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Baccarat Stadium play 2019 February to August

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Punkcity, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. cps10

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    Thank you. I just got it. No other score trackers
     
  2. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    this allows you to enter the game at hand be it live table, live stadium or rng stadium. It is in my opinion 100% accurate and only YOUR inaccurate data input can create an error. I use it on iPhone and iPad and only get a pop up add at the very beginning of days/ session use. I have been told by other that on Android phones you get many pop up adds and is annoying.
    You can also go to the dragon site and join up and play free online baccarat, you can choose to play by yourself or with whoever is at the table worldwide.

    That site now offers roulette and blackjack, I have not used those games as I’m purely interested in maintaining an accurate history of games played ( baccarat) and true percentage strike rate and so I don’t want to muddy the pool of results by wins or losses from completely different games.
    I’m listed there as punkcity and if you care too check out my current strike rate ( hands played win and lost =% ) , bankroll and win streak (13) .

    Once again it’s not an endorsement of that site but I do suggest it as a site to test, practice and or play as it is close to real life as you can get for free.
    Cheers
     
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  3. Punkcity

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    My edit

    I have seen this happen plenty of times at the star casinoverse live stadium baccarat and at the live dealer tables. When I have voiced an opinion to the dealer or supervisor that the last few entries are INCORRECT, incredibly on more than one occasion have said that past results really don’t matter so any mistaken data result entry is a moot point.

    Technically correct if I’m only following the main road, or I’m supposedly just guessing as they assume we all are.

    This voicing of opinion on my part at least to them that they have posted incorrect information actually stopped after a few times after a couple pit bosses I was friendly with started to really question me as to why it was so important to me. To me the penny quickly dropped and I clammed up .
    As I’m sure in my own mind if they understood exactly how, what, when and why I personally need “correct data entries” they would purposely remove the Macau software from the casinoverse. My opinion only.
    Prior to my clamming up On other occasions I have mentioned the mistakes of data entry to the dealer and the majority of them would change/correct the last entry or entries and say my bad or apologies etc.

    The data entry was and in some parts of the casinoverse here is still a manual entry. On the majority of tables here now the shufflemaster has an onboard card reader and negates taxing the already moronic dealer thought process more than is necessary. Lol. But errors still occur. Lol.

    This leads me back to a comment I continuously make being I’m completely responsible for my own actions. When it comes to reducing the error rate in trying to achieve my maximum strike rate it is MY duty to not take at face value any or all results posted on ANY screen in the casinoverse factory floor. As list above and from years of personal experience I have noted incorrect data results posted in sic bo, roulette and baccarat due to human error or machine errors ( dirty sensors , faulty number readers etc) SO it is MY JOB to ensure a level playing field as I can manage to protect those slim percentage points I need as a flat bettor. The use of a tool such as the scoreboard app is a example.

    Plus of course the many other rules I imposed on my play.

    Cheers.
     
  4. Punkcity

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    Are you talking rng stadium play this paragraph or the scoreboard app? If it rng stadium play then yes I believe that there is an algorithm that replicates an end of shoe scenario . Here in skipptophia casinoverse and club town as mentioned previously the rng screen has 38 down columns starting with a bank or player result depending on the version of machine. More often than not ( perhaps 90% of the time) when the screen is full all 38 down columns, all down columns are only 6 results deep, are in work mode depending on the outcome being anything from 1 player to max 6 player in that VERY LAST screen column ( infinity ties in that last column does not that a result square as only the player results is square filling) BEFORE the screen changes to allow more results.

    This is in my opinion a de facto “end of shoe” algorithm scenario.

    To use 3 screen shots as an example. We will call them 1. , 2 and 3. for further discussion purposes.


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    photo 1 February 23 Rd 2021 , Oasis room casinoverse.

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    photo 2 session continued

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    photo 3 end discussion.


    Discussion photo 1.
    you will note far left on screen (just)
    43 banker
    34 player
    8 tie.
    total hands 85 tie including
    roughly a real shoe result ish. This is about the 90% average mentioned above
    note the right hand side of photo the blank columns unfilled 8 columns, the ten columns start at the last long bank drop column then the player beside it on the right.

    Refer photo 2
    Here we see the screen columns completely filled top line at least.
    note the left hand of photo
    Banker 51
    Player 43
    Tie 11
    Total hands 105 ties including.
    ( one can denote a “ potential” shoe hack here to chase the inevitable bank result that must come , you people are smart , work it out )
    Note there’s only 26 actual banker or player ( from a maximum of 60 available square, 10 columns by 6 squares deep =60 results, tie not included) hands dealt at this stage in the last ten columns of the screen , ties not included. Photo 2 the total ten column from the last 8 banker drop backwards starting with the column of 2 player to the left is just 20 bank or player results, tie not included. Food for thought.

