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Baccarat Stadium play 2019 February to August

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Punkcity, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    +2009 unit in 7 month mean +287 unit per month

    I play around approx 157 day. Because the exact data in my computer. But not significat different data

    157 day i play just around +28 unit so just +5 unit per month.

    Huge difference :banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
  2. Ordinary_people

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    @Punkcity

    Read your thread from page 1. I think i read this thread like watching tv series.

    So after i want to quote something. I must quote before i forgot. So far i am here. Still have 4 pages.

    Btw can i do the same to you like you say to jacob ?

    Thanks before
     
  3. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    No , not at the moment ordinary people, but thanks for asking.

    A 3 unit bankroll is not going to cut it.
    5% commish on 3 unit bankroll will kill any method if your unit is less than $10 per unit. We , you and I are most likely taking apples and oranges. Your method is not what I have described in the thread, your bankroll is not what is recommended in the thread.
    good luck
    Cheers
     
  4. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps you need to try a different game
    Read turbo genius thread about the gambler fallacy, or gizmo random thread some pretty straight forward stuff there on both threads. Cheers
     
  5. Bactz

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    Hi there Punkcity, i'm just wondering if that method you posted on page 14, going into great detail is your main strategy when playing to win?
    I haven't read it in full yet, but it looks very interesting... Thank you, I gotta take notes...hmm I'm excited.
     
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  6. Bactz

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    Punkcity, I hope you don't mind me asking that last question above. Cheers skippy.
     
  7. Ordinary_people

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    Yes i know how i play so far is different than yours because i just read this your thread today.

    So that's make me exciting is flat betting and how to max bet selection.

    I can easy make my bankroll to 50 unit like you said.

    10 unit for 1 day bankroll not a problem.

    What i must improve is to make my bet win rate minimum to around 52 or 53%.

    Today plus 5 unit gross before banker commission.

    Will try yout suggesttion 5 x 10 unit for bankroll.

    Thanks
     

  8. Ordinary_people

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    I already read turbo forum. I open my mind for all positive sharing and advice about baccarat, roulette.

    About gizmo thread. Not yet but maybe someday i will read
     
  9. Bactz

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    Punkcity, that's a very thought provoking way you approach gambling, from the details that I have read. You either have it or you don't, there's no middle road with regards to your mental state whether winning or losing, even so with methodology. The state of mind.. Can this trait be learned? I don't know..

    I guess some people are uncomfortable with changing their square pegs (as you described before.) All in all - very unique..
    As for me, I find it quite unsettling if I am down, without certainty or confidence to know that by the end of the month I will recoup the lost amount, and achieve a profit margin..
    That's a very strong, unique mindset you have.
    Congrats and cheers.
     
  10. Bactz

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    Also managing your emotions after a losing streak. That can be difficult.
     
  11. Ordinary_people

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    Can i know the name of this game ?

    Thanks
     
  12. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Baccarat
    Cheers
     
  13. Punkcity

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    Therein lies the crux of the matter, imho.

    Regardless if you have a sound method or not , if one cannot control the emotive aspect of your day to day work endeavour ( this job of baccarat for instance) then no you will not succeed.
    Imho.

    I suggest you read thread dialogue/ discussion with craps . This subject is touched on there. My opinion is and this is from first hand experience change your opinion of what you tell your self as what is “ difficult to do” as per your post , knuckle down, get your emotional shit together and succeed.

    The big question is to one’s self.

    Do I really want to succeed? Or do I actually enjoy losing more?

    If I want to succeed more than I want to lose what am I prepared to change about my own mindset?

    I want to succeed so , I will man up and not create excuses for my failure, I will control myself rather than let my emotions or degenerate gambling practices control me.


    I personally choose to succeed and changed whatever I needed too to get there , took awhile ( read years)

    If you ( generic you people) have ever overcome an addiction, cigarettes, drugs, alcohol etc then you will have an inkling as to what I’m saying. It’s not easy but can be done. The comments by craps as for all the reasons why he/anyone in his opinion could not change , and note I’m not trying to be nasty or disrespectful to poster craps in any way, was the exact reason he could never succeed at any method of selection criteria or money management, even if you held his hand and placed the wager for him , imho.

    I have posted previously on a recent thread even if the holy grail of holy grails was presented to 100 % of all people to wager in the casinoverse at least 80% of them would fail, lose their bankroll.
    Some people just bet to lose, it fulfills them more than winning. That’s a fact.

    Can you be taught?

