don't beat Roulette on a time schedule. You must allow the game to let you win. Your method can't work.

    Now when I'm faced with information that says I am winning with my rule based system I always look for the mistake. In this case there must be a mistake. That's what I think.
     
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    Did you look to te figures ? 38% at spin 14
     
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    We are not communicating. I need to see a list of bet selection configurations. I don't need your testimony from your spreadsheet findings. For one thing. I don't understand your figures. Please explain them so that at third grader can understand them. When anyone expects me to guess what their figures mean I get agitated. So far all I have is an unexplained claim. Get with it. Those figures of yours are meaningless without bet selection options that can be used in testing. I want to know how you came up with those figures. That is how you find out if it works.
     
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    Right, here the figures:

    sessions doz-1 doz-2 doz-3 betting
    1 0 3 8 3
    1 0 3 10 1
    1 0 4 8 1
    1 0 5 6 3
    1 0 6 5 1
    2 0 6 6 1
    5 0 6 7 1
    1 0 7 5 3
    2 0 7 6 3
    2 0 8 4 1
    7 0 8 5 3
    2 0 9 4 2
    1 0 11 1 2
    1 1 1 7 1
    1 1 2 8 1
    3 1 2 9 3
    2 1 2 10 1
    4 1 3 8 3
    4 1 3 9 1
    7 1 4 7 2
    8 1 4 8 3
    4 1 5 5 3
    21 1 5 6 2
    20 1 5 7 2
    2 1 6 3 2
    4 1 6 4 3
    19 1 6 5 3
    15 1 6 6 1
    3 1 7 3 1
    9 1 7 4 1
    23 1 7 5 1
    3 1 8 2 3
    3 1 8 3 3
    11 1 8 4 2
    8 1 9 3 1
    3 1 10 2 3
    1 1 11 0 3
    2 1 11 1 2
     
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    1 2 0 10 3
    4 2 1 9 1
    4 2 1 10 3
    7 2 2 7 3
    11 2 2 8 3
    10 2 2 9 3
    1 2 3 4 1
    9 2 3 6 2
    13 2 3 7 3
    25 2 3 8 1
    1 2 4 4 1
    14 2 4 5 1
    23 2 4 6 3
    41 2 4 7 3
    13 2 5 4 2
    41 2 5 5 3
    77 2 5 6 1
    6 2 6 3 2
    40 2 6 4 2
    86 2 6 5 3
    1 2 7 1 2
    1 2 7 2 3
    18 2 7 3 2
    46 2 7 4 2
    9 2 8 2 1
    33 2 8 3 3
    4 2 9 1 1
    6 2 9 2 2
    2 2 10 1 1
     

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    1 3 0 9 2
    1 3 1 7 2
    6 3 1 8 3
    7 3 1 9 2
    2 3 2 5 3
    10 3 2 6 1
    24 3 2 7 3
    28 3 2 8 3
    1 3 3 4 1
    14 3 3 5 3
    46 3 3 6 3
    87 3 3 7 1
    18 3 4 4 2
    66 3 4 5 1
    127 3 4 6 3
    1 3 5 2 2
    12 3 5 3 1
    74 3 5 4 1
    160 3 5 5 1
    2 3 6 2 1
    45 3 6 3 3
    131 3 6 4 3
    2 3 7 1 1
    21 3 7 2 2
    73 3 7 3 1
    7 3 8 1 2
    28 3 8 2 2
    7 3 9 1 2
     
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    3 4 0 8 3
    3 4 0 9 3
    2 4 1 6 1
    13 4 1 7 1
    15 4 1 8 3
    11 4 2 5 1
    29 4 2 6 1
    63 4 2 7 1
    1 4 3 3 3
    11 4 3 4 2
    70 4 3 5 3
    124 4 3 6 3
    2 4 4 2 3
    6 4 4 3 2
    84 4 4 4 3
    206 4 4 5 3
    1 4 5 0 1
    15 4 5 2 2
    65 4 5 3 1
    221 4 5 4 3
    6 4 6 1 1
    28 4 6 2 2
    143 4 6 3 1
    12 4 7 1 1
    59 4 7 2 2
    1 4 8 0 3
    18 4 8 1 3
     
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    1 5 0 7 3
    3 5 0 8 1
    3 5 1 5 2
    16 5 1 6 2
    25 5 1 7 2
    11 5 2 4 3
    48 5 2 5 2
    84 5 2 6 2
    1 5 3 2 2
    9 5 3 3 1
    64 5 3 4 3
    154 5 3 5 2
    1 5 4 1 1
    17 5 4 2 3
    86 5 4 3 3
    204 5 4 4 3
    3 5 5 1 2
    38 5 5 2 1
    166 5 5 3 2
    2 5 6 0 2
    17 5 6 1 2
    80 5 6 2 2
    1 5 7 0 2
    29 5 7 1 1
    1 5 8 0 1
     
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    2 6 0 6 2
    2 6 0 7 1
    1 6 1 4 3
    12 6 1 5 3
    24 6 1 6 1
    1 6 2 2 2
    5 6 2 3 1
    40 6 2 4 3
    82 6 2 5 2
    8 6 3 2 1
    46 6 3 3 1
    125 6 3 4 2
    1 6 4 0 2
    1 6 4 1 2
    40 6 4 2 3
    131 6 4 3 1
    19 6 5 1 3
    78 6 5 2 2
    3 6 6 0 3
    25 6 6 1 3
    3 6 7 0 2
     
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    4 7 0 5 3
    4 7 1 3 1
    9 7 1 4 2
    31 7 1 5 1
    5 7 2 2 2
    19 7 2 3 2
    64 7 2 4 1
    4 7 3 1 2
    28 7 3 2 1
    84 7 3 3 2
    9 7 4 1 2
    52 7 4 2 2
    2 7 5 0 2
    27 7 5 1 3
    2 7 6 0 1
     
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    1 8 0 3 1
    3 8 0 5 3
    1 8 1 2 1
    6 8 1 3 2
    16 8 1 4 2
    8 8 2 2 1
    35 8 2 3 2
    37 8 3 2 3
    3 8 4 0 2
    18 8 4 1 2
    1 8 5 0 1
    2 9 0 4 2
    1 9 1 2 3
    10 9 1 3 2
    12 9 2 2 2
    10 9 3 1 3
    3 9 4 0 1
    1 10 0 3 1
    1 10 1 0 2
    3 10 1 2 3
    3 10 2 1 3
    1 11 0 2 2
     

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