Baccarat Stadium play 2019 February to August

So now we use a running bank H+54 units as our daily bank

A09/03/2019_______H+54
B10,C23,D19, E+6,F-13,G-7,H+47
B10, C24,D18,E+9,F-9,G=,H+47
B18,C25,D18,E+14,F-4,G+10,H+57

End of day profit+4 unit
End of day running bank H+57

K=32 minutes

 

Let’s kick on
Carry over running bank H+57

A=10/03/2019_______H+57
B9,C26,D18,E+12,F-6,G+6,H+63,
B11,C27,D19,E+12,F-7,G+5,H+68
B18,C28,D35,E+20,F-15,G+5,H+73
B13,C29,D22,E+15,F-7,G+8,H+81
B10,C30,D25,E+14,F-11,G+3,H+84
B4,C31,D9,E+5,F-4,G+1,H+85
B25,C32,D54,E+31,F-23,G+8,H+93

End of day profit +36 unit
End of day running bank H+93

K= 89 minutes
Cheers

 

—I would say to fully understand what I mean above I would direct you to Jimske post ( re describe the N,O,R, process I use on Macau board )on page 4 of the consistent win baccarat thread by play2win.
He has put into better words than I could manage to best describe my selection criteria using Macau screen.
Cheers

 

Lets continue
Carryover running bank H +93 units

A=11/03/2019________H+93
B07,C33,D15,E+9,F-6,G+3,H+96
B05,C34,D14,E+11,F-3,G+8,H+104
B07,C35,D16,E+9,F-7,G+2,H+106

End of day profit +13 units
End of day running bank H+106

K=19 minutes
cheers

 

Next day another dollar.
Carryover running bank H+106

A=12/03/2019_______H+106
B02,C36,D2,E+1,F-1,G+0,H+106
B13,C37,D26,E+15,F-11,G+3,H+109
B6,C38,D10,E+8,F-2,G+6,H+115
B25,C39D37,E+22,F-15,G+7,H+122

End of day profit +16 units
End of day running bank H+122

K=46 minutes
Cheers

 

Onwards and upwards
Carryover running bank H+122

A=13/03/2019________H+122
B28,C40,D35,E+12,F-23,G-11,H+111
Ouchy ouch that was a one day bank loss, but as we are using the day running bank H we have enough funds on hand to continue. Had we been only using our one of five x ten unit day banks we would have stopped at the ten unit loss rather than 11 units , then we would draw down from the remaining 4 x ten uint and either continued that current game or stopped , take a break and continue later. we took a break as per usual.

B43,C41,D71,E+37,F-24,G+13,H+124

Oooooo money back phew, up two units =$400 for an hours work nice

B30,C42,D36,E19,F-17,G=0,H+124
B26,C43,D30,E+15,F-15,G=0,H+124

End of day profit +2 units
End of day running bank H+124

K=129 minutes

Hard day but still average $191 per hr for the day
Cheers

 

Eat yar heart out Raccoon city
Here's a summary for last 5 days play, that will be followed by a summary of first 5 days and just posted 5 day summary combined.
Lets see how things are going, is a flat betting approach working , are we wasting time and effort for little to no return? Are able to emotionally the draw downs etc etc etc ?

Carryover running bank was +54 units

A= 09/03/2019---13/03/2019 = 5 days
B=total time played =315 minutes / 5:2 hours
C=total games played = 21
D=total hands played=529
E=total hands WON=296
F=total hands LOST=223
G=totalunits +/-, =+70
H=+54 +70=124 units
1/2 price bank wins alter totals, I round 1/2 price units DOWN

This is the 5day averages for 09-13/03/2019
A=5days
B=Average total time played per day=315min/5= 1:04 hours
C=Average total games played per day= 21/5 =4:2 games
D= Average total hands played per day=529/5=105:8 hands
E= Average total hands WON per day=296/5=59:2 hands won
F= Average total hands LOST per day=223/5=44:6 hands lost
G= Average total UNITS WON per day= +70/5= +14 units

Total Average Profit per day =+14 units
Average number of minutes to realise + 1 Unit profit= 4:2 minutes

End of week running bank H+124 units

Here is the combined average for the 10 days posted for March 2019.
Once again it will be in a week one+ week two format of averages posted so far.

