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Roulette The "fallacy" of "Gambler's Fallacy"

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, May 28, 2017.

  1. Fossell

    Fossell Active Member

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    That was funny. I proper lol'd at that!
     
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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm not sure that I understand the details of the "challenge" or the "why" of the challenge.
     
  3. Fossell

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    Of course. Posted about it before. Some mention you cant be a 'professional'. Some mention not using systems etc.

    (And there are no criminals behind bricks and mortar then? ;-) )
     
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  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Online casinos are a regressive tax on the poor and ignorant. Just like cigarettes.
     
  5. Fossell

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    Its criminal marketing! I don't know how much longer they can get away with it.
     
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    Back when I was a rookie (and the US laws were different) I played at Intercasino. I took the "bonus" bullshit and it was a nightmare, never again.

    Ken
     
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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    YAYYYY Intercasino ! Lol. I remember them ! Did they send you a CD in the mail every other week too ? Ha
     

  8. Fossell

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    Thats fucking bollocks and you must know it.

    And the lotteries? At least they have a hell of a realistic higher chance of winning at ANY casino than playing lotteries. If people are, or become gambling addicts then they were always going to find that route somewhere. Most will be doing it for entertainment. An alternative to TV. Hell its even ON tv over here and europe. Every night. (They've gone too far there maybe).

    The facts are people spend hundreds and thousands on their hobbies and tv subscriptions etc every year. For example, if they're not into golf and the thousands an annual membership might cost, then its their choice if they want to gamble online for passive entertainment, or piss that money up the wall every weekend on nights out. Nobody tells a golfer or skier their idiots for wasting thousands a year on THEIR hobby.

    Take bingo! Its a national institution here. Grandmas and even the youth have a night out and enjoy themselves with a small chance of wining fuck all. But they are entertained. And now they can do it online from home. Great if thats there thing! Its no tax on the poor and ignorant. Its a person chosen form of passive entertainment.
     
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  9. AxelWolf

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    I'm suggesting that your number selection is no better than someone/anyone else's.

    Why not? It's free money if your system actually works. You are spending all this time playing for free points, why not make some money?

    Also, this would help convince people you have a system that works. You are thinking small time, at least with your Milking the casino method.
    Under normal circumstances, milking might be the correct way to go. But not in your case, A working system is worth many millions from just playing.

    My challenge is fairly simple, I don't know how I can explain it much better. I mirror the bet amounts and type of bets you are making. I just pick different numbers than you do.

    Pick a reasonable amount of spins, a predetermined number, that way you can't just stop suddenly at any time after a good run).

    If we were to do that 5 times that should take the luck out of it.
     
  10. Fossell

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    I was hoping you'd post a normal wheels results for comparison rather than bias wheel??
     
  11. Fossell

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    Jeez this thread is all over the shop! I need to get back to page one! ;-)
     
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    You were doing something wrong then. They were one of the best places to consistently play bonuses at with +EV. IIRC you would get 1 or 2 per month with reasonable wagering requirements. It was not a lot per bonus, but if you had 6 friends hook you up and let you use they accounts (for a small fee) it was worthwhile.
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    It sounds "simple" but it's not.
    I might bet 1 number 1 spin and 4 numbers the next - a progression or not.
    Unless we are in the same room with a dealer and wheel it's pretty much impossible to do this
    with any accuracy.
    It's probably easier for me to just keep demonstrating the results (the "how" is pretty much completely posted here).
    I'm also not really motivated when it comes to $ - If I won, I would never take the "prize" - I would make sure you had it back. That's not how I am at all. For the sheer challenge of it though, it would be interesting.
    Also - as I've kept repeating, I've been using this in AC and Parx PA (real casinos).
    There's no point in saying it's all "play more" and "toy wheels" because that's not the case. It's fun to play it on the sites, sure. It's not the "whole" though, I'm actually using it with real money.
     
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    If you have a real working system, and you are not just getting lucky(has anyone analyzed your play and figured out what the odds are of you just getting lucky?) You are wasting your time playing small. You are not living up to your potential.
     

  15. TurboGenius

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    Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that in 49 years ? lol
     
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    Consider a 25 unit progression u need to place. You will get the idea of superior selection. Use that amount in any number even the coldest u will come out as winner. Select an any number place 1 unit for 34 spin then 2 unit next 34.until 24 th cycle. In any specific cycle it will hit twice . Finish
     
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    Then why in the hell are you here spilling the secrets instead of in a casino making millions of dollars???? I know why. Because the above quote is a lie!!
     
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    Feel free to throw any number. I will run 24 cycle and show you in which cycle it hit twice
     
  19. Fossell

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    Its not. His principle is correct. Its playability can be improved upon.
     
  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Madi,

    Start by reading on the history of the game, then visit the wizardofodds.com and you'll learn why a progression can't turn a negative expectation game into a positive one in the long run.
     
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