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Craps TABLE GAME MYTHS: People who practice rhythm rolling can beat the game of Craps.

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Mark V, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    DeMango, these type of posters want to be like their heroes.They never post about how much they lose. They want everybody to live in their la la land. They never get hassled at the tables because the the casinos they play at love their play.
    What does that tell you ? They brag that they are 7 star player.
    I often wonder how much money it took them to lose to reach that status.

    The sad part of it is, that random rollers hit 6 point fire bets all the time. The so-called DI's love to brag when they get lucky and hit one.

    I have to admit the Madprofessor writes the best fiction on playing craps, but at what cost to everybody else that plays the game.

    He always writes that he stays under radar, so much so that there hasn't been one so-called DI'S that has ever ran into him on a real craps table.

    The Mad Professor, and the rest of these guys that love to brag are the reasons why you get hassled at the craps tables. The silly Casinos actually believe the bullshit they write.
     
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  2. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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  3. fish

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    Your best post ever. Missed your insightful crap. Kind of got saturated with Harley's ramblings. Glad you made it back safely.
     
  4. Harley

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    fish - can you quote any of your posts that are conducive to the thought process on the game of craps or any gambling arena ?!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. fish

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    You're right, you caught both of us. It's just my opinion.

     
  6. Harley

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    actually fish sometimes your alter ego fictional "fist" styles confuse me - sometimes they favor Mad Professor and other times they favor irishShxtter -- either way doesn't mater .... 2 peas or sock puppets from the same Heavy pod

    .... and you both like to hide behind your computer monitors
     
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    Please forgive me for confusing you, it is not to difficult. With that being said, I only agree with a minor, minor part of your ramblings. I'll grant you in that in my many travels (i.e. not to Macau) I have occasionaly seen that after a table dumps, new dice are brought out which are not be biased but are very, very dificult to toss in a non-random manner. Ok, now tell us what area you agree with MP, Heavy, Irish, or Frank.
     

  8. Harley

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    fish - none of you have been to Macau so that doesn't help ..... your fist style is nowhere near that of hillbilly Heavy or yankee Frank and too many misspellings for DeadCat - so that leaves just MP and irishshitter ... I know you dropped the "setter" from irish because you didn't like the way DeadCat spelled your name irishShitter

    the problem is your lack of humor is too close to that of the San Francisco stages than the Canadian cold snow ... and your fishy smell is that of a smoky t-shirt ... either way you can be found in the shadows of the Heavy one
     
  9. $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Active Member Founding Member

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    Harley -

    WHY is IT -

    EACH and EVERY time YOU are requested to answer a valid question -

    YOU ALWAYS EVADE the issue -

    YOU are a WIMP !

    And I will supply the ENTIRE FORUM with DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT MY ALLEGATIONS !

    YOU are a useless piece of feces !

    MY OPINION ! Ciao'

    $...eE..$
     
  10. Tony Baloney

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    So let's try to get this straight and try for a summary that makes sense... hopefully. There are a lot of dice charlatans out there, peddling bullshit 'courses'... and pretending that they have the key to the casino vault with their version of Dice Control. But the fact is very, very few people have mastered the mysterious art of Dice Influence, let alone Dice Control. So, yes, DI works and it can be done. But it takes extreme discipline and hard, dedicated work over a long period to attain the skill. Unfortunately, 99.9% of 'marks' are never going to make it... because, well, it's obvious why... So is that a decent start in summary of the Great Dice Throw? ... or what?
     
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  11. DeMango

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    Yup Tony, you nailed it.
     
  12. Tabletop

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    Let me add my .02 cents! You also have to have Very Keen Discipline along with the DI'ng skill. what's really funny is there ARE individuals that have a Natural propensity for Tossing Dice Successfully. It doesn't seem fair to the individual/s that have Practiced & Fine Tuned their abilities endless hours in order to acquire the skill. There are Random(Rhythm Rollers) that get on good rolls just about every Friggin time that they pick up the dice. I've witnessed it with my very own Eyes. It's a Friggin shame to witness someone have MORE success than you, & they don't even Friggin Practice! I think "Luck" plays an integral part of dice influencing. A large Majority of your Throws LOOK pretty, but unfortunately, they are Random. The skilled DI has a VERY small window of opportunity & Influence. This is why you have to be VERY careful with the wagers that you Make. Personally, I HATE the 6/8 Place Bets, Because the Payout is Horrible. However, when you look at the Grand scheme of things, the 6/8 Place Bets SHOULD be Relatively easy for the Skilled Tosser to Exploit. Don't believe me? Try NOT tossing a 6/8 for several Hands, & tell me How much you like it. Now, I Did NOT say that Numbers can be "Sniped, but Because of the talented DI's ability(Allegedly) to toss Longer than normal hands, He/she SHOULD have a Decent advantage over the 6/8 Place Bets. Also, in my opinion(Just returned From Tunica This early Morning), starting a Hand with more than one or two place Bets is a Recipe for disaster. I witnessed several good DI's at Gold strike starting their hands by going "All Across, & as you very well know...... one or two PSO'S, or PPSO'S, & you're "In the Drink". Dice Influencing is probably the Hardest Craft that I've been involved in. I used to play pool about two balls under "World Class" Speed, but ended up getting married, & that was SOON the end of my days Hustling pool on the Road. I'm too old, with Bad eyesight, so I can no longer compete with these "Youngsters" that never miss a Friggin Shot for ten or Fifteen consecutive Racks. With that being said, I've always been rewarded for Playing "Jam Up" Pool, & USUALLY ended up with the cash. Play a perfect, or Near Perfect Pool session, & you're gonna get the Cash. NOT SO with Dice Influencing. You can toss the dice perfectly & still NOT be rewarded. Definitely not for the faint of Heart!!! What's really interesting is the "on axis, "Off axis Bullshit!! Any Reasonable person should know that your dice Don't stay on axis throughout the Roll. I say STOP all the bullshit comparisons between Which is the Best route to take. (On Axis versus "Off Axis") Who REALLY cares, except for the "Schools" that are trying to Peddle their Classes & Material. If you're "Right Side" Shooting, avoid the Hand Ending "Seven Out" As long as you possibly can & Shut the F***k up!!!
     
  13. Frank Scoblete

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    Speaking of pool; my cousin was the late, great Tommy "Foot" Jennings. I remember him practicing endlessly when he was just a child.
     
  14. DeMango

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    So who here came over on the Mayflower?
     

  15. fish

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    One of my carp relatives did indeed.
     
  16. Tony Baloney

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    Yur granpappy is cooked... Rest in pieces

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  17. $nakeEye$

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    I totally concur with " TableTop123 " in his synopsis above -

    ONE thing I wish to ADD his dissertation is the following : If you're shooting " Wrong Side " , cherish / relish / set for and achieve the WINNING SEVEN OUT !
     
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  18. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    If you want to get to the bottom of why we have the so called DI'S just ask Heavy to explain why he is still working and not making all of his income from the tables. Doesn't he need his little hobby to pay for is buy in's? Is the second question I would ask him.
    Now I'm waiting on the attack from Mr AK 47 better known as Heavy or the Madprofessor as I'm driving over to Shreveport play a little Craps.
     
  19. superrick

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    If you want to get to the bottom of why we have the so called DI'S just ask Heavy to explain why he is still working and not making all of his income from the tables. Doesn't he need his little hobby to pay for is buy in's? Is the second question I would ask him.

    TDVEGAS makes some good points when he's questioning anything about DI. Now I'm waiting on the attack from Mr AK 47 better known as Heavy or the Madprofessor as I'm driving over to Shreveport play a little Craps.
     

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