A= 01/03/2019----13/03/2019 = 10 days
B=Average total time played=441min+315min=756 minutes=12:6 hours/10 =1:26 hours played per/day
C=Average total games played per day=22+21=43/10= 4:3 games p/d
D=Average total hands played=718+529= 1247/10= 124 hands played p/d
E=Average Hands WON per day=385+296=681/10=68:1 hands won p/d
F=Average hands LOST per day=315+223=538/10=53:8 hands lost p/d
G+H= Average total units won per day =54+70=124/10=12:4 units per day.

Average units Won per hour=+10 units
Average number of minutes to realise + 1 unit profit= 1:01 minutes

Carryover Running Bank H= +124 units

The unit value is $200 per unit [ increased from February $100 betting unit ]

I only FLAT BET
I only play stadium baccarat, 20 seconds to decide per hand
Cheers

 

Lets do a re cap and bring everything up to speed

Remember We are only FLAT BETTING ONE UNIT AT A TIME !!! regardless of the unit size/value we are wagering 1 unit only. Ok good lets continue.

We started flat betting in February,as far as this thread is concerned. We had a starting bankroll of 5 day bankrolls of ten units, each unit IM using is $100. So thats 5 x $100 x TEN units =$5000 or $1000 mini bank per game day x 5
For the month of February I posted play for 21 days. At the end of the month we realised a +234 unit profit which is $23400 that's Excluding the $5000 bankroll we started with. The biggest drawdown was 16 units [$1600 ] over the space of three consecetive days, approx 5 units down per day. That profit was rather healthy so each month that Im in healthy profit I take $5000 from the profit and add that to my Betting Bankroll. This allows me to easily increase my unit size for the next months play , for the month of March my bankroll is $10000 = $200 units x 5 x ten units.

The February account is as follows

Starting total betting Bankroll =$5000
21 days played
Bet unit $100
Profit = +234 units
Month Profit =$23 400

Deduct $5000 from $23 400 = $18 400

Profit held in reserve = $18 400
New March Starting Betting Bankroll = $10 000 [ 5 x 200 x 10 units ]

Now we are in the halfway point of the March posts , we have posted a profit for ten days of +124 units. We have already locked up our initial starting betting Bankroll of $10 000 { thats just my over cautious approach, once my running day bank +H is about 50 to 60 units profit i lock my bankroll up for a rainy day} so we now use the running bank +H to fund the daily betting requirements. No this dosn't mean we will go balls deep and bet crazy

The accounts stand at the moment as such

February reserve profit = $18 400
Locked up Month starting Betting Bankroll = $10 000
March running bankroll + H +124 units x $200 per unit =$24 800

Grand total of all funds held = $18400 +$10000 + $24800 = $ 43 200...... This is just by FLAT BETTING ONE UNIT..
The initial outlay of $5000 starting bankroll has netted me a very safe return of $38 000 for 31 days work at about an hour or so play per day approx.
Why would you martingale, why would you neg progression bet? Yes I did have a -11 unit loss game one day . I guess its boring flat betting but I'm not bored for $1000 per hour work so far this month and a half . As I have been doing this for a while now I can tell you the hourly rate is way better than posted at this juncture.

I only flat bet one unit my betting unit for march is $200
I only play stadium 20 second baccarat
Cheers

 

Just a quick clarification when I say I'm flat betting that's all im doing, yes when I happen to hit a winning streak I do increase the flat bet unit by a %. That percentage will vary as to what the booked in profit is for the days play. I do capture extra profit where possible as per a post I posted on another thread started by play2win.

