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Baccarat The way Baccarat should be approached

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Craps, May 9, 2019.

  1. DatsKamfa

    DatsKamfa New Member

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    I just learned baccarat quite several months, but been playing almost everyday consistently, and now im not in good shape, but in my experience and observation, its more likely you're going to win some, either small or big, if you just follow the trends using the old fashion virtue which is PATIENCE. Sure there will be days that it won't work, but in the long run it would outnumbered the losing days in big proportion just by seeing its chances.. The problem that i see being inside the casinos is the anxiety, and patience is our only weapon.. The casino gamble psychologically, because THEY believe its human nature that were destined to be tempted, and we gamblers/players only battling with ourselves not the casino.. That's why even one person can hit the jackpot, the casino are not bothered cause chances are, the money will eventually going back to them, its just a matter of time..
     
  2. DatsKamfa

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    Im not a PRO or anything, but i totally believe this.. Its like anyone can be lucky at times, but if anyone being lucky so many times ridiculously and consistently, it must be SKILL.
     
  3. DatsKamfa

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    May i know what those acronyms stands for?
     
  4. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    OLD = Opposite last decision. So if the last decision was Banker, you would bet Player if you were following OLD.

    DBL = Decision before last. So if the last two decisions were Banker and Player with Player as the last decision, DBL would be the Banker because it was the second last decision.

    FLD = Follow the last decision. So if the last decision was Player, you would bet Player if you were following FLD.

    There are a few more acronyms along similar lines such as ODBL (Opposite decision before last) etc..

    If you can get hold of an old book by Frank Barstow called 'Beat the Casino', then I am pretty sure it runs through all these types of different bets and offers a few suggestions on how to play them.
     
  5. walkingman

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    This is a fallacy.

    For trend players, do tell, how many hands constitutes a trend??

    I've asked this over and over, nobody is willing to answer!!

    2 by 2 by 2 by 2 is a trend, when did you notice them? When did you make your move?

    Chops are a trend, streaks are a trend. How many hands are shown before you say "oh there is a trend" I will follow?

    Take any number of hands that constitutes a trend, 'any', then take a set of binary tables, you will soon notice that there are more ways for 'any' trend to NOT continue, than to continue, or did you only make a single independent non-correlated 50-50 bet? Unless you are physic and were on the trend after the first hand.[/QUOTE]


    My answer to all of the above come from I learned in GG a post from DozenBettor - Pattern Capturing style
    Eg. 1. Wait for 2 player and bet accordingly if losses twice change to BB
    2. If you encounter a LW then wait for a loss then bet chop accordingly
    3. 2-2 is handle separately
    I have some many improvement I made on this matter I like it very much Try it this very good way to play baccarat My advice is to control your loss bet amount to 3 unit and winning bet also to 3 units so that you will protect the bank roll the KING. By following modest goal per shoe then and abandon it for other shoe you will be ahead most of the time. Believe me because this my method until to date COVID 19 Pandemic
    This is my first post on this forum.
     
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  6. walkingman

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    My answer to all of the above come from I learned in GG a post from DozenBettor - Pattern Capturing style
    Eg. 1. Wait for 2 player and bet accordingly if losses twice change to BB
    2. If you encounter a LW then wait for a loss then bet chop accordingly
    3. 2-2 is handle separately
    I have some many improvement I made on this matter I like it very much Try it this very good way to play baccarat My advice is to control your loss bet amount to 3 unit and winning bet also to 3 units so that you will protect the bank roll the KING. By following modest goal per shoe then and abandon it for other shoe you will be ahead most of the time. Believe me because this my method until to date COVID 19 Pandemic
    This is my first post on this forum.[/QUOTE]

    I use 4 MM of the above system one is Mongoose which is 3 units is the max amount
     
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  7. Ravinderchawla

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    I use 4 MM of the above system one is Mongoose which is 3 units is the max amount[/QUOTE]
    Hi, Can u kindly elaborate, with an example, incorporating ur MM, ur cooperation is appreciated, thanks
     
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  8. walkingman

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    Hi, Can u kindly elaborate, with an example, incorporating ur MM, ur cooperation is appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]

    Baccarat is OLD (BP or PB) , DBL ZZ or 2-2 or Double Chop (BBPP or PPBB) , Streaks (PPPP or BBBB)
    Hi, Can u kindly elaborate, with an example, incorporating ur MM, ur cooperation is appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]

    I m in favor using multiple MM vs single Long Progression Also Im using Negative MM + Mongoose or the Boxer (Max bet of 3 units ) if the shoe is streaking . My goal Per shoe is only 20% of my bankroll. Playing four bet selection Pattern capturing is very good to achieved my quota it could only takes 5 minutes to get it done mostly when the pattern it captured and abandon the shoe. Time is always against us and casino has unlimited Money I always navigate 4 shoe per day. Follow the streak MODE BB or PP and bet twice lose after switching stop the only trigger you watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL and also you have to watch the trigger for 2-2 to switch to 2-2 MODE . Any of the four MODE can make you easily win your 20 % if Practice Practice Practice in your Home. Search and study there are lot of post that can you relate this method. That is the basic of my system and winning 4 x 20% per day is my daily goal.
     