    Only when you the individual decides you want to be taught and you want to learn. But it starts with yourself, control your emotional triggers first , then apply your self to the method you are currently using. What most people don’t realise is most have a unique method to select the winner bet/decision. It’s all the other baggage they bring to the table that causes the losses ( emotional, greed, degen gambling habits, self pity, companionship, unrealistic expectations of limited bankroll and or rate of return etc)

    You all look out for other people to tell you the “holy grail”

    there isn’t one

    that’s the simple answer. Sozz

    Most of you as I posted have a viable process unique to your self. You developed it yourself you just need to fix the baggage problem and you too will see that you can succeed with as little as 52% strike rate return that most of you are achieving but you blow it because of the baggage.
    Good luck
    Cheers
     
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  14. Ordinary_people

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    I know baccarat.

    But the apps in the playstore to download. Example : dragon ace baccarat

    Thats not the game in real casino, right ?
    Because i see the logo like level, current rank, gold, etc
     
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  15. Punkcity

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    Yes that is correct, the app is dragon ace, you can store your games there .
    Dragon ace also runs a free online baccarat you can practice on 1/2 price tables or commissions tables, will give you a history of your games/ hands played and your % strike rate plus your end of day bank balance. It is an ok site

    I don’t endorse or promote that site just passing on information. Cheers good luck
     
  16. Punkcity

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    I put this here as I did not want to hijack that other thread.


    Jimske I have played many thousands of hands on rng as per this thread various pages stated. As you are aware I’m an advocate of rng stadium play baccarat so here are a couple of thoughts on your questions in quote.

    The older style rng machine ( usually depicted by NO pairs betting and older fuzzy graphics) is a bit questionable as to fairness. You can gauge it by playing two machines ( one machine banker bet and the other player bet at same time) simultaneously and count the up tick in tie frequencies if any. Usually do the test if you know you are the ONLY one playing on that bank of machines

    ( means no one else is playing in the immediate machine area of that software)

    The newer versions have the pairs betting and crisper newer graphics and generally purple in colour. These new machines are the ones I look for and played prior to Covid shutdown . As per my statement this thread citing various examples I have had near to zero adverse results on these machines due to perceived bias on the software.

    Please note these are in star casinoverse in skipptophia and I have NO experience in any casinoverse in any other countrytopia . I have received photo of a few rng machines from Las Vegastopia and they do appear different to the one’s here.

    Of the two models here ( new ones ) one start the screen on left hand side with a player resulting as the first hand and the other starts with the banker results as the first hand on the screen of the two I usually play the banker starting screen. That would only be because it was the one I started with and when I play the player started machine I just personally feel weird.

    On the non casinoverse site that offers the new machine here in skipptophia ( clubs, pubs) they have a lower max bet of $100 , I have found those locations are not so unbiased and “ seem” to me to take your money at the higher bet range more often than not. In this situation I believe the smaller club has a lesser margin for profit than a fully fledged casinoverse and the software is set accordingly , my opinion only. In knowing this if I do play at these sites( due to area Covid lockdown or people limited areas etc which has and had made star casinoverse off limits to me at various time throughout last two years ) it’s in the $10 flat bet range . That $ range usually makes me think why bother with that venue and I rarely play there.

    So as to the venue you play at can be the deciding factor, is it a big casinoverse with many rng machines ( assume less risk of biased hands against you) or a small venue with very limited rng machines (of the older generation software ) then I would find the price range that seems to me to be the bias threshold ( assuming a 10% of max bet being the threshold) . In my opinion it can be done under those circumstances but it’s a huge grind at minimum pay with maximum self imposed rules of play.

    But at 20 seconds turnarounds you can still make a hard earned $50 an hour.

    As a side note the photo/ videos I have received of Las Vegastopia machines i most likely wouldn’t play .

    Another aspect one could also ask oneself and this is a question I really did put to myself at the start of attempts of playing the rng software for the first time is this
    Is the software rng really biased against me OR do I have an inferior bet selection criteria? Is the loss a machine generation loss or is my method faulty? If I didn’t know I was betting on a machine and I was only using referring to my notes and I DIDNT know I was about to place my next bet on a machine( I called the bet out and someone other than myself placed a bet somewhere) and it lost would I still harbour a thought that the result was biased towards me and only me. ? ?

    My answer to myself using the machine available to me was no.

    No
    I can’t see the bias directed solely at me at the unit denomination . A loss I concluded that the method I employed at that point in time was no longer functioning. I now need to decide to quit the session now, perhaps pause for a few hands , or continue to play and see if in fact the shoe becomes conducive to my method. If it continues to lose and at a certain time ( usually a unit value) I will leave the machine and take a break.

