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Roulette Systems and methods available, will lose because ...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. TwoCatSam

    TwoCatSam Member Founding Member

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    You're quickly becoming annoying.

    You are writing like the fellow who knows nothing but acts like he does HOPING someone will try to find his "secret" and report back to him. That way he will actually profit from someone else's work. Fishing....

    I'm done with you.
     
  2. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Helooo Mr Two Cat Sam.
    With due respect.

    PUHLEEZ...PUHLEEZ...PUHLEEZ...understand....

    I aint need anyone to report to me,
    nor I am trying to fish for information from anyone here.

    I just ask a question,
    I asked...
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    HOW TO AVOID LOSING STREAKS THAT CAUSE LOSSES TO YOUR SYSTEM???
    and take advantage of the so called mean, and averages?

    or in Albalaha words...

    "everything will win but how to handle not so good or worst times"..
    ==============================================

    Only a few people in this planet know the answer to the question above!

    and I am one of them.
    But others are biting their lips, and not telling,
    for why should they?!

    I was invited here, to share, to learn, to debate gracefully.

    But human, as we know them,

    UNWILLING TO LEARN!


    I do not want your answer here...
    I just want YOU to THINK.
    THINK HARD!!!
    VERY HARD!

    Please accept my apology,
    if my question, annoyed u.
    Thanks.
     
  3. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Peace.................
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You can't step outside of probability and simply avoid the losing streaks. Otherwise, people could do the same thing with life. By avoiding the dying streaks, they could essentially, like vampires, live virtually forever.
     
  5. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Dear Dr,

    With respect,
    INSTEAD,
    You should THINK, AND THINK VERY HARD, AND ASK YOUR GOOD-SELF

    ..:"HOW to step outside of probability and simply avoid the losing streaks."
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I think, thank and thunked.

    Perhaps you can explain how to side step probabilty?
     
  7. TwoCatSam

    TwoCatSam Member Founding Member

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    Perhaps you can explain how to side step probabilty?

    Dr. Sir

    I can assure you he is wanting YOU to explain to him how to side-step probability. If he could do it, he'd be out doing it. Liberace never talked about how well he could play piano!

    Sam
     

  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I suspect he knows how to beat the game. I'll send him some money so I can learn his secret.
     
  9. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Nothing changes the future or can foresee that. What we can do best is to estimate the worst possible and prepare ourselves accordingly. Those who are not ready to face a bad session is a daydreamer and a confirm loser.
     
  10. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,
    Thanks for your comments...

    FINALLY , someone finally ask the trillion cents question!!!

    Dear Albalaha,
    U answer it generally right, by your answers, I wonder u are among a few on this planet who knows the answer?!...but I wonder how many members here will want to THINK, about it,
    ============
    tell u this...I think my GURU will MURDER me, if he found out I give the answer here!!!Even hinting generally! GULP!!!heheheee!

    Dr,
    Since my GURU will murder me, if I post the precise answer here, I just give u the general answer.... for u to think hard.
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    this the general outcome when one play in casino, with a system...

    win,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,LOSE!=CUT LOSS,win,win,win,win,
    win,win,win,win,
    LOSE!=CUT-LOSS,
    win,win,win,win,win,
    win,win,win,win,win,
    win,win,LOSE!=CUT LOSS,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,
    win,win,win,win,LOSE!=CUT LOSS,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,
    win,win,win,win,LOSE!=CUT LOSS,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,win,LOSE! CUT LOSSES!!!...at the end lose huge...

    By looking at the above hypothesis, when u think u should GET IN?????
    ==================


    Just tell u a real story,
    in the Kalahari desert, the lioness, just wait and sit low,wait, and wait.... waiting for the gazelle to come nearer, and nearer...then she JUMP and chase and kill the gazelle....SHE DID NOT RUN AFTER THE GAZELLE FOR MILES, for the gazelle will OUTRUN her....