For the ease of posting on this thread, as I initially thought I would have needless questions asking how the numbers didnt add up. SO I left all reporting on the stadium activity as a REAL FLAT UNIT BASE BETTING, as I havnt listed every shoes machinations I didnt want to get bogged down in explaing I increased % bet here or there etc. The other reason to post about flat betting is that it actually does work all you have to do is tighten up your selection criteria. Thats my honest opinion only.
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Here we go next day.
Carryover running bank H+124 units

A=15/03/2019________H+124
B15,C44,D22,E+12,F-10, G+2,H+126
B22,C45,D47,E+29,F-18,G+11,H+137
B65,C46,D91,E+46,F-45,G+=,H+137
B10,C47,D18,E+14,F-4,G+10,H+147
B05,C48,D6,E+5,F-1,G+4,H+151

End of day profit +27 units
End of day running bank H+151

K=117 minutes
cheers

 

Here is the actual game C45 played , Iam starting the run using the ten unit bank deducted from my carryover running bank H+126 =126-10=H+115, The H+115 is in standby and readily aviable to me to draw upon at a moments notice, if and when needed.
WE ARE ONLY BETTING ONE UNIT PER BET ..THE WIN UNIT WILL BE ADDED TO THE G+ Total and THE LOSS UNIT WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THE G+Total. So the G +/- total will be the only indication of unit bet per hand.

symbols used as per usual are as follows

O= bank RESULT
X= payer RESULT
W= WIN
L =LOSS
1/2W = BANK HALLF PRICE WIN
C = CRACK LAST DECISION
F = FOLLOW LAST DECISION

Macau screen symbOL
+ = trend indicator
- = no trend indicator

I will try this format to set game play out
RESULT[O OR X], MACAU indicator [ + OR - ], Bet result [ W=WIN , L= loss] G+/- running game bank progressive total.
C [ crack last macau decision] F [ follow last macau decision ]
15/03/2019
C45, D47 hands
Game bank = G+10
X, +, NO BET, arrived at table, set up game bank
O, +, NO BET, observe whats happening, bet next hand
X, +, W, G+11, lokking to continue +F indicator
X , -, L, G+10, + F indicator fail
X , +, W, G+11, TRY FOR C -,
X , +, L , G+10, -C, INDICATOR FAIL
O, - ,W , G+11, - C ,W
X , +, W, G+12, +C ,W
X, -, W, G+13, - C ,W
O , -, L , G+12, + C ,FAIL,
Chose to continue rather than end game at 2 units up.
X , - , L ,G+11, +C, FAIL,
O ,+ , L, G+10, - F, FAIL,
O, -, W, G+11, - C, W
X, - , L , G+10, +C, FAIL,
O, +, W,G+11,+ C, W
X ,+, L, G+10, - C , FAIL,
O , +, L, G+9, -C, FAIL,
O, - , L, G+8, +F, FAIL
O ,+, W, G+9, +C,W
X, - , W, G+10, - C, W
X , - , L, G+9, + C FAIL,
O , - , L, G+8, + C FAIL,
X , - ,W, G+9, - F, W
O , - , W, G+10, - F,W,
O , - ,W, G+11, - F ,W
O ,+ , L, G +10, - ,F, FAIL
O ,+, L, G +9, - C , FAIL
X, - , L , G+8, + F, FAIL
O , +, W, G+9, + C, W
O , - , W, G+10, - , C, W
O , + ,W, G+11, + ,C, W
TIE= NO W, NO LOSE G+11
TIE= NO WIN , NO LOSE G+11
X , - , W, G+12, - C,W,
X , + ,W, G+13, + ,C, W
O , - , W, G+14, - ,C, W,
CHOSE TO CONTINUE PLAY, but will now stop at G+12 units, therefor locking up 2 units profit,
X , - , L, G+13, + ,C, FAIL,
X , +, W,G+14, + ,C,W,
X , + , L ,G+13, - ,C,FAIL
O , - ,W , G+14 , - ,C,W
O , +, W, G+15, +, C,W
X , - ,W,G+16, - , C,W,
TIE = NO WIN NO LOSE ,G+16
X , + , W, G+17, + ,C, W,
O , - , W, G+18, - , C,W,
X , - ,L, G+17, + , C, FAIL,
X , + , W, G+18, +, C, W
X , - ,W ,G+19, - ,C, W
Chose to continue play, will end game at next hand loss, motive= lock up MIN +8 UNIT profit, keep actual time play to reasonable limit
X , + , W, G+20, +, C,W ,
O , - ,W, G+21, - ,C, W,
O , + ,W, G+22, + ,C, W
O , +, L, G +21, - ,C, FAIL

