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Roulette The horse race analogy and set completion

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. AudioMan

    AudioMan New Member

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    He said in the other thread "I would also suggest not having the same number(s) in multiple sets.".
    In THIS thread for example 1-6 AND 4-9. They both have numbers 4, 5, and 6. So where does your not correct come in from? As far as not being fixated on the lines for demonstration.....why use an example that goes against the rules and confuses people.
    Btw, I'm trying to learn.
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I think he means for example the 1-6 line being part of the 4-9 line where the one street
    has numbers from each line (4,5,6).
    But like you said - it's for example and demonstration.
     
  3. Smitridel

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    One thing I noticed is that a few spins before each set led me to pick it, there was a storm of hits on it but sticking to the rule of not betting until one number is left I just watched it..
    That could be a chance for a parlay.
    A dominance parlay. Hence a positive progression.

    After all way I see it hotness and coldness is (pattern wise) dominance and the lack of it respectively.
     
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  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The line bets were the easiest to use for the example.
    They each have 6 numbers that make up each set and it seemed to be a good way
    to provide an example. Perhaps I should have done it with each individual line bet that isn't
    connected to others - you are right, it could have seemed confusing.
     
  5. AudioMan

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    Alright thank you. So I have registered into my head to not use the same numbers. Now as far as the sets of 4 numbers, I just took 1-36 and divided them up into 4's for practice purposes (1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and so on). So that gives me 9 sets of numbers. I heard that you play between 1-4 numbers with the average being about 1-2 numbers. However as I'm tracking and waiting for only one number to be remaining in a set, I find that the other sets catch up quite often and what was 4 numbers (4 close to the finish line sets), sometimes is turning into 5 or more numbers. How to combat this so I play a maximum of 4 numbers?
     
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  6. Smitridel

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    Thats Turbo for you. Just to frak your brain up and force you to use your imagination.
    I had a headache after trying to decode the whole random org thingy as it made no sense..
     
  7. AudioMan

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    This is the most helpful Turbo has been in months or years it seems lol. It still isn't crystal clear, but I've never seen him go this far. It seems as if even Bago was supportive in the beginning until he eventually reverted to his old self.
     

  8. Smitridel

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    Well Im on my own pilgrimage on a certain kind of sets but if we take your examples literally you did say bet on the remaining (on the other thread #28 id I remember).

    Which sometimes people have seen that it may be a sleeper - not the patern itself but the last in line (another great song btw!)

    Still kudos for trying to give your very best here taking moments from your schedule to adress any questions and being extremely open with it -it is much appreciated.
     
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  9. Bitrock06

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    my go at it
     

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  10. Jack 1985

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    This is exactly how I interpreted it.

    It’s always difficult to test properly when you don’t know exactly what you’re doing... this also explains my mediocre results.
     
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  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    This horse race analogy is stupid and it's foolish.

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    Suggestion, visit the wizardofodds.com to learn the basics of the game and some basic probability.
     
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  12. Jack 1985

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    Ok, this is now my interpretation.

    After 15 spins, the first opportunity has arrived.

    The first bet will be on the line 28-31 (one unit).

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  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    After 15 spins what has really changed? The same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next, so why should the probability of winning change?

    Logic, it's always in the way.
     
  14. Jack 1985

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    Well, I keep burning through the bankroll in record time (testing of course).

    Always difficult to test something with any degree of accuracy when you don’t quite know what you’re doing.
     

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    Let me help,

    You're doing it wrong.
     
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  17. Jack 1985

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    Yes please! Thank you
     
  18. jekhb1976

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    Ed this is how i understand it how it needs to be played, correct?

    SET 1: (01) (02) (03) (04) 05 (06) (07) (08) (09)
    SET 2: (10) 11 (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) 18
    SET 3: (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) 27
    SET 4: (28) 29 (30) (31) (32) (33) 34 (35) (36)

    1 31 35
    30 30 26
    8 30 4 set 2 has last # left #5 (so we bet #5, wich is the last # in this set (Sleeping number)
    1 31
    16 8 0 (-1)
    36 21 10 (-2)
    0 22 20 (-3)
    13 6 24 (-4)
    6 36 15 (-5)
    1 19 15 (-6)
    12 36 15 (-7)
    28 25 31 (-8)
    12 36 14 (-9)
    16 33 32 (-10)
    2 13 25 (-11)
    9 28 17 (-12)
    21 13 7 (-13)
    12 0 31 (-14)
    3 6 3 (-15)
    31 28 14 (-16)
    25 7 23 (-17) set 3 has also one # left (so we bet #27 wich is the last in this set (wich is still a sleeping #)
    36 5
    32 32 27 win! set 3 has won the race.

    Profit : +17
    drwdwn : -17
    total spins played : 67
     
  19. jekhb1976

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    The same number of pockets remain, yes but it's not about that. It's about knowing that one of these six lines will cross the finish line first!
    This is what this bet is all about, knowing what the future will bring. And we can predict the future outcome.

    There will always (Always!) be 1 horse at first place.
    There will always (Always!) be 1 horse at second place.
    There will always (Always!) be 1 horse at third place.
    There will always (Always!) be 1 horse at fourth place.
    There will always (Always!) be 1 horse at fifth place.
    And there will always be 1 horse last.

    If you play the lines, this will always be the same, nothing can change this, not even random. this is what it is.
    We are talking about a group of numbers, that will perform like i above.

    So my understanding is that start betting when the first group of numbers has only one number left in his set, is our best bet. Predicting this set will be our winner and completes his pattern before the other 5 groups.

    If not, like in my play example, you will have two horses fighting for first place, so what do we do? We bet both. At the end there will always be one winner, no matter what.
    If a third one comes fighting side by side, what do we do? We bet all three.

    Now you know the awnser to my next question. What do we do when all horses are fighting along side????
    We bet all.
    One will win.
    What do we do, when one of our horses has one the race?????
    Well there are still medals to be given out, so we are betting wich horse will come in second! etc etc.

    This is my understanding of what turbo has explained.
    If i'm wrong, well I'm sorry.
    But this is my interpertation.

    Have a nice day.
     
  20. jekhb1976

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    SET 1: (01) (02) (03) (04) 05 (06) (07) (08) (09)
    SET 2: (10) 11 (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18)
    SET 3: (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) 27
    SET 4: (28) 29 (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36)
    SET 3 Horse 27 has won first place (Gold)
    18 19 35 32 2 28 36 7 2 31 32 31 13 3 22 33 23 30
    32 33 34 13 17 19 6 15 4 31 14 25 0 2 35 23 34 15
    20 13 32 28 27 35 33 6 1 (5)
    SET 1 Horse 5 won second place (Silver)
    34 14 32 28 14 35 14 19 24 14 (11)
    SET 2 Horse 11 won third place (Br)
    No need to play the last number, because you
    already know at wich place it will be after it hits.
    If playing groups of 9 numbers, only place 1-3 are important.
     

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