Baccarat Stadium play 2019 February to August

If that worked all the time, then we would all be rich, no?

If that betting logic worked more than not, then it means we have a fail proof betting method all around; whether it be trends or total chaos.

Honestly, doing that could lead to zig zagging in the wrong direction if your timing is bad and lead to even more losses.

I think the best option is to just stop betting when losing badly because of the chaotic Main Road or any other boards and just wait for another day or another time.

I was down to the casino briefly just now to go for a walk to wake me up from falling asleep and the players (all 6 of them) who were up thousands on a long 2 banker-3 player chop trend had practically nothing left. One man who had the most wasn't even there anymore.

I guess the longer you play and vary the bet sizes like they were all doing instead of flat betting, you can be doomed when you run into a total chaos and don't stop betting when the losses mount. They were so happy not even an hour ago.

The woman who had $20,000+ is no longer there either. The way she was betting, I suppose she could have won HUGE and left, but I highly doubt it. These people don't know when to quit; they quit only when they lose everything.

One man I see all the time here at Bally's and plays with a rather big bankroll of $50,000+ didn't have much left either on his reserved table; I saw only like 5 oranges in his hand. He is pretty good player from what I've seen and I never saw him do the martingale betting, but tonight wasn't his night and his board had absolutely no trends whatsoever. He was walking around looking at various tables earlier tonight, but I guess he decided to stick with his original reserved table and obviously that wasn't a good choice as he lost badly too.

I've seen it like this where there are just no trends anywhere in the whole pit which then leads to nothing but a guessing game and total luck of the draw. Then the variance just gets you I guess. Flat betting and walking away would fix that problem.

Now, I really have to try finishing my work...

At the moment, it's a wishful thinking that my job is playing baccarat only and I don't have to work a normal job, but I can always dream of it though.

 

It's like a lot of things, it can work in some part of the shoe or in Roulette, it may be working in one of the 3 different EC streams.
All I will say is that it's good to have the idea in the back of your mind. When shoes are in chaos mode, as players, the more information we have, the better as far as I am concerned because then it's easier to navigate.

You could use the information to decide what MM you are going to use. Lot's of players like parlays but what use would a 12 neg progression be with the following?

L
W
L
L
L
W
L
L
L
W
L
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W
L
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L

Real time info is important and having it all figured out before you hit the tables can help you maintain your composure.

 

Yes agreed, when in doubt stay out.
My example was not to enable a “gambler” mentality to creep into your game. It was to give you ( generic you ) an out of the box thought , I mentioned during thread numerous exit points plus explanations as to why one should quit a session, bearing in mind the protocol was and always is bankroll protection. Etc etc. the example was not explained I suppose as a one off event, being you lost 3 or 4 in a row yes one can exit at that point or take one more shot and put the posted strategy in play for one hand, you win that you can exit or try again.

From the thread I mentioned I have played many thousands of hands this selection criteria I use. I have played 100 hands plus straight continuously, I have played 3 hands and exits. Etc. The point being I have experienced many things and the mentioned post is just another tool I have at my disposal. I should qualify that I don’t use it all the time, the use is determined by actual losses for the session or profit for the session etc.

The purpose of this thread was a basic introduction using my criteria but mainly a introduction of ideas of flat betting , managing the incremental increase of bankroll to increase the bet unit sizing, plus suggestions of game play exits etc. There are a number of things I do that has not been mentioned INITIALLY in this thread as at the time it would have been too much information, too much side tracking requiring too many other explanations that could confuse the initial objective.
My error here could be I mentioned this and it may not be easily understood by members here . I perhaps should have not muddied this thread but should have started a new thread because this can confuse new readers to this thread. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers

 

baccarou,

Are you consistently winning in baccarat? Are you a lifetime winner in that game?

