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Roulette System of "Chains"... Have you heard?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by MikeRouletteMan, May 27, 2022.

  1. MikeRouletteMan

    MikeRouletteMan New Member

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    Hello, Friends!

    Recently I have found an interesting system called "Chains" (by its author). I've read the theory of this method and it looks promising... Also it's powered with authors app (Roulette Chains PRO). It seems it's something new, but I'm not sure. Have you got any deals with this system? Thanks!
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Worst. salesman. ever.
     
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    Need more info please....
     
  4. MikeRouletteMan

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    Hi! I'm not sure it's allowed to place the direct links at this forum... but you can look at the chains theory at this website: bestrouletteapp com
    There is a very detailed information about everything, that's why I'm a very curious... looks really good!
     
  5. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yeah the giveaway of course is the tags in the post. New member. It's sad.
    Why don't they put a little effort into it if they want sales ? Minimal effort on your part "Mike".
     
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  7. MikeRouletteMan

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    Sorry for this... I just want to present the good project to the people who are interested in roulette. But all the forums are afraid of scamers. That's why I post very "carefully". Don't judge me this hard... ;) I understand that this post looks ridiculous, but the project I present is still worth the attention. Once again, I appologize if I look as a "not so smart promotional noob". It was just a test post to see how things going here on this forum. Probably I was wrong :(
     

  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well there are red flags everywhere, but fine.

    So it's 72 bucks - join a forum and make a post for some sales. I'm sure someone will bite.
    None of that is relevant though because nothing is explained on how or why it works or doesn't.

    So we took the word "pattern" and changed it to "chains" - is that going to make a difference in sales ?
    A quick read through the site and that's pretty much it - patterns and betting on what you think will happen next based
    on what happened.
    Also the martingale example ? 1/2/4/8/16/32/64/128 is absurd.
    This means "most of the time you'll win" - once in a great while you won't and no need to discuss that I guess -
    but that's where whatever bankroll you had is gone.


    Now, on the site more red flags such as :
    Which to any veteran or experienced person who plays roulette is nonsense.
    A session of 30 minutes for 10 games and a single session of 300 minutes produces the exact same results.
    So something that predicts wins "but only for 30 minutes" isn't logical at all.

    No offense - but it reminds me of penis enlargement advertisements. "Grow 2 inches in 1 week"
    But doesn't that mean Grow 20 inches in 10 weeks ? Or 200 inches in 100 weeks ? No ? Well why not ?
    Something that works doesn't "work" and then "not work", it works all the time.
    Something that doesn't work actually works once in a while - this is a creative way to excuse a loss because "you played
    too long of a session". If someone wants to play a marathon for a week straight then the predictability of the tool shouldn't change.
    To imply there is some spin count or time limit when "well, it's not as predictable now" is nonsense.

    If you want my advice, which you don't - go to a reliable Simulator site like "Roulette Simulator" and make
    a free account - poof.
    In a few weeks you'll surely be at #1 and trust me - everyone will knock on your door waving $72 to see how it works.
    You can play there and demonstrate - (because YouTube videos that just show it working is not proof of anything).

    Maybe add a disclaimer on the site as should be there that warns people that they may lose..... it's just the
    nice thing to do considering the likely outcome.
    Also be open - there is much hidden trickery afoot.

    I would buy from someone who said on their site "I am So and So and this is my software"
    To not use any contact other than an email address and MikeRouletteMan here is shady, wouldn't you agree ?
    Actual name ? Why not. I would be proud to put out a product and wouldn't feel the need to be secretive about
    my identity unless there was a reason to do so... so is there ?

    Anyway, waste of time - someone can copy/paste this in future threads when the next thing comes along.
    I do like patterns though - but changing the name to chains still makes it patterns.
     
