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Roulette Stat question

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Yes I should know this but I forgot. No, its not for a method. 00 wheel >> looking at the history board, WHEN is the AVERAGE of a number repeating from a new number that JUST hit? I hope that made sense.

    I think the average is seven(7th)?

    Ken
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My research, and where I gave up on hot numbers comes from playing 300 spin sessions. So I have found that in 300 spin sessions the hottest number hits from 14 to 22 times where 14 is common and 22 or higher is more rare.

    14 hits = 21.4 in 300 spins
    22 hits = 13.6 in 300 spins

    But this is where I gave up on hot numbers. You saw that shorter spans produced tighter intervals from hot streaks of hottest numbers. So your averages should be in the lower sizes like 12 or below. I know I could get a single interval of 50 or more and still have that number be the hottest performer in a 300 spin cycle. It still comes down to seeing what kind of randomness you are getting that day. Each days hot streaks are different. Still, in the long run there must be an average for the way that you play.

    I got my averages from dividing the number of hits into 300. Your hot streaks probably average out to way less, like 72 or 108 spins per hot section.
     
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  3. Nathan Detroit

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    Mark,

    Excuse my interruption but what is your latest bet selection ? Dozens / Columns or EC ?


    Thanks.


    ND
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Although I was referring to 300 spins and hot numbers my current method features EC bets. Two bets are balanced bets. You win one and you lose one to stay even. And monster type trends are very common. It's all I need.
     
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    A lot of people don't / won't get it but like Gizmotron says, you can make a killing on the E/C's. It's certainly not the boring or 'newbie' style of play some make it out to be. In fact, it's the sensible option when you stop looking for fools gold.
     
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  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thanks for your reply . Currently I am also in the EC . Black and Low in competition each other . One might be up , the other down or both up or down , or one has a higher return than the other . 2-1-2 method applied to each separately .


    Happy Winnings .




    ND
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Mrk ,

    Do not forget the Up and pull method : 2-1-2-3-3-5-2 .


    ND
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I gave up on the up and pull as you go. It requires that you must get a win after a win even if you are staggering your second or third bet to win the full stretch. I went back to 3 net wins is enough. I use the no pay bet selection to see if I'm out of a losing streak. That means I chart a best trend bet selection as if I had money on it. I no longer need two or three wins in a row to get my winner. I just need 3 net wins. So staggered wins is good enough. So w, L, w, w, = 2 net wins ahead. I'm flat betting my big bets. When you look at EC swings in a win / loss chart for EC's you see up and down waves. So, like the stock charts, you bet on the upticks of my actual guesses. You can guess for a red streak to end by betting black and you will still get the winner in your win / loss chart even though the trend says to bet red. You might be in a swarm of 5's or smaller. That means that there is currently an absence of 6's or larger for the time being. It's all guessing. There is no magical way to know when swarms will stop confirming themselves. But trends flow in swarms of similarity just the same. There are so many ways to see anything that continues that it's amazing that most players are oblivious to them. But that is good for those that see it all.

    You do know that all you need is three net wins to become a millionaire don't you?
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Mark ,

    Interesting MO on your part about 3 net winnings . There are many options to go after a profit .



    ND
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Considering a $ 100 bet on an E C how about a $ 5 chip on the split 0/ 00 due to the absence of the la partage at the roulette tables in many casinos .

    Atlantic City offers la partage at the 0 /00 wheel but not at the single 0 wheel .

    ND
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Interesting. My charts show the activity of the zeros. They tend to run in three types of phases. They can go cold for long stretches, they can be normal at around 17-19 spins or they can swarm for a short while. I also bet them when they swarm.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    According to JP if the last 6 spins posted are B-R-B-B-R -B it is an indication to consider the Black EC. The opposite for the Red EC.


    ND
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Funny how people, even JP, explains trend following as a rule. You must know the context of the trends around the one you think is a trigger. You might go with the one result where B is a domination sided advantage but I think it's just chaos. I pounce on the monster trends that are just powering through the charts. If that sequence is the best that you have then I suggest waiting for better contextual trends that have side support. This of course is gibberish to almost all of you. I guess when I read randomness I see "Pulp Fiction" and when you guys read it you see "Green Eggs & Ham."
     
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  14. TurboGenius

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    I read "trend" and "trigger" and stopped reading lol.
    Experienced enough to know that triggers are worthless and trends end or don't equally and there
    is no benefit in them. But that's me.
     

  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm so glad for you. So you see "How The Red Fern Grows." There are no trend triggers where "you guys look like dorks" exist. And You just seeing "trend" and "trigger" makes me want to weep for when "Lassie Came Home" once more. Did you get this far? You just illustrated my point. There are no rule based triggers if you include context. But you can't read between the lines. And that is in fact you. My point was that triggers are worthless. Just like you genius.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Strange, that sounds like a trend with a trigger.
    Nevermind....
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Mark ,

    I gave you a "like " at post#13 . For clarification my post was not considered as a trend or a trigger but an inducement to buy in at a particular table for the player who favors a certain EC dominant .

    I am sorry not to have stated this at the time of posting .


    ND
     
  18. gizmotron

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    I also bet the zeros when they swarm, context. Perhaps you can turn it into your next rule based system?
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Dominance, strong side - weak side, is a very powerful coincidence.
     
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    Yes, and there are probability and math behind such strong and weak side.
    I notice that following the strong side requires fewer attempts then follow the weak side.
    If someone would follow the weak side you need to make a gap analysis to understand what kind of frequency small, medium and large recoups looks like and when and where and how they unfold.

    My 2 cents.

    Cheers
     

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