I haven't played much of baccarat at all until I saw this thread and honestly I don't really even remember how I ran into this thread, but I do know that this thread has completely changed my mind set about casino gambling where I need to focus solely on baccarat and nothing else. Whether that's going to work in my favor or not, I don't know yet but I can only hope that it will.

For whatever the reason, I believe Punkcity 100%. I wish I could duplicate his success but that remains to be seen as what's in his head is not in my head and I can't do what he's doing exactly as is. I know I don't have the discipline that he has or the knowledge that he has gained over the years he has played the game. but I can try to get there whatever it takes or how long ever it takes. I'm a newbie in baccarat but a quick learner so we will see.

I wish my dad was younger, because he is extremely disciplined with so many positive traits to make this thing work. He would be great playing partner to have for a long time, so I better hurry up and make this thing work before it's too late. He's 89 years old but very healthy physically and still with clear mind yet.

 

True
But my preference and bias is to flat bet. Note I do positive increase my flat bet as I hit a win streak. Cheers

 

Absolutely no confusion at all for me and I understand what you said perfectly and they make total sense. Thanks.

Only if I could copy your brain and implement it into my head. LOL

 

Being a novice can be an advantage as you possibly have less ridged bad habits to overcome. My personal previous posted posts state that if one is learning something new and one can completely suspend one’s own preconceived opinion of the subject matter and learn what is presented, you will learn it quickly. Then you can decide if the thing you have learned is worthwhile or not.

I have taught this to a few people and the biggest obstacle is the person( some ) learning hanging on to their own methods that in turn can create conflict in the learning process. They compare what they have known and used to argue against what the new method/ selecting criteria being taught . Suspend the need to promote your ( generic you) non productive method etc. cheers

 

Re read the thread, as there are things there that may need to be read a couple of times. Check some of the posted game play and explanation to that game. Take notes of post numbers for easy reference, all posts are numbered and page numbers also for quick reference. Etc. Cheers

 

This is Punkcity's thread and so I will start my own thread sometime soon in this Baccarat Forum but just to quickly address your question, I can't consider myself a lifetime winner in Baccarat because I only took up the game seriously around 2019 and what with Covid, I have not played as much as I would have liked. On saying that, I am now putting in the hours and doing very well at the game. My strike rate hovers between 55 and 60% and I do believe my style of play will hold up over the medium to long term because of the knowledge I have gained from so many great minds and how I have used that knowledge to put things together.

 

no no it was all good, go ahead, because if not all are explained how it can help to win anyway. The basic stuff are what everyone should know anyway - if they cant handle it they should never even play

 

I just finished my job, so I'm now free to spend more time on this thread to learn more but I have to pack shortly to move to Borgata for 4 days. Then, right back to Bally's for 3 days again and then repeat the cycle. I just wish Borgata had as many baccarat tables as Bally's. They have only 9 total tables and for the most part only like 5 to 6 tables are open at any given time and it's hard to get a seat as they are full mostly.

It's funny you said what you said about overcoming the bad habits and preconceived opinions, because I had a few.

1. I look for players who are losing and bet against them regardless of what's going on with the boards.
2. When I make a bet and someone who is losing follows, I take my bet off.
3. When a side wins by incredibly lucky draw, then I bet that side again.

These work sometimes, but it's nothing but superstitions. I realized none of these really matter and therefore I'm focused on what's said in this thread only.

 

Glad to hear that you are winning, but are you winning like Punkcity?

Also, do you flat bet like Punkcity?

Let me know when you start your own thread and if you are willing to share your strategy then it would be even better, but at the moment I don't see how what Punkcity is teaching can be beat.

 

My edit.
Steady on pilgrim.
This method of selection criteria is NOT infallible. Some days you work extremely hard , other days it’s all sunshine and lollipops but mostly it’s 51+% reliable, if you have patients, etc etc.

Full disclosure whats written in this thread is not the full selection criteria I USE.

I have stated at start of this thread I’m not giving full version of what I exactly do. The reasons have already been posted on first couple of pages this thread.