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  9. walkingman

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    Baccarat is OLD (BP or PB) , DBL ZZ or 2-2 or Double Chop (BBPP or PPBB) , Streaks (PPPP or BBBB)

    Hi, Can u kindly elaborate, with an example, incorporating ur MM, ur cooperation is appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]

    I m in favor using multiple MM vs single Long Progression Also Im using Negative MM + Mongoose or the Boxer (Max bet of 3 units ) if the shoe is streaking . My goal Per shoe is only 20% of my bankroll. Playing four bet selection Pattern capturing is very good to achieved my quota it could only takes 5 minutes to get it done mostly when the pattern it captured and abandon the shoe. Time is always against us and casino has unlimited Money I always navigate 4 shoe per day. Follow the streak MODE BB or PP and bet twice lose after switching stop the only trigger you watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL and also you have to watch the trigger for 2-2 to switch to 2-2 MODE . Any of the four MODE can make you easily win your 20 % if Practice Practice Practice in your Home. Search and study there are lot of post that can you relate this method. That is the basic of my system and winning 4 x 20% per day is my daily goal.[/QUOTE]

    If you are in CHOP MODE you can only change MODE if you lose 2 bets ACCUMULATIVE this is very important to catch the CHOP streaks
     
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  10. Ravinderchawla

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    I m in favor using multiple MM vs single Long Progression Also Im using Negative MM + Mongoose or the Boxer (Max bet of 3 units ) if the shoe is streaking . My goal Per shoe is only 20% of my bankroll. Playing four bet selection Pattern capturing is very good to achieved my quota it could only takes 5 minutes to get it done mostly when the pattern it captured and abandon the shoe. Time is always against us and casino has unlimited Money I always navigate 4 shoe per day. Follow the streak MODE BB or PP and bet twice lose after switching stop the only trigger you watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL and also you have to watch the trigger for 2-2 to switch to 2-2 MODE . Any of the four MODE can make you easily win your 20 % if Practice Practice Practice in your Home. Search and study there are lot of post that can you relate this method. That is the basic of my system and winning 4 x 20% per day is my daily goal.[/QUOTE]

    If you are in CHOP MODE you can only change MODE if you lose 2 bets ACCUMULATIVE this is very important to catch the CHOP streaks[/QUOTE]
    Hi, thanks for the explanation but still not clear, Let me quote an Example
    1) Trigger for following streaks is PP/BB
    2) ONE LOSS(L) EXAMPLE : PPB/BBP or PPPB/BBBP
    3) TWO LOSS(L) EXAMPLE ???
    I didn't understand, "bet twice lose after switching, Stop the only trigger u watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL, Kindly elaborate with example of Pattern showing "LWL" Mode for Switching to Chop &;after how many 2×2's ( trigger) we start betting on 2×2 pattern?
    3) What is ur Bankroll/ STOP loss per shoe
     
  11. walkingman

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    If you are in CHOP MODE you can only change MODE if you lose 2 bets ACCUMULATIVE this is very important to catch the CHOP streaks[/QUOTE]
    Hi, thanks for the explanation but still not clear, Let me quote an Example
    1) Trigger for following streaks is PP/BB PP BET P LOSE BET P AGAIN LOSE 2 LOSSES CHANGE TO OTHER SIDE BET B AND LOSE STOP. YOU ONLY CHANGE TO OTHER SIDE IF YOU ENCOUNTER TWO LOSSES OR A LOSS AND WIN WAIT FOR 1 1 1 PATTER TO SWITCH TO CHOP
    2) ONE LOSS(L) EXAMPLE : PPB/BBP or PPPB/BBBP
    3) TWO LOSS(L) EXAMPLE ???
    I didn't understand, "bet twice lose after switching, Stop the only trigger u watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL, Kindly elaborate with example of Pattern showing "LWL" Mode for Switching to Chop &;after how many 2×2's ( trigger) we start betting on 2×2 pattern? 2-2 PATTERN IS VERY OBVIOUS IN ACTUAL PLAY YOU CAN SWITCH
    3) What is ur Bankroll/ STOP loss per shoe[/QUOTE] 36 - 40 UNITS i PLAY USING 20 UNITS ONLY WIN OR LOSS
     
