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Baccarat Tool for renting , no need to send me any money upfront

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by victor nguyen, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    the word is rat holing .
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It is important to bring the propre bankroll to the table.


    Even for that are requirements .
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    None of that unit reply is acceptable .
     
  4. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Recent painful shoe, would be interested how your MM did, tnx


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  5. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Looks like -3 flat betting or +35 with Grand Martingale. Subtracting commission would bring both down somewhat, especially on the GM. This is using the strategy that I did well with earlier this year. Not perfect but better than swallowing every loss. The better your bet selection is the better you will do.

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    This is the MM breakdown.

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    <resume betting for one decision - if loss pause again>
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    W <virtual>
    W <virtual>
    <resume betting for two decisions - if lose both pause again>
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    <resume betting for two decisions - if lose both pause again>
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    This continues until you get an actual win. Once you have an actual win you reset and resume betting until you have three losses in a row, then start the virtual betting ladder again. Only the first re-entry has the single bet attempt. Subsequent re-entries have double bet attempts.
     
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  6. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Thank you for this...

    Do you have the grand marty breakdown?

    I was able to recover with a few units profit but got into some big fibo bets but I was playing $20ish base units so not so big for my bankroll , was playing the Junket King 7 prestacked followed by Fibo regression if needed
     
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  7. JacobBlaze

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    Here's with a conservative Junket King Fibo Regression.. conservative because I only made bets that would put me at +1, or even in order to keep bets low


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    L 1 -1
    W 2 +1
    L 1E
    W 2 +2
    L 1 +1
    W 2 +3
    L 1 +2
    L 2 E
    L 3 -3
    W 5 +2
    L 1 +1 (normally this would be 3 bet)
    W 2 +3
    L 1 +1
    L 2 -1
    L 3 -4
    W 5 +1
    W 1 +2
    W 1 +3
    L 1 +2
    L 2 E
    L 3 -3
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    W 8 E
    L 1 -1 (normally this would be a 5 bet)
    L 2 -2
    L 3 -5
    L 5 -8
    L 8 -13
    W 13 E
    W 1 +1
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    W 8 -2
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    W 13 -2
    L 3 -5
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    W 1 +1
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    W 1 +3
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    W 1 +5
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  8. JacobBlaze

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    Using your virtual win ideas and 3 loss pauses.... fibo regression


    L 1 -1
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    L 1 -1
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    L 1 +1
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  9. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Jae's Oscars Grind


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    L 4 -9
    L 4 -13
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    W 4 -13
    W 5 -8
    W 6 -2
    L 3 -5
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    L 3 -11
    L 3 -14
    W 3 -11
    L 4 -15
    L 4 -19
    L 4 -23 (JAE Entry point)
    L 4 -27
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  10. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    One mistake but it probably won't make that much difference. I will fix it.

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  11. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    If you cannot get 10 steps I would not do it. It would be difficult and costly at brick and mortar casinos. The last 3 steps you lose money after commission on banker bets so I beef up those levels with extra units. Also I don't like to go into the next shoe with the progression so I stop when I win on or after decision 39 (ignoring ties). Personal preference.

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    L -1 (+4)
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  12. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    JacobBlaze, your sequence was not really that bad, only 5 losses in a row max. Where the pausing and virtual betting ladder really saves you is when you have long losing streaks like 10 or 15 in a row.
     
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  13. JacobBlaze

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    I.saw that but isn't that the third reentry attempt?

    This is the first one.


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  14. JacobBlaze

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    Thanks, yeah brick and.mortar here would be very hard to play even at $20 level here I think the limits are $20 / $2000 so can't bet past the 63 level anyway
     
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  15. fathead

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    Once I have a win, I reset the whole thing. In other words WWW on first re-entry attempt or WWW or WWLW on subsequent re-entry attempts gives you your win and reset. Then you would start over watching for a LLL to pause, then WW then bet once ... if lose WW bet up to twice. But it is not set in stone, you could change it around to your taste.
     
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  16. JacobBlaze

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    Ok got you now, thanks
     
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  17. JacobBlaze

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    Another of my tough shoes this week, I recovered on the end but was down 114 units and had to make consecutive 19,21,20,23,22,27,32,30,26,26,12 bets, had that nice 5 win streak on the end

    I'm playing a standard labby start at 1123 etc

    I will replay using your method..




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  18. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Fathead,

    30loss, 23win flat bet

    Attempt at your MM came out -1, but avoided that 8 straight loss

    I will play with one of my normal and one of my great shoes to see how much profit your MM gives up for the.added safety...thanks




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    I still thin k that the labby is a very VERY inefficient style to utilize at the baccarats. Some times yer require to win 5, 6 7+ wager to complete a string, and worse if yer bettin only on bankers sometimes yer gonna end up in a deficit after accounting for vig. I know firsthand cuz I actually used a labby when I fisrt start playin baccarats for my fulls-time gig, hey hey.
     
  20. JacobBlaze

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    Sox...

    The 34% win requirement.was.the initial allure and I haven't busted it yet but I only been live testing the last few weeks and enjoying a nice upswing...but had 3 close call shoes that I didnt like the big bet escalations, I haven't tried splitting the labby and recovering (like your boyfriend Junky lol) and am sure that it will win eventually recover as my bet selection is normally between 40 to 60% currently and picks up those NIce long win strings,

    Can you post or send me.in the direction of your 13 parlay MM?

    Thanks
     

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