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Roulette Small random test

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Frodo, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. Frodo

    Frodo Member

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    Hi

    I`m doing a small test, on a larger group numbers (93,000 spins)
    Bet selection
    Betting on numbers that hit only, following the wheel
    Inside bets, individual numbers, individual numbers progression ( no group progression, a stupidity)
    Numbers will be selected and removed as the game progresses
    Simple positive progression 1-2-4-8

    Target: minimum 4 units/ spin

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    Will update you with the screenshots, please be patient as i have to do it manually as i do not know how to code RX.
    700/93,000 spins.

    Thread will be updated in the following days, i will let you know if it fails or not with the bankroll trend and game stats.

    Wish me luck
     
  2. Frodo

    Frodo Member

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    Well, looking at the grand scheme of things, what a difference between spins 700 and 1600!
    Large draw down between spins 1100 and 1400: 2627 units. Not worried about that one.
    It is part of the game, as the numbers "contract and expand". That`s why we need to remove numbers.
    So far it still recovered some, but only time will tell...
    There`s no magic involved, only lots of dynamic bets.
    Is it still gonna hold? I don`t know. Looking at the graph so far, it`s not pretty..
    It`s really a crash test with a very rudimentary progression, a battle between an idea and the mighty random.
    There are no stop loses. Its not a waiting game.
    All spins have bets on them.
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    So far, 2.77 units per spin, away from the 4 units/spin target.


    Will keep you posted later on.

    Stats so far:
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    Last edited: Feb 14, 2019
  3. Armitage Shanks

    Armitage Shanks Member

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    What if you had a group of inside numbers that had hit different amounts but you knew that some would hit again and roughly when wouldnt it make sense to bet as a group or you don't think this is possible? and good luck look forward to seeing how you get on.
     
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  4. Frodo

    Frodo Member

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    Hi Armitage Shanks,

    In my tests, i found out that it is impossible to bet all numbers in the group as the variance will come and wash away your winnings.
    Turbo said it all too well, you have to somehow reduce the numbers. If something has to work, it has to "feed" on the variance.
    The bet HAS to be dynamic. you do not bet on the same numbers for 20 spins. some numbers have to go while others appear.
    The window of opportunity is small, and you need to be decisive.
    You will need to use progression for this type of bet.

    An excellent post from another thread by Tesla and Mako :
    I am attacking a certainty, 100% sure, not anything else.
    In Theory, the bet i am experimenting now should not lose. But right now it is just a premise, not a certainty.

    I`m not happy at the current bankroll trend, i think i need to rethink the progression or just to add another progression step.
    The process is sound, it just needs some tweaking.
    I will definitely let you know if it fails or not.


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    Good night
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    A certainty huh?
    [​IMG]

    A certainty that you will lose.

    Seriously though, do more research and you'll find that others have long since traveled the path. Stop the rng nonsense before you lose an eye. What you need is a biased wheel, and numbers that hit more frequently than just two hits above expectation.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2019
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  6. Frodo

    Frodo Member

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    Hi,

    I do not understand what you mean,
    Maybe i was not clear enough. The certainty i am currently exploiting is this :

    "
    In 111 spins to expect a fifth hit:
    Number of spins: 9999990
    Number of cycles of 111 spins: 90090
    Cycles with five hits: 90090 / 90090
    Percentage: 100%

    In 111 spins to expect a sixth hit:
    Number of spins: 9999990
    Number of cycles of 111 spins: 90090
    Cycles with six hits: 90090 / 90090
    Percentage: 100%
    "

    It is not that complicated.
    The question is how to select the numbers that hit above expectation while remaining on plus after they hit.
    Common sense says not bet on numbers that do not show.

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    Found an error in the bet selection and will have to remake it.

    i Will update you as soon as i have some free time.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2019
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  7. Ripple Ratt

    Ripple Ratt New Member

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    Your going off on a tangent.

    Keep sample set to 50 which is what most casinos use for stats.
    Then u will see the sources for each number.
    About 9 cold 0x
    9 at 1x .
    Then a varying pool of 2x 3x 4x 5x 6x

    you will also see a cyclic trend in that 50 set.

    That is a better use of your analysis skills to keep it real world. Do your large sample size of spins but bracket it to 50 and you will see as the bracket moves what happens.
     

  8. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Active Member

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    @Frodo
    Keep goin' pal, you're doin' great work.
    Don't let the naysayers get you down.
    You are on the right track!
     

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