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  12. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, thanks for the explanation but still not clear, Let me quote an Example
    1) Trigger for following streaks is PP/BB PP BET P LOSE BET P AGAIN LOSE 2 LOSSES CHANGE TO OTHER SIDE BET B AND LOSE STOP. YOU ONLY CHANGE TO OTHER SIDE IF YOU ENCOUNTER TWO LOSSES OR A LOSS AND WIN WAIT FOR 1 1 1 PATTER TO SWITCH TO CHOP
    2) ONE LOSS(L) EXAMPLE : PPB/BBP or PPPB/BBBP
    3) TWO LOSS(L) EXAMPLE ???
    I didn't understand, "bet twice lose after switching, Stop the only trigger u watch to switch to CHOP mode is LWL, Kindly elaborate with example of Pattern showing "LWL" Mode for Switching to Chop &;after how many 2×2's ( trigger) we start betting on 2×2 pattern? 2-2 PATTERN IS VERY OBVIOUS IN ACTUAL PLAY YOU CAN SWITCH
    3) What is ur Bankroll/ STOP loss per shoe[/QUOTE] 36 - 40 UNITS i PLAY USING 20 UNITS ONLY WIN OR LOSS[/QUOTE]
    Hi, Kindly tell me W/L, if following Patterns occur
    1) PPBBP. W/L ? & What to bet next
    2) PPPBBP W/L ? & What to bet next
    3) PB. W/L ? What to bet next
    4) PBP W/L ? What to bet next
    5) PPPBP W/L. What to bet next
     
  13. walkingman

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    36 - 40 UNITS i PLAY USING 20 UNITS ONLY WIN OR LOSS[/QUOTE]
    Hi, Kindly tell me W/L, if following Patterns occur
    1) PPBBP. W/L ? & What to bet next first PP bet P L bet P L 2-2 switch P W
    2) PPPBBP W/L ? & What to bet next first PP bet P W bet P L Bet P L switch to B L stop betting
    3) PB. W/L ? What to bet next No bet wait for BB or PP
    4) PBP W/L ? What to bet next it No bet wait for BB or PP
    5) PPPBP W/L. What to bet next[/QUOTE] PP bet P W bet P L bet P W
     
  14. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Kindly tell me W/L, if following Patterns occur
    1) PPBBP. W/L ? & What to bet next first PP bet P L bet P L 2-2 switch P W
    2) PPPBBP W/L ? & What to bet next first PP bet P W bet P L Bet P L switch to B L stop betting
    3) PB. W/L ? What to bet next No bet wait for BB or PP
    4) PBP W/L ? What to bet next it No bet wait for BB or PP
    5) PPPBP W/L. What to bet next[/QUOTE] PP bet P W bet P L bet P W[/QUOTE]
    Hi thanks a lot it is now crystal clear, just a question What to play if pattern PPBBB occurs Next lets say pattern 5) PPPBP, occurs we STOP as u mentioned now if P occurs next we play P for streaks or if B occurs next we play P for chops, Am I correct or wrong Next if Pattern PPPBBP occurs we STOP,as u mentioned what if next hand is P or B what do we bet ? kindly clarify, Secondly on which Patterns u imply neg progression & Positive progression, thanks.
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    An informative topic " How Not to play the game of Baccarat".


    All beginning is hard.
     
  16. walkingman

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    PP bet P W bet P L bet P W[/QUOTE]
    Hi thanks a lot it is now crystal clear, just a question What to play if pattern PPBBB occurs Next lets say pattern 5) PPPBP, occurs we STOP as u mentioned now if P occurs next we play P for streaks or if B occurs next we play P for chops, Am I correct or wrong Next if Pattern PPPBBP occurs we STOP,as u mentioned what if next hand is P or B what do we bet ? kindly clarify, Secondly on which Patterns u imply neg progression & Positive progression, thanks.[/QUOTE]


    Next if Pattern PPPBBP occurs we STOP,as u mentioned what if next hand is P change Mode 2-2 or B bet B what do we bet ?
     
  17. walkingman

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    Hi thanks a lot it is now crystal clear, just a question What to play if pattern PPBBB occurs Next lets say pattern 5) PPPBP, occurs we STOP as u mentioned now if P occurs next we play P for streaks or if B occurs next we play P for chops, Am I correct or wrong Next if Pattern PPPBBP occurs we STOP,as u mentioned what if next hand is P or B what do we bet ? kindly clarify, Secondly on which Patterns u imply neg progression & Positive progression, thanks.[/QUOTE]


    Next if Pattern PPPBBP occurs we STOP,as u mentioned what if next hand is P change Mode 2-2 or B bet B what do we bet ?[/QUOTE]

    My english is crooked very hard to explain Maybe I had violated their rules for many post unrelated to main topic
     
  18. Roubacc

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    what do these abbreviations stand for? Can you pls explain? Thx
     
  19. Roubacc

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    Nice post. Thx
     

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