You will notice the three ties are not included in the D 47 hand total as per usual

G+21units = 11 units profit, [ $2200 ] Flat bet @$200 per unit time played= 22 minutes

Martingale = 28 units profit [ $5600 ] four stage marty required, $1600 largest outlay, lucky no half price banker wins.
Ladder bet = 28 units profit { $5600 }add one unit up per loss, subtract one unit down after each win etc, I think the largest draw down was about $1200 or 6 units. This is a stadium baccarat screen game of 20 second decision making, sometimes the amount of time required to make a decision and load the correct bet amount as per whatever betting progression your using can result in you making a mistake.
Example,
The largest denomination on the screen is $100, during marty bet is a bit simplier to load as opposed to ladder bettor ,with marty bet $400 loss, hit re bet on screen then quickly tap out another 4 x $100 = $800, lose again hit re bet again , quickly make your decision then this time tap out another 8 x $100 bets to get $1600 bet requirment, oops made a mistake you tapped out one or two extra hundred dollars , ie bet on screen is now $1800 --- you cannot reduce by $200 . You have to clear the bet and start again, Oh did I mention you only have 20 seconds, now you try that with a ladder bet and you last bet is $3200 , you win now you have to tap out $3000 = 30 x $100 bets , you have a practice at home with that, then also factor some fool sitting beside you complaining to you about their bad day or the try to just be social, or the crazy extra loud casino announcements , or your host wanting to catch up , then theres your mobile phone going off like crazy etc etc blar blar. Thats a huge small 20 seconds no margin for error. This is another reason I flat bet , win hit re call, lose hit re call . etc
Was actually a good shoe , very stress free in my opinion.

END of game as this last hand was next loss stoppage decision. yes we could continue on, etc.

So we have the game line result as previously posted but we will post again
B22,C45,D47,E+29, F-18,G+11, H+137
Cheers

 

Thanks for the posts, interesting what a good bet selection and flat bet can do.. congrats on finding a winning system for you and thanks for.sharing, how do you determine when to stop playing it doesn't seem like you have a stop win or stop loss per shoe/visit/trip more of a time limit?? Play 20-30 minutes and then mental break?

 