    I understand that the shoe/ session be it a live table, a live stadium or a rng stadium setup CANNOT continuously be InSync with my particular bet selection criteria. It must go out of Sync at some stage, it has too.

    So this out of Sync can either be misconstrued as a rng biased against my play method or I can accept the fact based on the knowledge that my particular selection criteria is second to none, I have supreme CONFIDENCE in my selection criteria and at this particular point in time it’s not working in this session.

    I know that in live play dealer dealt shoes my selection criteria hit and miss ratio goes through the same ebbs and flows as the rng software.

    My responsibility is to myself, I have learnt to not blame outside influences , that dealer is unlucky for me , that table position is not good for me , the shuffle machine is using an anti punkcity shuffle code against me , the rng machine is targeting my bets. Side note I’m referring to playing the newer version of rng in a large casinoverse environment not the older rng in smaller venues as for reasons stated.

    I have mentioned this thread playing 300 to 600 plus hands continuously ( numerous occasions to quantify my selection criteria) on a rng machine , I have paper bet 600 plus continuous numerous time initially and I could and did map the ebb and flow of won and lost bets. Apart from quantum theory kicking in the rng software could not have the knowledge of my next paper bet and so could not decide to make it a winner or loser selected bet. It lost , the , my selection criteria lost that hand. My decision now, leave , pause or continue to bet.

    Cheers
     
  17. Punkcity

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    Ok I moved this here as same same not wanting to hijack that other thread.

    In reference to the changes in the four roads per the rng machine you play or quoted above.

    Two simple explanation
    A) the software is from an old machine

    Please note I forgot to mention in the above post this thread by me that the glitch in the roads is also an indicator that the software version is old, you quite correctly read what was displayed, made your assumption that you require to quantify your bet selection, you make the bet it loses yet the data downstairs suggests your correct then the data downstairs changes.

    On the old live dealer TABLE screen software it used to give the conflicting data also , so too the earlier version of live dealer stadium.

    Once you KNOW that a particular rng, live table, and or live stadium is giving you conflicting data results dosnt mean you can’t continue playing .

    I found these quirks and glitches years ago and as mentioned this thread almost gave up on that all.

    ****Please note this is not a promotional for another site or business ****

    I managed to come across an app called “dragon casino scoreboard” it allows you to punch in your game that you are currently playing or have played or watched etc. I tested this for all the occasions that in my workbook that the table software or rng software glitched out on me ( I marked the play at the time as I should have won etc, I wanted to know how to correct it etc) it DID NOT glitch at the same spot OR ever.

    Now when I play I RELY SOLELY on the data generated by the scoreboard app on my phone or tablet. Remember I’m playing half price banker and flat betting those glitches were costing me a percentage point.

    My recommendation download the app. You will have a much better strategy/ strike rate, I recall I mentioned this to you some time ago. It may take a few practice time to incorporate it into your record keeping plus play style, maybe paper bet the practice session until one gets the notation down pat.

    Also it is supplied by the same company that Steven put me onto for free online baccarat, I didn’t know that initially, thanks yet again Steve. Cheers

    B) and this could be a likelihood also

    The casinoverse that’s supplying the screen driven record be it live , rng , or online can be deliberately glitching the data. It is in their interest to do so and that I have a extremely firm belief in as posted to you previously. If that’s the case it shouldn’t matter as you should be running all your current play through the app suggested. Cheers
     
  18. Jimske

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    Thanks for the comments.

    I have the Scoreboard app. Good idea to use it to double check. There are no real time constraints on the RNG so that's not an issue. I tend to write in the Roads myself on my scorecard and play off of that anyway. But. . . it was the Main Road that changed after the fact (see pics) which bothered me and made me wonder if they are or could change the outcome based on the bet?

    The last 5 games I didn't see any problems. I have options to play or start 6 games. The feed is unique to each account. I can pick up where I left off no matter how much time transpired or wipe the game and start fresh. Isn't that indicative that it's just a continuous RNG with some arbitrary end shoe cutoff plugged in to the algorithm to replicate a shoe end?

    Furthermore, wouldn't that indicate a bias in live handheld and hand shuffled games? But even so that bias would not be consistent from casino to casino or dealer to dealer. Where I play they use Shufflemaster with one handheld shuffle usually but then I notice sometimes they don't bother with the shuffle on Stadium.

    J
     
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    What scorecard app do you use Jim? That seems like a great way to track at the table just in case. Do they have them for other games such as roulette or craps?
     
  20. Jimske

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    Baccarat Scorecard by Gamespring and I don't know what else they ahve.
     
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