    Here we are either going to on player long drop to change the screen or it will be a banker result ( tie no impact on column depth) the banker result will be the reset of screen for the forward momentum of infinite rng play.

    Note photo 3
    The result was a bank , the screen changed to allow the next ten columns ( headed by the just completed result of bank) to play the rng shoe
    Note left hand of screen
    Banker 35
    Player 35
    Tie 11 , still
    Total hands 81. Roughly a standard shoe result. Ie 90% of the time.

    Of course on rare occasions you get a whole screen of ping pong with a couple of drops here and there for a total screen shoe count in the 50s . I have witnessed a few 120 hands plus but are very rare before the screen catches up and reverts to the ten blank column “ New Shoe” scenario of rng.

    Side note, there are a number of potential hacks that can be incorporated into your game by just studying a number of screen changes of a period of time. I will not volunteer anymore potential hacks apart from already posted here this post , so don’t inquire as I will not elaborate.

    So
    Yes in my opinion the rng does try to incorporate a “end of shoe” aspect to its game, and it can be used to my benefit in my opinion.

    *** please note this is only my opinion based on rng machine for real money here in skipptophia ONLY, as this is my experience here. ****

    Was a lot to re read so hopefully it makes sense in context .
    Cheers
     
  5. cps10

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    The “moronic” dealer blast had me laughing here at work. I might look like the moron for that! Haha

    Thanks for the laugh today PC. And I do agree with your posts about the scorecard.
     
  6. mansi19896

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    Punkcity do you think you can be same successful in roulette EC also. You see results there even more fast
     
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    A good read! thanks Punkcity!

    It was interesting reading your explanation of how B and P are just the vehicle for you placing a bet and that you derive your bets from the roads.

    Similarly, I find better opportunities away from B and P, a slight difference however is that I created my own artificial roads. It keeps me on my toes because there is a bit of bookkeeping involved but that's a small price to pay for the results I get. Playing the way I do has also given me a good appreciation of the way Junket King approached things MM wise and reading between the lines, it appears that Jacob Blaze was doing something similar. It's always good to see others enjoying success and if the approach is similar to our own, it inspires a bit of confidence.

    Thanks again!
     

  8. Punkcity

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    Yes ,unequivocally . You can use the suggested staking application and principal of this thread and you fully understand reading random method then you will succeed. It’s not a sprint race, just be methodical and disciplined. Cheers
     
  9. Punkcity

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    The thread objective was not JUST to use my particular selection criteria but more along the lines of the various tips to increase your ability to make money. Any select criteria that give you more than 50% plus some of the tips this thread = you win. Cheers
     
  10. mansi19896

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    well i asked because i once in rng roulette i was able to get ahead +280 flat betting not taking every spin, but following randomness. stop loss ofcourse with -7 and evantually it all dropped back to zero while i didnt felt i did any mistakes. I dont know does it depend where you play some rng-s where you play works and it may not work in somewhere else or what was the issue
     
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    but why not use roulette rng where you see results within second by spinning yourself? you can save even more time
     
  12. Lousy Gambler

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    First of all, great thanks to Punkcity for creating this thread.

    I've gambled in casinos off and on for the past 38 years and it started with strictly blackjack until the automatic shuffling machines came along. So, I rarely play that game anymore.

    Then, I've played Pai Gow Poker and Asia Poker which I don't anymore either if it's the automatic numbering system for selecting the starting hand position as I feel it's rigged 100% since the shuffling machine knows exactly what every hand is and the numbering system is wired directly to the shuffling machine. If they use dice as the starting position selector, then I still play sometimes but those setups are rare in the Atlantic City casinos.

    Then, about 2 years ago, I learned Pai Gow Tiles as it's always the dice shake that decides who gets the tiles first so it cannot be rigged. I fared pretty well with that game until I saw this thread started by Punkcity and it got my interest as I do play baccarat sometimes.
    I've now read this thread multiple times and created my own bet selection criteria which uses the bottom 3 boards (Big Eye Boy, Small Road, and Cockroach Pig) which I never did before playing baccarat.
    I am in the process of trying out what I learned from this thread in the Atlantic City casinos at the $100 minimum tables. Bally's pretty much has 10+ (up to 20) $100 minimum live tables open at any given time and the next door Caesars has less but a comparable number of tables open as well, so I can just walk around and look for a trend, sit, and ride that trend until it's over. Then, repeat the same thing, but it is very time consuming as I don't bet unless there is a trend that I like and these players at live tables take forever to play hands.

    Downside is that 1/2 the tables are reserved and many tables are full so even if there is a trend I like a lot on a table, I cannot jump into it. Obviously, this isn't a problem with the Stadium game which Borgata has.
    Seeing how I have practically lived in the Atlantic City casino hotels for the past 2 years straight except for 1 month trip to Vegas last August, I wish I would have seen this thread sooner as I had the opportunity to try what I'm doing now and if it turns out that it works then I would owe everything to the Op.