Thanks your welcome.
I try not to have a preconceived idea in my head as to how much profit I want to make per game or day. The reason being that in the past i used to have the attitude that I’m bulletproof, I’m supremely confident in what I’m trying to do at a table, I expect to win x amount of money per shoe. I can vividly remember as I drove into the casino thinking how much I want to make per shoe, per hour etc. The problem with that ( for me at least ) is that it can force you to play a shoe that is not favouring you play style, for lack of a better word. I would say 8 times out of 10 I would be in a huge losing position because I’m try to fit a square peg into a round hole. I know that I can win, as you can see by my posts this thread, I would often remark to other players at a table (after they have seemingly chastised me for playing against the table or they are betting against me because they see I’m on a run of loses)that ‘ I expect to win , I know I will win where as THEY only hope to win.
—Yes in those days I used to switch between mini martingale or a one up one down progression . I will also freely admit I was influenced by a good friend of mine that every shoe had to be a profit regardless of how much of a drawdown you had to use to achieve it. Can be very costly to have an end of a shoe and be down. You take unnecessary risks from that point on. Etc etc. I have posted elsewhere the thought process that led me to flat bet, so I won’t bore you all further, this thread and gr8’s thread and play2win, soxfan threads recently if you care to look.
—I play stadium as it’s continually dealing non stop, as you can see from posted games many games are +1, 2 or 3 units . Sometimes I’ll play for 3 minutes and be up 4 units lose one bet and decide that +3 unit is emu, take a break. Other times I will be at a loss for the first hand played and yo yo at -3,+1,-1,=,-1,+1,+2,=/+or -1. Usually if that’s the case and I’ve been playing 10 - 20 or even minutes and I’m =,-1,-2 or +1 or 1/2 a unit down I’ll take a break . Once again that’s just telling me square peg round hole for what I’m doing.
—Yes I can stop playing on a loss of -3,-4,-5 for a game the time span can range from 2 minutes to 60 minutes for a game. At 60 minutes and I’m still playing is usually because I’m mentally alert , or I’m having fun and not to far up or down on that particular game. On occasions I have been down -10 units after twelve or fifteen hands ( nothing is going right) and I decide that I can bring back five units I’ll play to 60/70/80 minutes straight depending on mental alertness and finish game at = or down a couple of units, usually there has been a lot of half price bankers and I’ve actually won more hands than losing but the 1/2 price is a cost. Also even though I’ve been down , then back to even I can still play on to end up at -7, or -13 for that game, I can stop take a break refresh.
—With that in mind-7etc I can play on with a streak as that is the aim and capture the +10,+15,+20 unit then stop on a last loss and be up + x units whatever , regardless of time played, regardless of being up or down for the day. But I usually do set a trailing profit stop if on on a good game re above posted game play breakdown. As an example That particular game has just been responsive to my bet selection criteria. From my experience with what I do I seem to play conservative, content to take the +1,+2,+5 unit on offer in short time spans. I’m mindful of the streaks I get and play until it ends , usually immediately regardless of +/- for day. Iam also confident enough to be at a day loss of -x units because I know I’ll get it back as per previous posts posted this thread.
To answer your question and sorry it’s dragged on, but No .
—No set predetermined profit or stop loss but rather a general sense of how the day games are unfolding, how I’m mentally alert or not, am I physically ok today , and what time of day it is that I’m at the casino. After 5pm the gamblers, dinner parties etc arrive and the place gets more chaotic I generally leave to go home regardless of +/- units for day. The biggest asset I have at my disposal is that I don’t have a preconceived idea of how much I want to win but I let that particular game dictate what it does with no expectations from me. No square pegs.
Cheers

 

Just to follow on with the no predetermined profit approach I now use. I remember setting a target years ago as I would play that way and after a hardish day at the high limits table , I had nearly reached my target. I used to try and fund all expenses to that days session , petrol costs , bridge tolls , tips, meal costs and still hit target. So this day is pretty much seared into my memory. After taking all expenses into account, having recovered my starting bank and deducted costs from target profit I find I’m short of target by $5 . Easy I say, one $100 bet win and gone . I mean I came back from behind already,no problem. Right?
—-Shoot for $5 ,I ended up spending another 8 hours on a high limit table . Gave back the profit plus half my daily bankroll and had to pay all expenses out of my own pocket. So from then on plus other reasons I came to realise a bit over an amount predetermined can also be as dangerous as a bit under the amount. Setting a profit target can be misleading.
Cheers

 

Ok onwards and upwards
—Our day continues with carryover running bank H+151

A=17/03/2019_______H+151
B16,C49,D28,E+16,F-12,G+4,H+155
B27,C50,D40,E+26,F-14,G+12,H+167

K=43 minutes

End of day profit +16 units
End of day running bank H +167
Cheers

 

Carry over running bank H+167

A=19/03/2019________H+167

B12,C51,D17,E+12,F-5,G+7,H+174
B13,C52,,D20,E+11,F-9,G+2,H+176
B15,C53,D20,E+16,F-4,G+12,H+188

End of day profit +21 units
End of day running bank H +188

K=40 minutes.
Cheers

 

Carryover running bank H+188

A=21/03/2019________H+188

B7,C54,D10,E+6,F-4,G+2,H+190
B11,C55,D14,E+11,F-3,G+8,H+198
B5,C56,D7,E+4,F-3,G+1,H+199
B16,C57,D21,E+11,F-10,G+1,H+200
B18,C58,D32,E+19,F-13,G+6,H+206
B24,C59,D38,E+15,F-23,G-8,H+198

End of day profit +8 unit
End of day running bank H+198

K=81 minutes

As you can see we end day on a loss of 8 units, nearly a whole days betting bank allowance. Most importantly we still managed a 8 unit profit for the day or a little over 1:3 unit per game. I was guilty of pushing the envelope in playing the last game of the day , I’m in a great profit position before last game played and just got greedy, I was mindful of retaining a days profit at times.

