Baccarat Stadium play 2019 February to August

Yes I understand, I really don’t need free hands as such , I’ve played roulette live table it’s still extra time waiting for all payout, live stadium roulette is good. They spin you lose or win automatic payouts next spin 25 seconds no more bets. Done and dusted. With what I do re baccarat I don’t have to wait for a streak to develop before I play but capture the streak as I play and if there is no streak as such that is a streak in its self . That non streak I can capture and play also. Not sure if that’s understandable , but if LLLL are decisions I will bet that my decision will now continue to lose and become a win , then I will continue to make losing decisions to win on . That’s until the losing decision starts to become winner decision then I revert back to choosing the win decision to be a winning decision, ie LLLLLLL is a streak of losses but still a streak nevertheless.
— I enjoy you posts and are interesting food for thought. Cheers

 

good info looks like the casino is rather restricted on low rollers there, Aria in Vegas was pretty accomodating to $100 players when i played last there early 2019, last time i played live was in Manila fall 2020 and the casinos (Solaire/City of Dreams) are accomodating to $100 players, it seems like you need to bet minimun $1000 per hand there to get same shoe/free hands/restarting shoe etc... I dont like or play the super 6/7 half price payouts, but realize that there is no choice sometimes

 

I typically get a nice range for minimum sized virtual bets. Yes, a $5 or $10 minimum bet is the virtual bet. It's the same as not placing a bet to me. If you just look for the weak side or strong side of an EC bet like Odd/Even, Low/High, or Red/Black you can just play those strong sides with these minimum priced bets. They then tend to balance out by the end of the session. At these same tables I have options for from $1,000 to $5,000 per bet. And most of the time a single way to a number can be from $25 to $100 each. There's room to sit back, and room to attack. It's the single reason I play Roulette over Craps, Baccarat, or Blackjack. I hunt the weaknesses found in 6 groups rather than those just found in one group.

 

if you have this format easily accessible on one of your other games i would like to replay it using my flat bet selection, i finished this at +14, started at hand#9 once the cockroach road was filled. It was a lucky shoe im thinking, played 40 handsplayed 27 wins 13 loses, i only need the P or B result, you can just send me that and not tell me what game it was and ill tell you how i finished, remember i have to build all the roads before i start betting so maybe need minimun 20 to 30 hands, thanks

 

Yes Sydney casino is a one horse town and very much reflects the general business attitude in Australia, re food prices, cost of meat (we have abundant) cost of fuel and housing to name but a few. We are an island country and the attitude is you have to pay whatever we charge and only one casino per state ( 7 states) at the moment . The casino here change rules, games, jackpots, player rewards are virtually non existent because they can and they know you will come back and play at those terrible house odds.

So I always just do my thing as easily as I can. I send shoe later but I would caution you on cognitive bias as you already know the next result of the hand and subconsciously you will fit the answer to that. Human nature. Maybe get a partner to read next hand to you after you make a decision. That’s a but truer to a live game play. Or just play on line. Cheers

 

ok thanks, i am careful when i backtest as it does no good to "cheat", for my purposes, my bets are set when all the roads are filled out on the scoreboard anyway and I dont deviate, i replay the hand one by one on an android app that fills out each road as i input result its called Baccarat Scoreboard

I just played a live shoe online and had a similar result using same bet selection that i used on your shoe that ended up at +14 heres the P B results ended at +11

40 hands started betting at hand 8

21 wins 10 losses

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B
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B
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P
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B
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attach is the screenshot of the first 31 hands, forgot to screenshot the end , this site only has about 40 to 50 hands per game

 

Yes I know and use baccarat scoreboard I use it while I play stadium as an extra handbrake so to speak. Good you seem to understand, I’m not going to check your shoe results today, maybe sometime soon . I’m also not overly inclined to check as I know my interpretation is not the same as anybody else, the fact being no one is right or wrong and one road may have a higher weight to me than the other 3 roads at different times. This is how I can be in different trends (for lack of a better word) either as they start or before they start etc.
—I would like to say it’s not the holy grail but it does work if you do your homework
cheers

 

No worries as the very next shoe I played went -9 with a low of -11, was positive +1 early on and then straight down using same bet selection.

