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Baccarat Trending with Domination and Parlays!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by eugene, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    Ok Sputnik, no problem, I do have the Zumma shoes somewhere and I can do the first 100 out of them. You are right, it would be interesting to see. Thanks!
     
  2. Rinad

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    great work here, I will take a closer look to see the biggest draw down you encountered but it does not look that bad.

    R.
     
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  3. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Rinad, that's appreciated.
     
  4. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    100 Real Shoes - see attachment

    Sputnik's Variant

    Rules:

    1) When there are 4 overrepresented events with 1 underrepresented event in any combination, bet for a strike to continue until two loses.

    That's it - now the testing begins ...
     

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  5. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Sputnik :)

    Shoe 1 started nicely... +13

    99 to go...:D
     
  6. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Shoe -7, hand@ 25 result B & hand@26 result player,we are supposed to leave & not play, I am a bit confused Can u kindly clarify,reason for placing bets on hand 25 & 26
     
  7. TLF

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    Appreciate what you've done here Eugene. Very clever and looks to work well. Simplicity, brilliant. Are we going to see/learn what's quoted or has this now turned into Sputnik's thread of ideas?
     

  8. RickK

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    Very nice work getting this started and moving forward Eugene and for Sputnik adding to it. Good Luck Guys.
     
  9. jbs

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    It's a loser, just like every other system. I'd never use it!
     
  10. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    Eugene and Sputnik,

    I have begun testing with an offshoot idea of my own, but it also takes current dominant trends and plays them accordingly. So far, through two shoes - and I know it’s early so all the naysayers can take it easy - up 14.4 units after tax.

    I also applied a fairly mild progression that may be slightly more aggressive than eugene’s parlay, and it has won over 30 units on those two shoes.

    Could just be blind beginner’s luck, but we shall see. Like what you said Eugene, when those losses start piling up you wonder if they’re ever going to stop or what the effect will be on the overall shoe, but riding it out, the trends end up pulling you through.

    I can’t begin to thank the two of you for the effort you’ve made on this particular thread. It’s been incredible information. Sometimes less is more in terms of the selection.
     
  11. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Eugene - hope all goes well - I will make my own topic - don't want to interrupt your topic.

    Cheers
     
  12. judge

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    Eugene, do you recommend a win/loss, or playing the entire shoe? Thanks again for you informative post.

    Mark
     
  13. Rinad

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    the average loss in a shoe being -2/-3 tells me I would not have a problem raising a base bet to 2 units after being -6 units. that is the advantage of not doing a negative progression playing a method, you have a lot of upside room.
    a parlay with a base bet of 2 units will win you 6 units with a single win, (2x3=6), nice take.
    but that may not be a "must do" if long term you can see that recuperating 6/10 units can be achieved in just a couple of shoes staying at one level. the simplest is often the easiest to handle. good job Guys for the time you have taken to share.
    Cheers
    R.
     
  14. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Waiting for u to run Cheat sheets, thanks
     

  15. judge

    judge Active Member

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    Waiting for the last part you mentioned last week. I think the -1's give everyone a little trouble. Thanks again for your help.
    Mark
     
  16. Xytras

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    Thanks for your thread, Eugene!

    Just curious about this situation copied from your shoe #2

    B W
    P L -1
    P L -1
    P P-dom W
    B L -1
    B L -1
    B B-dom W
    P L -1
    P L -1
    P
    P P-dom W
    P W +3

    You had two instances of 32 formation but you've played them differently

    #1 PPP BB (B)(here you deemed B dominant and placed a bet on B)
    #2 BBB PPP (P) (here you've placed a bet on P(dominant) but after a third P

    Any reason why you played them differently?

    Thx
     

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