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  9. MikeRouletteMan

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    Thank you for the advices! Everything you said is true...
    Well... my name is Mike. And this is not my first roulette project ever. I've been develping software for more than 10 years.
    As for your notes:
    - Martingale is really adsurd, but it's the classic variant of use. With version PRO you will be provided with another (more soft) progressions and functions.
    - About 30 minutes - the main idea is not about the profit on the short distance, but about the concentration that you can lose playing too long with the software (which can cause mistakes).

    I have much more successful sales experience with other projects, with other marketing model. But in this one it's a kind of experiment: What if I can offer maximum opened project where the user can get:
    - The calculation method before the purchase
    - The detailed manual before the purchase
    - Some free version of program without time limit

    I'm really not sure this will be the successful experiment (in total sales), but I gave a try... I offer something good, and I don't feel shame on my work. For a long time I had an idea to create something like this, and it's done now... Maybe I will never do such a hard work in future :)
     
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    Then why not make the first post truthful that it is yours and not something that you found ?
    Being deceptive from the start is never the best way to do business.
    I'm sure you're proud of what you created - then don't make it appear to be fake by promoting it as something you heard about or
    asking others about it - just come out and be straight forward.

    And this..
    Just demonstrate it - if it works as you say then people will take notice, it costs you nothing and the best promotion is to show the results.
    The limits there are well within your range for betting amounts.
     
  11. MikeRouletteMan

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    Thank you! I appreciate your time to give some advices to me... If we are talking about my product, what do you think about the price of 72USD - I feel like its the everage, but maybe you have another opinion as a potential customer? (let's imagine this ))
     
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    i think turbo summed it up.....i would say go on rs sim and do play it and leave account open....the flaw in this to make money from the software on a one off sale is wrong....if it works as you say you should put the software on a server and activate users and disconnect users ..i have this feature on my software....but tbh i don,t charge anyone i made the decision for it to be free...and do a low monthly charge subscription ..12 x $10 =120 a year per customer.....that's a recurring passive fee per person....not a $72 one off fee ...you will only sell so much ..if any...

    but do as turbo says ...get on rsim and back yourself up...don,t go around the forums sneakily ...doesn,t look good and looks slimy
     
  13. Kamil88

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    One question. Why sell a profitable system instead of playing it yourself and making money?
     
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    Well,

    Because than the money comes in without you need to put your time in it...(hours online or go daily to a casino ) ...

    On another note ... I would charge more than 72$ if it really works. More like 100$ monthly or once 1000$ to use the "software" 24/7 ....
     

  15. Kamil88

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    You really think so?

    If the system works, more and more people will buy it. They will start winning huge amounts of money and roulette will be removed from casinos because they will not be able to afford such huge losses and roulette will become only an international sport.
     
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    Very right!
    @Kamil88 where in Poland do you play? One day we can meet if both will wish :)
     
  17. Denzie

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    Naaaaah it doesn't work that way. I use to think this too....but naaaaah. Casinos making enough money . How many % of the population does play ? And of that tiny % how many does actually win long term? Most people even with a decent method lose coz of their greedy nature and weak self control....

    And iiiiiiiif for some reason you would be right.......cough.....the seller would be long gone to live his easy life before the word gets out...

    So naaaaah
     
  18. Kamil88

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    For the last couple of years, I mostly only play online. It's hard for me to find time to visit casinos. Unfortunately, I have over 120 km to the nearest one.


    But that's how it works. A simple example of card counting in Black Jack. This is not a crime, but the casino has the right to refuse you to continue playing. You can easily find more information about it on the internet.

    Second example - rules and regulations of online casinos. When you create an account, you must accept the terms and conditions. The casino offers games for recreational players. If you are considered a professional player, your account may be temporarily suspended or closed and all winnings will be canceled.

    If there is a system that works in the long term and thousands of people start using it, the easiest solution for the casino would be to remove roulette from its offer.
     
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    Yep, that is why for those professional gamblers who have the most profitable strategies, will always keep theirs a secret.
     
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    not really . theres one who shared hes way in youtube and hes earning with it over decade. He helps others too you can deposit to him and he wins for you
     

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