I just need to find the good stop win stop loss points within a shoe, which is hard, and I've think you found it.

I can't blame the RNG OR the factory pre-shuffled cards because this live casino they manually shuffle and set the cards in front of camera each shoe in a clear see through shoe.

Anyways thanks.for the thread and interesting results, I'll lurk and look forward to your updates

 

A couple of things for thought, one you have played only a handful, if that, of shoes. Hardly a wealth of experience at this point in time. But a foundation for sure. Two, psychological damage - as in you know from past performance you have failed at baccarat, which is why you are trying something new now. Three, unrealistic expectations — even though you see from this thread it wins ( what ever my it is ) you expect to be up x units immediately, example — not always the case for me to win immediately but if you check daily logs you will notice first game of day can be a loser, break even or win +1 or +2 units etc.
—Examples 03/03/2019 game C6 , 28 hands played G-6 units.
C7, up +4 units
C8, down -3units
To finish day at -5 units. Etc other days etc. do some homework and re look at day play of games posted and get the general feel not every game played is a winner (= unrealistic expectation) BUT over the units are in profit.

Four, you are making a square peg in a round hole. As I’ve previously posted some games you just know will not be a winning game, (re read previous posts and think about it) you are imposing your will on the perceived/ desired outcome etc. From above posts you will read I’m down x units straight away may recapture a couple of units go back down then I end game at -6,-7,-4,-5 etc it is not a problem as I KNOW I will win in next game or next day. I know that particular game I’m playing is not working so I end it. Sure it MAY turn back in my favour but it usually doesn’t, why give casino more of my money? If you decide to end a game for whatever reason you’re up, you’re down, you’re even , don’t sit and continue watching the game play on . Walk away , because you will start second guess you’re self and see that maybe that shoe changes eventually to your favour this one time, but I save you the trouble it’s not always the case mostly it will continue losing. Been there done that.

Fifth, you are playing every hand . I would even say you had played the first hand available to you to bet, rather than wait for a few betable hands then make you first bet. Most new toys get broken in the first hour on Xmas day. Re read posts they have to keep dealing you don’t have to keep betting.

Sixth, you are playing a finite shoe, you expect to win only on this finite event. You are possibly subconsciously noticing the end of shoe arriving, as you said it’s a 50 odd hand shoe your playing ( it’s probably a 6 deck game, still workable in my opinion) this becomes an externally imposed pressure that you /we all react to either conscious or subconsciously. You may not have seriously detached emotionally from past losses and or you haven’t really physically structured your betting bankroll to your unit size . If you are betting black do you physically have 5x10 unit banks available? $5000 ?

You said you came back to be + 1 unit after being down or such. That’s a good point to lock up the game profit of +1 unit and end game. Good starting practice.
Re read posts I mentioned being down come to even etc, my advice to you at this stage in that game is stop there at +1, or stop on immediate next loss to finish walk away even. You eventually down 9 units? Big difference -9 or +1 or even. Re read posts I don’t think per game or per day or per week....I think per month, I have the structure in place, bankroll , unit size, game not working leave , game spasmodic +/-1 or 2 end and leave. Game working have hit streak lock up profits ( trailing profit stop for present game ) end game immediately on first loss regardless I’m up or down. Re read previous posts.

I would advice RNG game if possible as it makes you have a complete mental shift from the finite shoe and the problems imposed , also the 20second decision makes you focused and decisive, you can reevaluate your decision while hand is being dealt approximately another ten seconds, which in turn accelerates the decision making process for next hand. Don’t invest emotionally with the hand being dealt you’ve won or lost, it’s already a past event, meaning you cannot take bet off half way through the deal, use those few seconds to think about your strategy in place , the next decision or your exit point. Cheers

 

Ok let’s continue with the last 4 days game postings summary then weeks average.
Carryover running bank from previous week H+124 units

A=15/03/2019–21/03/2019=4 days played.
B=Total time played = 281 minutes =4:6 hours
C=Total game played = 16
D= Total hands played= 431
E= Total hands WON =252
F= Total hands LOST = 178
G= Total units won= +74
H= Total running bank +124 +74= +198 units

