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Roulette So, I get into this AP discussion...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Can a person still be an AP player but always bet PRIOR to the ball spinning? I was aggressively accused of being an AP guy and I said......I will do ALL my chip placements
    prior to the ball being spun !! That should solve the issue?? I dont need to look at where the ball is spun NOR do I need much time to place chips. A couple seconds really.

    Ken
     
  2. TurboGenius

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    It's part of the BS they can simply use against you.

    Like the online casinos that clearly state in their TOS -
    if you are a "professional gambler" or you use a "system" your
    account can be banned and your winnings forfeited.
    DAFUCK ?
    So anyone who wins basically - they can label you AP, they can
    say you used a system or your a "professional gambler" and ban your
    account, take your winnings and send you on your way.
    Just the same - a casino can kick you out for winning.
    It sounds to me like your winning and they just want a reason to stop
    you from winning more by claiming you're doing something that violated
    their "rules".
     
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  3. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I just want a definition, not what AP is but rather how that definition plays into the WHEN of the betting along with, isn't most of AP (skills) USED after the ball is spun? If a solid YES, then thats not me, by definition.

    Ken
     
  4. Bombus

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    some rudimentary vb techniques can be bet before ball spin
     
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    and I know what you are getting at but I dont care what dealer picks up the ball OR when its released OR where its released etc.

    My chips are down already. If they are gonna "get me", at least have decent reasoning. (imo)

    Ken
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Biased wheel players bet before the ball is spun and are considered an AP player.
     
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    It must be BS, because into the spin if you mistake the rotor for example of only few pockets it will be a disaster at the end because time left will multiply the error.
    So we easily imagine that estimating something before ball is spun is totally useless. I 'm allready convinced that a vb player that using knee point ,to know how much time left,will struggle a lot in order to win.
     
  8. Sharptracker

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    @mr j

    Of course you could be an AP if you bet before as The General said like Bias players BUT as it is said ADvantage players has and edge.

    A Vb player has an edge because he know most of the time where the ball will land, this change the probability and gives the player an edge. The bias player has an edge because he detected that some numbers hit more than what they should... it changes the probability and gives the player an edge.

    But where's yours? When you place your chips on the layout, why the probabilities are changing? What gives you an edge?
     
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    The virtual HOT Asian Chick sat next to him at the table that makes the numbers that showed 2 times on the display board hit like crazy in the near future, especially if those numbers are either 6 and 9.
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Unlike others, Bottomfeeder Bombus plays with his own set of balls at the dinner table, not the roulette table. Come on Bombus, play with those damn things!! HaHaHa ;)
     

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