    ====================

    Just wonder how many way to skin an animal?
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I’m truly fascinated by the “hit and run” system players. Players like Beat The Wheel. If you can follow the logic, then you too, will find them to be a magical group of people. Here’s why I find them to be so amazing and enigmatic.


    1. They gamble only in the short term and tell us that our math and basic probability doesn’t apply to them, since they don’t gamble in the long term. They can win by simply tracking win, win, lose. Or in roulette code...w,w,l.
    2. Since they don’t gamble in the long term, they don’t live in the long term. Consequently, they never really age. They’re like vampires! After all, if you only live a little bit at a time, and only exist in the short term, then you can live for a very very long time. Maybe foreveRRRRR!.

    3. Since basic probability doesn’t apply to them , they never run the risk of getting sick or falling. They’re also never in car accidents, so there’s no need for them to ever worry about having to wear a seat belt, or a motor cycle helmet. After all, accidents only happen to people that live in the long term. So accident statistics don’t apply to them. They can even cross the street without having to look both ways!

    4. They’re time travelers. They can travel both backwards and forward in time and can predict when bets are due to win!
    5. They never have to pay a mortgage payment, rent, a car payment, or car insurance, because all of that stuff is for the long term folks. Duh!
    6. They can jump out of plane and never hit the ground.
    7. Lastly, they can run dagum fast! Sooo fast that there aiN’t no way dat the house edge is ever goNNa caTch em! You may only catch a glimpse of them out of the corner of your eye! They’re there for a brief second, and then they hit and run like the wind, off to some secret place that enables them to return at just the right moment when it’s time to win again!




    - Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone
     
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  12. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,

    Dr Sir Anyone Anyone,
    Was I surprised with your answer?

    No...
    I used to feel like u do now.
    Emotional unstable,
    Superiority complex, or worst,
    inferiority complex...

    Until I realized that if I want to learn,
    I must ask proper question, with proper mind set.

    We cant expect others to give us the answer, without hardwork on our part...

    I had read thousand articles, and manually test, with fingers, and mouse clicks, thousands of casino's roulette decision, just to test whether a system is good or bad,..[since I cant programming], I feel frustrated, angry, desperate with all I learned ...
    till one day, a Guru appeared, and show me the way.

    Only then I realised, that all system will lose BECAUSE,..

    SIMPLY....

    a long streaky losses wiped out your BANKROLL.
    So the answer, not in system,
    but in how u understand the BEHAVIOR of win and lose decision.
    and take advantage of it.

    Instead of spitting venom, YOU should ask like this...,
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    BEAT-THE-WHEEL,
    I see that more win session than losses session,
    but losses session cut-losses, will wipe out the winning money,
    I also see that HUGE losses are in unpredictable PATTERN,
    and have no WAY TO PREDICT WHEN THE WINNING SESSION WILL ENDURE,
    or how huge the losing streaks will run!

    so what we need to do to win CONSTANTLY.?
    thanks IN ADVANCE.

    Your Sincerely.
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Beat-the-wheel,

    Since you've discovered how to beat the game, can you tell us how many zillions you've won? How about your guru, has he won zillions?
     
  14. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Dr.
    With Respect
    ok, with this kind of attitude, May God help U.

    Apology if my posting annoyed U.
    Thanks for reading.
     

  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Beat-the-wheel,

    How large do you believe your system's edge is over the casino?
     
  16. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Dr,
    with respect.
    the dreaded 3% EDGE hit, because u bet ALL spins....so when u play every and each spins, u play into the hand of the casino.

    Ok , let me tell u a story, or an example, as U see I am a Chinese, and not vely good, in Englishsih...hehehee

    If I put 10 black, and ONE RED ping pong balls into a bag, and I will pick out a ball without looking, and then replaced that ball, u may bet any way u like...

    1black=lose 1point.
    1red=win 1 point.

    HOW U GOING TO BET TO WIN...CONSTANTLY!?
    answer this riddle, and u nearer to the answer u seek,


    Thanks.
     
  17. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    oops!
    Sorry...

    LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

    There are 10 BLACK, and ONE RED ping pong balls into a bag,
    and I will pick out a ball without looking, and then replaced that ball INTO THE BAG, ..

    I will take out the ball,
    and put back the ball into the bag,
    whether u bet or not,
    and repeat again, and again.

    u MAY bet BLACK ONLY,
    U CANNOT BET RED.

    AND U CAN CHOOSE NOT TO BET ...

    IF......

    black= you win 1point.
    red= you lose 10 point.

    u may bet any way u like...



    HOW U GOING TO BET TO WIN...CONSTANTLY!?
     
  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This isn't logical, even though I admit using my own systems to play - but I digress..
    If you play each and every spin, you face the house edge mathematically.
    If you play once every 10 spins, you still face the exact same house edge.
    If you play once every 100 spins, wait for something specific, play random spins and not every spin, etc - yes - you still face the exact same house edge every time you place a bet. That is math and doesn't change based on the conditions you place on how and when or where to bet.
    I try to base my methods on math, knowing full well that that house edge is there and doesn't change.
    You're comment is wrong - so pointing it out of course. Playing "all" spins or "not all" spins does not change the mathematical edge that the house. I assume though that you know this.

    Although I agree, there are smart ways to bet and play that make it much more possible to walk out 'ahead' - on that note I in no way, shape or form will allow myself to be 'fooled' by anyone claiming to be one of the 'select' few people on the planet that know the secret answer to that question (lol). Sorry, too smart for that.
     
  19. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Helo TurboGenius,
    with respect.

    It is not SECRET answer,
    it is whether u understand it, or not.

    Only few countries has the knowledge to make nuke bomb.
    but others , even have plutonium still SCRATCH THEIR HEAD.

    Only one nation sent men to moon, thats 40+ years ago...

    The same with airliner, Airbus, Boeing,
    or Microsoft, Coca -cola,Apple, Ferrari, etc..

    why their products dominate the world,
    while others still fighting the desert wars, literally war.

    Why this so???

    KNOWLEDGE!

    Knowledge is POTENTIAL POWER!
    with Knowledge , you have the POTENTIAL!

    Knowledge and LAZINESS= God help U.

    Without knowledge ,
    U just complaining, complaining, complaining,
    or worst, try to destroy what others had built with their knowledge.!

    Thats why barbaric nations always want to destroy,
    what other civilization had PAINSTAKINGLY built...
    even today u may see that happen around the world.

    Years ago...
    The best nation in the world make research...
    The willingness to research, testing,hypothesis,educate..

    while other civilization, just happily fighting wars,
    complaining, or just plain LAZY!!!

    Even today, in some part of world..
    u see people live like your forefather live 200 years ago!!!

    What can I do, if someone just plain LAZY to learn?

    I understand that each spin has same edge, bla,bla,bla.
    this already stale when the first casino open for business..
    this is same as EXCLAIMING that..

    "I FOUND OUT THAT THE SUN RISE...at EAST"!!!
    Duh!

    What u refused to understand ...

    If u see them as a SET of spins, say 200spins set/group/session,
    win/loss...yes...the edge still same.

    But the win/loss will ranging from 125win to 69 win.

    Why so?
    Why so?
    Why so?

    why not 100w/100lose, albeit zero,
    in every 200spins set, group, session???

    of course the MEAN, will 50/50 % after thousands or million spins...
    bla, bla bla...arghhhhh,,,stale stuff..

    Ok, youre GENIUS, u ask your computer to search, how many win in 200 spins.
    u may see that the most win, never exceed 130, and the worst not below 60..
    BM casino result please...with rng , u may see 200 zero , maybe...

    Thanks
    Apology if this article annoy u.
     
  20. zengrifter

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    Wrong - all betting schemes lose not due to losing streaks, but due to house edge -EV.
    The losing streaks are no stronger than the winning streaks --
    -- they cancel out each other, and what is left is the -EV.

    [​IMG]
     

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