This the 4 day week summary

Average time played per day= 1:15 hours
Average games per day = 4
Average hands per day =107:7
Average hands WON per day = 63
Average hands lost per day = 44:5
Average unit won per day =18:5
Average units won per hour = 16
Average total minutes to realise +1 unit profit = 3:7 minutes

End of week running bank H+198 units.
March unit value is =$200
Stadium baccarat, 20 seconds decision
I only flat bet one unit (+$200)
Cheers

 

Chop chop.
Carryover running bank H+198

A=25/03/2019________H+198
B18,C60,D22,E+12,F-10,G+2,H+200
B19,C61,D25,E+17,F-8,G+9,H+209
B20,C62,D30,E+18,F-12,G+6,H+215
B6,C63,D9,E+7,F-2,G+5,H+220
B25,C64,D36,E+24,F-11,G+13,H+233
B10,C65,D14,E+10,F-4,G+6,H+239

K=98 minutes

End of day profit = +35 unit
End of day running bank H+239
Cheers

 

Just the characterization "hardish" should have seen you walk your win; much better to be grateful on sessions like that.

I cringed upon reading this, Punkcity. Here's why:

It was about 25 years ago, a Sunday afternoon that had been the culmination of a rather profitable weekend trip to AC, my playing partner and I had decided to make a quick stop at Caesars (the casino is located on the road to the parkway entrance) to play one more session before heading home.

After about 45 minutes, we hit our win goal. BUUUTTT, we still owed about $80 in commissions. (Buy-in $6,000 with $200 unit) So we decided, heck, why not play for one more unit to cover our expenses?

Need I tell you that we wound up playing that ill-fated session until almost 5 P.M. (just in time to catch all the end-of-weekend traffic north) and, worse, lost back the bulk of our buy-in....all in the name of just ONE MORE STINKIN' UNIT!!!

Now, let me tell you, Punkcity, that was one helluva hard-learned lesson!

Yet, that said, to this very day I still fight those "Greed Demons". It's always "more, more, more" at the tables, right? It ain't never enough, right? I could ALWAYS have won more, right? The true answers?: NO, NO, and, oh yeah, NO!

Yet almost each and every session I need to remind myself that I'm but one "stupid move" away from pissing it all. And why is that, you ask?:

Because, in our heart of hearts, we are all GAMBLERS. And, as gamblers, we can't be trusted. Not even with OUR OWN money.

Why do you think I speak all the time of strict win goals and/or stop losses? "Get in, get yours, and get out" All because I'm STILL afraid of what the gambler inside of me is capable of doing to myself.

What happens when you hit your win goal (say, 5 units) and decide to play on? After all, why not? Maybe, just maybe, "today is YOUR day". Well, I'll tell you exactly what happens....if you lose the next bet or two, now you don't count yourself as still ahead 3 units....rather, you're wondering where those other 2 units went, and now you find yourself "missing" them and you want them back. And, now my friend, the casino has you just where they want to have you....in "chase mode".

So ask yourself....just how far are you willing to go to chase those 2 units? Where, exactly, is the line drawn? And then ask yourself...is that really ME reacting to the situation or is it the GAMBLER in me doing the thinking? Answer wisely, my friend; for your bankroll depends on it.

Moral to story: While setting prudent win goals are important to any successful strategy, real long-term success is dependent upon the player's ability to adjust their win/loss goals to the current situation and exactly how that's been playing out in terms of wins versus losses.

Just a longer way of saying: Learn to walk a win, any win; and learn to walk as minimized a loss as possible. Recognize when a session doesn't appear to be going your way; or, even more importantly, recognize when a good session is appearing to be "turning" on you. Either way, it's time to walk.

Moral of the story, Part II: Sometimes it's important to save ourselves....FROM OURSELVES!

Stay safe and stay well.