Next post will be a summary of this week played plus a combined progress summary for March.
Cheers

 

thank you for the detailed reply, very informative and shows the experience/grind and where we would all like to be at if playing this game "professionaly" ,

they have the stadium setup in Vegas, Venetian, so I am aware of the system, here its minimum $5, live dealer, i have seen the RNG one too in vegas / Manila, but never played it, im glad to see your playing "black" and trust it and winning

if you are playing $100+, dont they have VIP rooms in australia where you can play by yourself, or make the table private, to avoid delays/distractions? Ive seen your posts of why you prefer RNG, and understand, just wondering,

where i play/played i can restart a new shoe anytime and take free hands as long as im playing $100+

 

You should add to that your effectiveness and the streaks. A slow grind upward is better than a slow grind downward. When I play at a live table I must place at least a minimum bet for each spin. There is no sitting out spins, like in a stadium game. So if the table minimum is $5 then my attack the streak price is usually 20 times that or $100. Now in Roulette you can cover 30 of the 38 possible numbers with just 5 $1 chips by betting on 5 double streets. That tends to balance out in the long run of a session. If I lose more than average then I will sometimes place a $5 bet on one of the EC's. It's just a mini recovery game going on inside the real game that is to win from 1 to 3 units for the entire session at the 20 times price of $100. So I just watch session difficulty and only bet the 20 times the base value when I see win streaks. It's a very simple strategy based on Even Chance bets for the big bets.

 

Yes that’s correct very high roller room you can have own room but you play $50/100k minimum bet per hand unlimited free hand and shoe change at your direction, one of the dealers I know very well used to deal exclusively there. In that room the table is exclusively yours. I’m not in that league of play.
—In one of the other high limit room $300 and $500 min bet table you can have free hands and table agreement new shoes at 20 hands plus or so. In the other high limit room $100, $200 mins three free hand after every other bet ie you bet now next three free if you want then bet again then 3 free etc. If you make a special request to be a rated play and you claim a rebate on your losses you can have a table in one of the high limit room but you play the $1 -$5 k range, I Think but don’t quote me on that one as I’ve only seen it happen a couple of times. The other high limits tables on main game floor $100,$200,$300 min bet first three hands free only you must buy the rest, I think up until three or four years ago all $100 min and up tables allowed unlimited free hands. I used to be able to get a table to myself usually on a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday night after about 11:30 pm in high limit room but if the shoe was producing results that others were looking for I would have to share the table or eventually leave. I have posted other thread I’m happy to play with people if good crowd but generally 90 % of people playing here are the superstitious kind ie you bet against the table you create bad shoe etc.
——So in general I don’t like to be awake until dawn anymore, I don’t like taking forever to play a shoe as you know it can be two hours play if a table is full, the Macau screen doesn’t come into action until the fourth column is started. So that can cut into profit if you pay for the first fifteen hands before the fourth column is activated, technically you can be ten units plus down before playing and the rest of the shoe may not be conducive to my requirements.
—-My objective is to get as many instances in my favour as possible, hence stadium play it’s continuous, you don’t have to buy a hand , you decide when to start or finish ( start / change a new shoe as you say ) I can still bet $1000 hands if I want to, but $500 I’m comfortable and unless I have an exceptional shoe and win $10 k plus I can still not be bothered by host or wait for hand pay as that can take awhile.
Play on stadium $1000 plus per bet can be done and you monthly balance is excellent but you time increase dramatically mostly in waiting time. I would rather a break as I have experience on the waiting time etc.
—Touching the card is a big thing for some people , I get it and I do play table sometimes on occasions, but the deck is set so may as well churn through it. If you get an opportunity to play staidium I recommend to try it , you will need to readjust mentally to it, ie make money leave . If people play to touch cards they are generally there for showmanship, pleasure, having fun or belief of self will is changing the outcome of the result , usually if they are honest it’s not about making a profit consistently. Rather it’s the atmosphere or process involved. But most of them are not honest with themselves. IMHO
Cheers