Lousy gambler thanks for the wrap but it’s not infallible, but it can be a dam good guide to help. Etc. cheers

 

Since I am determined to duplicate your success whether that's going to happen with me or not, I am doing exactly what you suggested.

On my first read, I didn't take any notes and expected my brain to absorb everything and that was foolish.
On my second read, I made notes into a Word document of what I thought was important and came up with a plan.
On this round of re-reading, I am logging everything into an Excel sheet, i.e. page #, post #, and my own brief comment of what's in each post and their importance to me and what posts I can bypass from re-reading in the future if I need to refer back to anything.

I'm surprised that I overlooked some of the posts which contained very valuable information. I probably missed them because some days I was reading when I was very tired and the contents probably went right past my head.

Once I'm done re-reading everything and still have questions about anything, would you mind if I asked them on this thread? At the moment, I do have one question from one of the posts, but you could have already answered it in one of the later posts so I will finish re-reading the whole thread before asking anything. Thanks again.

 

Nice to see some revisit the stadium "plus and minus" play of Punkcity. I will say that unless you understand how he generates the + and - from the main road you're not going to be able to follow what he is trying to teach. If he showed you how he generates them on this thread I didn't see it. If you don't know how he does then you are basically wasting your time.

If you go back to page 4 on this thread he plays over 40 consecutive hands from the same shoe. IMO the main insight is showing that he looks for patterns to either streak or chop. If you follow his "Crack" or "Follow" you might get a better understanding of what he is looking at. To me the wins and losses from C or F can give some good insight.

It appears he hopes the + and - designation derived from the roads will present a greater predominance of either streak or chop then one might see on the main road alone. Here's a picture of what the game looks like. You can compare it to the + and - presentments he includes. Don't forget he is using the roads and the roads do not begin to fill all three roads until the 8th decision on the main road. So maybe you want to look at stuff after the 14th or 15th decisions. Enjoy.

 

Yes this is correct, I have mentioned to lousy gambler that exactly , being I HAVE NOT disclosed the complete process I actually use. The modified version he is looking at is indeed workable and I DO use the process he described occasionally to a workable profit, sometimes it’s ( the lousy gamblers version) just manor from heaven . Once again the thread was to show how to manage a small bankroll to grow it to a sizeable unit bankroll. Flat betting with discipline. Cheers

 

Hi Jimske,

I stumbled onto this thread only recently; probably about a month ago and I've been busy reading it and re-reading it whenever I could find the time.

There's no doubt that you are one of the sharps as Punkcity agreed with what you said in your post #319.

It took me way more time than a day to understand most of it, but I deduced the same as what you said on that post even before I got to reading it. Then, I created a strategy from what I learned and so far it has been working out for me. No losing sessions yet in the past 3 weeks playing probably 7 or 8 times of short bursts; all less than an hour. I don't like playing at live tables as these people take forever to play a hand. I would much prefer to play by myself to get things moving faster, but it's hard to get an open table that's empty.

I'm thankful that Punkcity created this thread as it opened my eyes to a new thing that I wasn't aware of, i.e. using trends on the derived roads besides the Main Road to make bets.

Until now, all I looked at was Bead Plate and Main Road and I wasn't doing bad with it but not doing so great either.

I rarely played baccarat but not anymore as I will focus on playing it only for a foreseeable future.

My only regret is that my parents are very old, 89 for my dad and 85 for my mom, and baccarat is the only game they play ever since they retired 12 years ago and my dad has fared pretty decent but not so much for my mom. As much as I wanted to play with them all those years, I just wasn't that good at it so I would have been no help to them. But now that I know about the derived roads, I cannot wait for their next trip up to AC so I can explain to them what I learned new and see what happens playing together.

 

@Punkcity if you play baccarat according to what happens two other boards then how you can say confidently that you can win same way in roulette when theres only 3 same EC possibilities