 

Thanks gr8, I have already posted my thoughts re setting a goal, target pre game/day play so I won’t repeat it all again, it’s within the last 8 or 9 posts this thread if anyone cares to re read. To me at this stage in my development as a player I find it amazing and amusing that people still think they are going to ‘ hit the big one today on baccarat ‘, or remarks such as I’m going to take them to the cleaners etc etc . Talk about unrealistic expectations they are unwittingly succumbing to the gamble fallacy. Treat each game on its own merits ,and full disclosure here and in all honesty , don’t let a good/ bad shoe influence your next shoe. I on occasions find my balls are to big for my mind after I’ve had a super super lucky shoe , the next game I play abit to caveler end up working a lot harder/longer than normal.
— I try not to view myself as a gambler. To me that’s an important strategy, I have rules set in place that I strictly adhere to. Well 99 % of the time as is evident from the games I post. When in doubt get out. I’ve already stated I’m happy to walk at -x units down as well as being + x units up. I say these things to help others that may read this thread, if it’s of no help, no problem. I am aware yourself and others offer some valuable advice which I mostly agree with and would add that people reading these comments should take a few moments to understand and think through what is said, what is being said between the lines and what has been intentionally left unsaid. So some information will be meaningless as it doesn’t apply to a persons present state of mind.
—It is one thing to be told about something or shown something in detail and another thing for the reader to actually comprehend what you are saying. Few people think, many people ask questions without following up the applied comprehension that’s needed. I have remarked to Victor on another thread about being lazy. That’s why the gambler fallacy is so strong with so many Luke skywalker. It’s an easy path of misconception that’s costly. Cheers

 

Yeah, don't we all? No one wants that disgraced label attached to their own personal gaming pursuits. We believe ourselves to be above and beyond, right?

WRONG!

Let's face it: We're all willing to take the very worst of it each and every time we sit down at a Baccarat table, looking down the barrel of that daunted house edge.

C'mon, man, one simply MUST be predisposed to GAMBLE if they're so willing to absorb that sort of disadvantage working against their bankroll.

And so I both face that reality and, finally, embrace it. How? I monitor my actions at the Baccarat table CONTINUOUSLY. My mind is working overtime at each and every session.

That's one of the reasons that I try to keep my sessions as brief as possible and, with that in mind, utilize equally short stop loss/win goal limits.
Playing this game after so many years as I have, my game has now evolved to the point where the "mental" part of it is just as important as the other where's, why's, and how's. I am constantly reassessing my position after each and every bet I make, ALWAYS with my eyes toward the cashier's cage. "Get in, get yours, get out."

Stay safe and stay well.

 

Gr8, I will agree with you on the last three paragraphs and that’s my point exactly. The first three paragraphs is exactly why the casino cracks most people. I’m an Aussie here in this country there is no stigma attached to “ be a Gambler “, that word disgraced is a guilt complex imposed by uptight religious and hypocritical moralists and if you subscribe to that you all need help.
- I don’t consider myself above and beyond as you suggest, those that do and subject themselves to the social disgrace of being a “ Gambler “ in their own mind are actually looking for excuses to why they failed, why they imploded and lost the bankroll. The excuse of I’m a gambler don’t wash with me. The last threes paragraph you wrote is EXACTLY the way to NOT be a gambler.
—I have said I have put structures in place ( rules , physical ,mental and moral rules) and I like you have written stick to them. BUT and this the point, I don’t make excuses and blame outside for my mistakes. I never use the excuse oh I failed because I’m a low life or a loser gambler, that self pity is the try stigma people will relabel as GAMBLER. I tell people here that ask that I’m a professional gambler ( that word again ) THIS IS MY JOB . But I don’t gamble for EXACTLY the few words you wrote, you cannot be a gambler and stick to a structure, a process, a series of checks and balances put in place to stop the emotional, incoherent whimsical action that typifies a GAMBLER . Look at a slots player and that’s a true gambler in the sense of the word, no plan , no logic, money in press button brainless maybe money out . The only thing one needs to do is stop thinking yourself to be a gambler, and then you can properly adhere to the factual last three paragraphs that I emphatically agree with. No matter your money management, bet selection criteria, lucky rabbit foot you have to mentally decide you are not a gambler and your above statement will work in your favour. Yes you can be under a lot of pressure to preform but be a professional, we have all worked in companies that have strict procedures in place as per work practices etc. that’s to minimise risk, minimum product defaults, minimum losses. The owner gamble to start a company? Or are they businessmen/women.
—Increase your strike ratio be professional, set your rules, stick to them. If your rules are nonexistent then you’re a gambler . I have posted comments on various threads that support the fact I don’t gamble. no I don’t have a predetermined goal amount, that’s a gamble trait, no I don’t chase loses,another gamble trait. Etc. I have played two hands as per this diary posts and left the game. Im not so egotistical to say that I’m correct and I’m infallible but I maximise my wins and minimise my loses by not thinking like a gambler.
If you feel the need to call yourselves gamblers then be my guest. For just that quantum change of thought you can transport yourselves to endless positive possibilities.
— NO I CHOOSE not to think of myself as a gambler and I don’t give a rats toss if others agree or not. It helps me win , I will continue the way I am , I will continue to improve myself, and I will continue to help others if I’m able. I have mentioned I respect some of your views and comments gr8 that you have posted and I have also mentioned I don’t agree with some of your posts. So thanks for your input, much appreciated and I do love you work as I believe most of your comments are very beneficial to other readers. Cheers

