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Baccarat The Final Solution

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Member

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    I think I understand, him using one pattern within the other.
    And I used it separately, right?
    But then it would just be a different variant?
    How did I play the 30 bets right? this is my question!
    Grateful for your explanation.
    And to SPUTINIK I say don't pay attention to these criticisms that someone appears doing. He is at least contributing a lot to better understand strategies to try to win this game.
    Grateful for sharing your knowledge!
     
  2. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    yes I think that's it.
    yes and it appears he has different variants now with the trend stuff on top of the sets or blocks.
    I don't know I didn't look at them all. Looks like you got it.
    yes he's the best. I play differently but I am trying to integrate his stuff with some of the things I do.
     
  3. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Member

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    Thank you Jimske.

    Afterwards, if you can, send me a msg in private.
     
  4. CT70

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    To Sputnik and Jimske, per your requests, attached is my play. Since you both were members of Ellis’ (the snake oil salesman)forum in the past, I’m sure you both understand the reasons/abbreviations for all my bets. You know what LC and MC events and SAP are.
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'll take a look. I hope it shows some proof that RNG I'm not the same as B&M hand dealt.

    But I've never been a member of Ellis or Keith's site.
     
  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So I've been trying to marry Sputnik stuff with my play. Limited success. After about 2300 live wagers am a tad over 53.1% strike rate. Profitable yes but I'm looking to achieve 55%. Doesn't look like the way I'm doing it is going to achieve that
     
  7. CT70

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    I know Sputnik was a member at BTC. I thought you were too because I thought you mentioned “SAP counts”, my bad. Nonetheless, it doesn’t matter.
    As far as RNGs are concerned, there is no way a computer can simulate a real baccarat shoe. Anything that is programmed by a human MUST follow an algorithm of some type. It cannot possibly output a true random outcome and at the same time account for all the cards that get eliminated when the shoe is dealt.
     

  8. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What did those attachments have to do with RNG?

    I don't get it . If you want to promote a strategy why don't you just start your own thread?
     
  9. CT70

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    I’ m not looking to promote anything. Sputnik dared me to explain how I “tackle” baccarat and you so did you. So I’m just showing you what you asked me. This game is not as complicated as Sputnik makes it sound. Every time I see one of his posts, I think I’m reading war and peace. It’s information overload.
     
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  10. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    if you're not promoting that method why are you posting it? And if you think it's such a good winner why not explain the bet placements? You might also give statistics of the shoe win rate , strike rate percentage, number of shoes played and average win per shoe. And out of courtesy you could do this on another thread. Why come in and criticize someone else's efforts? That's a good question for you to answer.

    No I didn't ask you about how you play. I asked you to prove that RNG is different then handheld games. That's all. So instead of doing that you post a few shoes. ???????

    Sidebar: I guess you never read War and Peace. It's become a euphemism for boring to the uneducated. But it's hardly information overload!
     
  11. SPIKE

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    Even to the educated War and Peace is not a page-turner. It's written in the old style where the more words you use the better. Hemingway came along and changed all that forever.
     
  12. panatha

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    i wonder if could be possible send one pv to jimske
    or jimske to me for only one and last time
    i could be very very grateful to jimske about that
    cheers
     
  13. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    yes he did. Simple form in language but deep thought.
     
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    People read Hemingway now and they don't get it. Nobody wrote like him in the early 1920s and now everybody writes like him. Before he was 30 years old his work already being taught in colleges all across the United States and in Europe. That's how revolutionary his writing was.
     

  15. Xytras

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    Curious, why didn't you track P/B separately as far as SAP goes? At least it looks like you didn't. Can you elaborate please?
     
  16. CT70

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    Actually I do track it separately with red color ink for banker and black for player. I just didn’t do it on the cards I’ve posted because I didn’t want to create more confusion. The correct way is track sap separately for each side.
     
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  17. Rond1nell1

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    Hello CT70,
    You could start a thread talking about LC and MC and SAP events.
    I believe that many would be interested, I myself am very interested. And we would avoid polluting this topic with different subjects.
    Success!
     
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  18. Jimske

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    I got a question maybe Sputnik with no one will answer this. Something always bothered me about this.

    Examples say you are betting for a 212. You get OO X O bet X and lose so now OO X OO and bet X and win. Now you got OO X OO X woth a L W. So if you're looking for one of the two elements to repeat do you bet now for X for a OOXOOX X 212 or bet O for OOXOOX O 21211

    ???
     
  19. Sputnik

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    If you betting on a rolling basis oo x o and bet single, lose and next oo x oo and win betting a series of two.
    Now you have oo x oo x you bet for single and if a loss you bet a series of two.
    So if there is a bias you get results like LWWLWLWWWLWLWLW and will end with two loses when a series of three or higher show.

    Hope this help

    Cheers
     
  20. Jimske

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    Just for fun at play this Jew using what I think is the rolling March. I didn't use any stops after a LL and wait for a fictive win for that set.

    I did keep going after a win within a set until the next loss inside that set and then I stopped and waited for the next set.

    If you look I made a notation to show what bet I was playing and what the win-loss was on the third row.

    Just trying to figure out the best way to play this. It seems the only way you get a nice long the winning run is if there's a string of chops. It's hard to win more than two in a row it seems.

    Maybe I'm not playing it right. The show I sent it pretty well in terms of W L IAR but the next shoe not so good. (LLWLWWLLLWLLWWLLLLWWWLLLWWL)

    Anyhow here's the shoe.

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