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Roulette The time traveler analogy

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Turbo to be honest, you have a big advantage with your speech... You say what all people need to hear : Yes! It is possible to win money at roulette while those you call misfit say you'll make more money if you spend same time by looking chips on the floor.

    And after pretending for more than a decade that it is possible, it became too hard to go back. Deeper you dig, harder it will be to go out from the hole.
     
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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I guess my "tune will change" once I lose.
    I'll need to lose A LOT to even get close to being + - $0.00
    So until that time, which I expect to never happen, there's no hole to dig out of -
    no reason to go back.
    But that's my own reality and not anyone else's. What do I know.
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's much much much easier to be on the other side.
    The real advantage would be to post nothing, contribute nothing -
    and then say to anyone who does show results "It doesn't work".
    That takes no work at all and everyone can do it !
    You can even pull up nonsense quotes and meme's (not that it's "contributing" but
    heck, it works to get attention)
     
  4. Smitridel

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    Reading all that, one question comes to mind: Why?
    Why is he "obligated" to give out the whole system?
    If you are inspired by his ideas/views on random go ahead make something of your own.

    Even after 15 years of following him, you should know that he will never reveal it fully (for reasons of his own), so why the whole drama?
    Also dont forget that in these last 15 years he's gone through some changes in tactics as well (cold to hot although same in principle they require a different approach).

    All in all, the guy is taking all that crap from others and still returns to posting his ideas on random.
    Take it for what it is - get inspired or not, it's your choise.
    Just dont expect someone to hand you a fully fledged system.
     
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  5. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Here's my contribution: there is 37 pockets but you're paid 35+your winning bet =-2.7% That's the math.

    You 're pretending that despite this reality it is possible to win. Then you must be the one to bring the proof and contribute and you got two options to do so.

    1/ Open an account online and show that you can win durably with your fanclub 's money or yours.
    2/ Show the math that breaks the reality upper.

    But you just turn around, turn around and turn around... that's actually the easy thing.
     
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  6. Jefra

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    It is tragi comical to see all these attacks on Turbo. All blame Turbo for their own faults or lack of comprehension different ideas and now expect all served on silver plate. HUH.
    With attacks you guys go nowhere and do only worse to yourself!!
     
  7. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to sign "a Turbogod 's fan who wants to know the secret of his big martingale."
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    We've covered this - "beating a dead horse"
    Any positive results : "Not enough spins"
    Proof level = 0 (the misfit's favorite reply to any winning situation)
     
  9. Jefra

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    Lol, Sharptracker, I know all what need to know, but it is pity that you don't ;-)
     
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  10. Sharptracker

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    Jefra, i guess you pretended the same thing when it was about Vb, right? After several spanks you changed your mind right? It seems you just don't know enough about turbogod system...

    Turbo, just make it and let me see how you dominate the variance and house edge... I got limits to say it is enough spins or not acording to the number of "numbers" you bet. Flat bet or martingaling also influence the fork of spins... I just need to know this... But understand you're the one who claim a nonsense, something that goes against a math reality... It is normal that you're the one to prove it. I gave you the two options.

    At least it makes more sense to play online for your fanboys like Jefra, than for playmoney and print your best score to keep it in the living room...
     
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  11. Jefra

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    Sharptracker, stop playing idiot!!! Who are you that someone need to prove you anything?
     
  12. Sharptracker

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    Well i 'm just not naive... If you want i can make an analogy to explain you despite the gravity (house edge) and with a certain way to move my arm (the system) i can fly (beat the roulette). You don't believe me? you're a naysayer bro! but should't i be the one to prove what i say and show myself flying into the air?

    I have an opinion based on a math reality. Turbo has another opinion that goes against that math reality. Do you see 37 pockets? Are you paid 35 plus your bet? Is it giving -2.7%? Yes that is right...

    If you claim you still can make profit despite the reality then you have to prove it, do not call people misfit or naysayers or mathboyzs because they point you a reality, you are the one to prove what you claim instead making people believing and make them working for absolutely nothing at the end...
     
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  13. jekhb1976

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    One of the best posts this week!
    We are just tired of running around in circles with turbo giving every run a new clue, but the clues are endless, with no math to back it up. explaining why this can't lose.
     
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  14. jekhb1976

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    Guys, i'm not saying i don't want to believe turbo is right, that he has a method wich can't lose. Trust me, i would like to. But i think it's time for showing math instead of clues.
    I roulette, most of the time you could be right, but it is just those few times that you are not right, you lose.
     

  15. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    WHY didn't I think of this sooner ????
    I should have merch !!!!!!!!
    Fan Club members could get 50% off...... Misfits pay full price !
    I can roll these out for $120.00 so get those orders in NOW.

    [​IMG]

    I'll get the colors custom and if you don't want the "OO" then FINE -
    be a single 0 fan !
    Remember, order early and order often - supplies unlimited.
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    20 casinos for cheating - but then I found TurboGenius and won a million dollars
    before losing my shirt. Thanks to the TurboFanClub I now have a SHIRT again !
    Thanks Turbo"
    Mary P. Deadhorse AK

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    *Testimonial is fictional and not from an actual TurboFanClub member.
     
  16. Jefra

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    No Sharptracker, I not care if you can fly, so no need for any proof ;)

    But what concerns Turbo's proofs is something other!! It is more like, give me a proof/system for free so I could win on roulette too.

    But funny is that he in past already gave too many hints about his methods, but only very few understood them. So far I only know for one guy who comprehended basic idea, and he is not Jekhb or Frodo or Mako,....
     
  17. Bago

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    It was supposed to be a book to educate us, what a swindle.
     
  18. Sharptracker

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    Turbo, instead a testi... i recommend you to use rarety principle and the fact they'll lose an opportunety:

    My system in the superbook for the first 500 naives to win at roulette for x$, after nobody will know the Secret (Secret is a very important word)...

    After this you can offer your shirt as a bonus and to help the 500 naives to recognize each other...
     
  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well, the book is free (well, not for me) and isn't merchandise.
    I guess I could autograph the book and throw in a shirt for $150
    Let me talk to my agent and see what he thinks.
     
  20. Jerome

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    Turbo,

    I'm glad you posted this because I've raised the issue before (and you ignored it). Some time ago I pointed out that even though you have never posted step-by-step instructions on how to play your grail(s), it shouldn't matter as long as we're following the principles. Isn't this what you are urging us to do? If the principles are sound then omitting some particular detail or other - such as betting on 5 numbers rather than 4 - shouldn't be so crucial as to make the difference between losing at the expected rate, and being a consistent winner. If the success of a system depends on the small details (which only you know), then the principles in question (ie, hot numbers etc) aren't really sound principles, are they?

    If members like Ka2 and jekhb have been testing a wide variety of systems based on those principles for years, but all have failed, can you give us a reason to not increasingly believe that those principles are in fact fallacies?
     
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