 

Let’s continue
The posted end of day profit for 25/03/2019 was wrong and should read+41 unit profit and not +35. It was an epic day and an example of collecting what profit was on offer. Taking what the shoe was offering at the time with no preconceived projection of how much I HAVE to earn/ make. No pressures and no problems. The end of day carryover bank H+239 is correct and remain the same.

A=29/03/2019________H+239

B10,C66,D18,E+14,F-4,G+10,H+249
B90,C67,D119,E+63,F-56,G+7,H+256
B80,C68,D96,E+57,F-39,G+18,H+274

End of day profit + 35 units
End of day running bank H+274

K=180 minutes

Game C67 and C68 are longer than usual. In these two instances the games were just ticking along I was never in a drawdown situation of more than a unit or so , but I could see that it’s slowly increasing (C68 especially). So I was happy to invest the time and did employ a trailing profit stop.

Cheers

 

Ok once more
Carryover bank H+274

A=39/03/2019________H+274

B77,C69,,D92,E+45,F-47,G-2,H+272
B66,C70,D80,E+52,G+24,H+296

K=143 minutes

End of day profit +22 units
End of day running bank H+296
Cheers

 

Last day of the month
Carryover running bank H + 296

A=31/03/2019________H+296

B40,C71,D61,E+30,F-31,G-1,H+295
B43,C72,D70,E+44,F-26,G+18,H+313
B39,C73,D60,E+36,F-24,G+10, H+323
B19 C74,D25,E+19,F-7,G+12,H+335

K=141 minutes

End of day profit + 39 units
End of day running bank H+ 335

You know that’s $8000 approximately for two hours play.
Flat betting.

Next post will be week summary plus total monthly summary. Then we will carry forward February stats and link up with March stats etc.
cheers

 

You may notice that days of playing are not always connective sometimes it’s day after day other times it’s 2 days later or even four days apart . As stated I often don’t play Saturday day , public holidays ,Friday afternoon re crowds of cashed up gamblers. Usually if the months profit are good I generally take things easier the following month etc, I try not to ever work 40 hours in a month, life’s too short.
Cheers

 

thank you for continued update, following along, its very interesting and inspiring, your hit rate is awesome

on these long games/days do you play every hand (119 hands game C67 ) everyhand continuous? its like playing 2 live dealer bac games///every hand, but that could easily take 1.5 to 3 hours depending on if you are playing alone

B90,C67,D119,E+63,F-56,G+7,H+256
B80,C68,D96,E+57,F-39,G+18,H+274
B77,C69,,D92,E+45,F-47,G-2,H+272
B66,C70,D80,E+52,G+24,H+296
B40,C71,D61,E+30,F-31,G-1,H+295
B43,C72,D70,E+44,F-26,G+18,H+313
B39,C73,D60,E+36,F-24,G+10, H+323