Roulette Still the same H.E.?

At C. Casino (where I practice), they switch wheel & ball direction every spin. I believe some B&M also do the same (?) Where I play (B&M) and MOST other casinos, it all stays the same direction.

I have read (from other posters) that it is more difficult to play their style of game on the alternating wheel/ball tables. So the question becomes, does your H.E. increase because of those conditions?

Point being, you cant have it both ways (imo). You cant say it is MORE DIFFICULT winning on the alternating wheel/ball tables BUT the H.E. stays exactly the same.

Ken

 

The house edge stays the same. The idea behind it is to try and hide obvious biases or exploitable inefficiencies in the dealing procedures by the dealer.

In 99% of the US the wheel spins the same direction from one spin to the next. Few casinos go to the trouble of alternating spin direction. Sometimes you'll see the alternating spin direction on the double tables where there's one wheel between two tables. It's a very ghetto approach and creates a very slow game. If you find a wheel where the dealer is alternating spin direction every spin in the US and it's not a double table, then you can bet the wheel is consistently failing the chi square test on the data download and that they're trying to hide the bias. The same is true if they're changing the ball frequently. The plus side is that those countermeasures are actually more beneficial to the AP than they are the casino. The reason is it enables the AP to have different biased numbers for different spin directions and it creates a false sense of security for the casino.

 

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Thanks for the reply Dr Sir Anyone.

Ken

 

@mr j

HE is determined with the number of pockets and the payout.

In Europe i have never seen any wheel where there's only one direction, always two. They also use to change often the dealer quickly if the table is losing or if one player is winning much. This of course is a fallacy, all those people could actually be also on Betselection, trying to find a system on a dozen with a negative progression.

@Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone 100% correct
@Al 100% stupid

 

I like how everyone (@ R30) explains to me what the HE is (lol). Yes, I know what it is. My main concern was, can you have an "advantage" and the HE stays the SAME?

https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?topic=2577.0

 

Well, it's easy to guess it... Whatever the fact there is one or two directions, it won't affect the number of pockets or the payout, so nothing will change.

We can make same deduction with the whole systems invented. If the number of pocket and the payout don't change or if the system cannot affect it then it won't give anything than the expected edge (-2.7%).

Bias can give you an edge coz 1 pocket for example (or several) comes more often than the 1/37 (with a payout of x35+your unit bet). For example if it comes 1/28 instead 1/37 you'll have an edge.
With Vb and basically if you can for example predict what half of the wheel will come out and that you bet 1 number, you play now with 1/18 (it is to give the idea, in reality you also got chaos to add) instead 1/37, then you can have the edge.

That's what you got to ask someone with his "genious" system, how does it affect the number of pockets or the payout?how can you modify probability?

 

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@mr j

I've read the topic. It can be an advantage to have two directions because most of the time a dealer will prefer one to another. Then it is also good to relax during the spin on the direction that you don't play. Finally, the casino shoots itself in the foot because it records numbers ok but they don't know what direction it is about...it is mixed together, and something true in one direction can be wrong in the other one; it is two different variable (with one direction there's no doubt about this)