Roulette The horse race analogy and set completion

i don't know why turbo would say something like this, but this isn't the right way. You can't just pick numbers when you sit down at the table. You could be betting on long term sleapers.
Further more i still believe and turbo have to correct me if i'm wrong, but betting when a number shows is always better then betting numbers that didn't show. So betting repeaters is always a better bet. You can also bet the next 5 out and remove any of those that didn't repeat at the emd of the cycle and raise bets on those that did become a repeater. But i don't know pal, i'm stuck also.

 

The term "natural repeaters" is my just own term.
Basically it is described in the link to Turbogenius 2008 topic.

The way I comprehend is that you choose any number that repeats itself before any other number has repeated.
example

2 oldest
15
19
36
24
18
24
29
13
14
1
22
29
15
06
09 newest

Numbers 15, 24 and 29 have repeated, each with two hits.
But only Numbers 24 and 29 had natural cycles, number 15 did NOT.

 

I've been playing roulette now for over 20 years and followed Turbo since 2005.
Tried hundreds of approaches with repeaters to cold numbers and tried dozens of ways to come to a point that i find a way to always end in profit at one point in my sessions, (turbo says, he does this) always when o tought i was close to this, i failed, failed and failed. Is it possible? to always end your session in profit, nomatter how many sessions you play? I really don't know.
Even if you take 420 spins in a daily BM session, wich is over 8 hours of play, a 1 unit profit everytime you play within these spinframe is a HG! even if it's only 1 lousy unit profit. But the big question for over 200 yeara is, how is this possible in a random game?
Would the awnser kill roulette? don't know.
The only thing i do know is, that we will never know for sure if we have a winning bet or not.
Even if we win 50 sessions in a row, the next 50 could be losers.
I know 2 become a 3 and a 4 etc at one point, but how do we make sure we always end at a new high, mo matter how many spins we play?
Awnser this and we can make money at last.
Don't have the awnser, don't play roulette with real money.
Have a nice day.

 

I know this is not what you want to hear Elvis but no, it is impossible to be in profit in the long run with a system, even +1 unit. At some point it will tank because of variance and more importantly because it does not beat the odds Vs the payout. Casinos are for recreational purpose only.

 

Yes, i think you are right there. Maybe it's just time to quit chasing this dream and only playing roulette once in a while for som fun, when we can affort it. Turbo is saying everytime that he can't lose and that he will keep winning, true? don't know, false, don't know either. But unless he or someone else explains in full detail what he is playing and how it needs to be played and why they can't lose, i'm done searching trying to find the awnser. I has costed too much.

 

every group that goes in hiding posts pretend results, ESPECIALLY when something of value is found ..

 

The whole notion of repeaters is based on the belief that the numbers which have appeared have more chance to appear that any other number.
If this is not correct, then the whole repeaters theory doesn't work. And this is not correct. Every number has the same probability to hit, repeater or not.

 

Hey jek, I thought you were making money or so you said last time I read one of your post at rf.cc you were ready to make a full time job of or something. What changed? How much did it cost?

 

.. the other day the kid was throwing stones, yaeh those flat ones, bouncing off the sea's surface beyond the horizon - into infinity

 

jekhb1976, I thought you had turbos repeaters method figured out.
Thank you for the honesty in saying that you do not.

With all your research, you must be missing one small piece of the puzzle to make this work.
The question then becomes what is that missing piece?

Whatever you choose, best wishes

 

It's not about the numbers.. in my opinion it's about the pattern that always forms.

 

Hi Rona,
That's correct, i did quite well for a while and thought i had it all figured out....Man how wrong i was. Just let me say i lost a lot and not only money, i wanna leave it to that.
But i'm very sorry that i made you all think i had it all wrapt up. I thought so too. Sadly, i'm back at the start once again. Even after more then 20 years of playing, i still don't have a clue to make sure i can always win. And i have to with bago on this one, there isn't a way. Otherwise i would have found it a long time ago. Winning can be a trap also, making you believe you have it.

 

You maybe correct, but until we know what we are looking for exactly, it's like searching like a needle in a hay stack.

 

At one point, i thought i did, until it didn't.
Sure, i could have been on the right track, but that last piece of the puzzle, costed me more then i could afford. So i have a puzzle while the box says it's a 1000 piece one, but everytime i open up the box, i keep finding out there are 500 pieces missing from the box, so the puzzle can't ever be completed.

 

I can asure you, that nothing of value has been found to this day, otherwise i would't have come back here.

 

One way i would play it knowing the data of 185 spins (5 cycles, duable in a bm setting) was using turbo's alternate universe method and a sixth hit as the finish line of my session.

*spin until you have your first repeat.
*bet that number
*start a new umiverse once a repeat comes
*new spin count (previous spins doesn't matter anymore)
*spin until you got another repeat.
*new spin count and bet also that repeat.
*when one of your numbers hit, we raise the amount on that number and also start a new spincount until you get another repeat, then at that one also.
*do this until one of your number hits for the 6th time, then it's end of the session.
*and with in mind that you will have around 15-23 5 hits and 10-13 6 hits at spin 185, the chance is very high that one of your number reaches this before spin 185. and with the alternate universe, you won't be betting too many numbers, because you reset the spincount everytime a repeat comes or when one of you numbers hit.

 

This is where i am at the moment with finding the always in profit net.

 

Thanks for your reply. I find it really strange when people say their method works for like 5K spins or more and then suddenly it doesn't work anymore. But I hear that often.
I'm wondering if your problem was simply a maney management one. Anyway if you would like to tell us your method (the losing one) I would be full of ears.


Do you have a link to that alternate universe method, because I can't say your description is detailed enough.

 

No i don't have the link at hand, but it goes like this......

Remember....
*Start new spincount, meaning that from the moment you got a repeat, everything starts over, only the number that just repeated will be kept.

34
16
8
13
28
30
34 (R)

35
28
5
9
6
34 (H)
36
27
11
25
25 (R)

26
27
29
10
26 (R)

5
28
14
22
31
15
25 (H)
35
12
13
34 (H)
27
30
12 (R)

24
20
9
0
15
17
19
12 (H)
23
33
25 (H)
28
32
9 (R)

3
29
0
36
3 (R)

30
11
36
30 (R)

5
29
12 (H)
26 (H)
17
10
8
8 (R)

25 (H)
28
0
30 (H)
10
10 (R)

10 (H)
0
29
9 (H)
4
3 (H)
23
10 (H)
33
4 (R)

11
13
13
32
25 (H)
10 (H)
35
0
14
31
12 (H)
27
17
35 (R)

32
26 (H)
16
21
19
32 (R)

16
12 (H)
36
10 (H)
28
17
16
27
6
25 (H) end session.
7 hits after becoming a repeat. (spin 114)
+71

 

jekhb,

Would you like to see the system run over 30k spins?
I doubt you'll like the results.