    Sorry for the long post.
     
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    The reason why my handle is "Lousy Gambler" is because I know what I should do in gambling and yet I can't seem to do it for whatever the reason. In 38 years, I haven't fixed it so I have some sort of mental block or not enough discipline.
     
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    I jumped in won several hundreds following the single chop on the Cockroach Pig board towards the back end of that run before it bent on the next hand which then I stopped to get breakfast for my kids. It was interesting because if I stayed at the table, I would have continued to bet as if it's still the single chop on the Cockroach Pig board and I would have won more, but I would have been betting against the whole table as they all lost 3 in a row after the bend. It made me wonder what they were looking at to bet what they were betting.
     

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    Earlier I posted what happened this morning at Bally's casino in Atlantic City playing $100 minimum baccarat and it's on hold pending the moderator's review, so I'm just re-posting differently without the image link to an external website hoping that it doesn't get held up this time around.

    I saw a single chop trend on the Cockroach Pig board on a table, so I sat down and started betting it after it was already more than 1/2 way through the run. I stopped when it went to 2 chaos, i.e. 2 blue sticks in the last column of the picture and still made several hundreds.

    I got up to get breakfast for my kids, but I watched the table for a bit more and everyone on the table lost 3 in a row when it went 2 chaos, 2 predictable (2 red sticks), and then right back to the single chop run again. If I kept on betting as if it was still the single chop run which is what I do normally for at least once when the trend breaks, then I would have made even more but it would have been an uncomfortable situation as I would have been betting against the whole table.

    It made me wonder what they were looking at to bet what they were betting, but then I realized that if I hadn't learn what I learned looking at the bottom three boards because of this thread, I most likely bet what the whole table was betting and lost with them as all I looked at was the Bead Plate and Main Road only. Not anymore.
     
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    This is just a test to see what way would prevent the spam filter from holding my posts when uploading an image with it.
     

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    Well, two of my posts are on hold because of the spam filter not liking the external link to imgur for my picture.

    Below is what I said in my 2nd attempt to post with a picture. When and if the moderator approves my previous post(s), then you will probably see duplicates so I apologize in advance for that.

    "Earlier I posted what happened this morning at Bally's casino in Atlantic City playing $100 minimum baccarat and it's on hold pending the moderator's review, so I'm just re-posting differently without the image link to an external website hoping that it doesn't get held up this time around.

    I saw a single chop trend on the Cockroach Pig board on a table, so I sat down and started betting it after it was already more than 1/2 way through the run. I stopped when it went to 2 chaos, i.e. 2 blue sticks in the last column of the picture and still made several hundreds.

    I got up to get breakfast for my kids, but I watched the table for a bit more and everyone on the table lost 3 in a row when it went 2 chaos, 2 predictable (2 red sticks), and then right back to the single chop run again. If I kept on betting as if it was still the single chop run which is what I do normally for at least once when the trend breaks, then I would have made even more but it would have been an uncomfortable situation as I would have been betting against the whole table.

    It made me wonder what they were looking at to bet what they were betting, but then I realized that if I hadn't learn what I learned looking at the bottom three boards because of this thread, I most likely bet what the whole table was betting and lost with them as all I looked at was the Bead Plate and Main Road only. Not anymore."
     
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    Perhaps that will change now. Reason being in the past you didn’t have a plausible selection criteria and you were possibly conditioned to losing on a regular basis. Example don’t matter what I selected I generally lose therefore it doesn’t matter what I do I lose.

    Now perhaps you maybe be able to readjust that mindset and apply some of the principles, suggestions and tips from this thread to fit into you and possibly change any unwanted traits that may intern lead you to making more profits and bet in a professional manner.
    Good luck. Cheers
     
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    Forget about the rest of the table they don’t know. They don’t pay for your expenses. Brutal I know but fuck them , especially if they criticise you for betting against them and you are winning. Fuk that. Have you thought they actually may change and follow you because you are constantly winning? Also I wouldn’t mention how you decided next hand to them as the casinoverse will change the game board eventually etc. you keep it as your own personal secret. Cheers
     
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    I have no idea what my future holds playing baccarat with the knowledge I gained from this thread, but I cannot thank you enough for creating this thread.

    My very old parents have been playing baccarat for 12 years ever since they retired in 2010 and they never knew how to read the bottom three derived roads. I've been explaining to my dad about those boards just recently and we cannot wait to play together when he is back to Atlantic City in about 2 weeks. They will be staying for 3 weeks, so that's a plenty of time to give it a shot with what we learned.

    Before this, our bet selection was strictly based on the Main Road and sometimes Bead Plate but none of the derived roads.
     

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