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TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Dec 4, 2021.

  1. Ka2

    Ka2 Active Member

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    You really think
    TRD Thread?
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

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    What is wrong with this approach? Think of the dealer as the dart player throwing the dart, muscle memory, he keeps throwing the ball simalar speed making it land on same numbers? Or is it known as the dealers signature?
     
  5. Median Joe

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    It's a viable strategy IF you can correlate past numbers with dealer actions and other physical variables. But system players don't do that or even attempt it, they just use past numbers, which on their own are worthless.
     
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    Think himself...you serios think that are such muscle memory ? And even if it is - that it can be main factor ?
    I several times tried train young basket players to throw to basket. Ok here can be something similar to movement memory, but really main is absolutely not that and what is is not some secreet - read any basket book, or maybe the same are in darts books, for sure that is in books about bowling.
    But here is main difference - if darts player, basket player can influent to result, dealer - cant ! And any dealers signature - normally not exsist. dealer can throw with similar result only if are some very strong reasons for that, - so main is not dealer - but these reasons !
     
  7. gizmotron

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    1. -- Just have to ask. Are Martians watching over the wheel and shooting them with their math zapper ray guns? At least the ballistics and physics guys would have to admit that it's just velocity, acceleration, gravity, misdirection, and shallow slot boundaries that cause the randomness. To answer you there is everything to read. That is done by cognitive stimuli to syntax with recognition of common reoccurring feature formations. You might want to say that was just snake oil. But I see it as you wearing mathematical blinders. Just because you can't read situational awareness does not mean that it does not exist. You are self reinforcing a mathematically based magical fallacy. One I might add that has no mathematical reinforcement to begin with. I'd have to say that this condition is evidence of an intellectual failing. The math does not exist yet that confirms the already validated Reading Randomness.

    2. -- Where is the math? That's right. Where is the math. That's what I have been saying for years. You math guys are so smart that you can't believe that an original great idea would just fall into your lap. It violates basic human nature. That is exactly why I did it. I knew it would be unbelievable and therefore rejected. You guys are easy to read as well. I have programmed others for success and I have programmed you to flip out on your abacus with the other bean counters. "What's in your head Zombie?"
     

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    You have it. That is exactly what I'm doing. But I'm only pretending that it matters. You think I think it really does matter. I'm taking a false reality and using it to identify situations when it appears to be working. Now why do you always leave that part out? Do you have an ear infection? Hey dumbshit! Wake up! I'm using the illusion of formation recognition to show when it is in a condition of the appearance of it working. Now you math guys have no power over me to stop me from using it. I can't get you to see this. It's you that is a lamebrain. How do you know that virtue signaling winning at Roulette does not work? It allows you to lose all the spins that probability suggests. It's allows for conditional success regardless of magical mathematical expectations. It's like saying we are going to get in a plane and fly to Vegas. So fasten your seatbelts and hang on to a banana peel with your ear. Catch a fish with a tractor, and plow your best friends girl with a rubber band to drive the prop. I don't enjoy talking with a guy who claims to be smart but can't listen.
     
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    A perfect repeating pattern that lasts for an hour is not worthless. A repeating mathZombie is worthless.
     
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    It's called apophenia : Apophenia has also come to describe a human propensity to unreasonably seek patterns in random information, such as can occur while gambling.

    True, maybe I don't have situational awareness, but even if I did, if I saw meaningful connections between spins it would still be apophenia.

    Ok, no math then. Thanks for the heads up, and let me know when you've worked it out.
     
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    Well, I'm not the one who claims to have a higher IQ than Einstein. He can't listen either, but he's on your side of the fence. It comes down to math phobia doesn't it? You hate and fear it because you don't understand it, so you attack it. The Alices accept that math works for everything else, even if they don't understand it, but when it comes to their cherished beliefs about systems, suddenly it's all wrong. :rolleyes:
     
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    This is perfect. You Joe have walked the path of every other math oriented sucker that won't listen. It's just like talking to a liberal. I did notice that you still can't deal with this. You deflected and came up with "Apophenia ." Since you like labels you need to stay the loser that you must be. After all RR is Apophenia to you. Blind as a bat, even when you are told what it is.

    You go on ignore.
     
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    I dont recall ever reading Turbo posting a "step by step" system , so how can anyone said it doesn't work ?
     
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    Gizmo, already validated? By who? Just because your thread has 300,000 views doesn't mean it's validated. A lot of people have read the bible but that doesn't mean that the universe really was created in 6 days by an old man with a white beard sitting on a cloud. And I'm glad you put me on ignore because it means I'll have less of your insufferable balderdash to read.

    @ Rinad, it doesn't work because it's based on fallacious principles, and we already know what they are.
     
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    I explained all this to Frank Kneeland here the other day and he actually thanked me for explaining it so well that he understood the concept. He didn't agree or disagree but he understood what I was doing.
     
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    lol this place is funny.

    If there are 100 holy grail systems. Surely at least 1 can be demonstrated on a public game like Rsim?

    Over the past 20 years of online roulette forums there have been thousands of claims about beating roulette, yet not a single demonstration that they work.

    Is this too much to ask for? Just use 1 of those million holy grail systems to prove these 'mathboyz' wrong.

    And why are people obsessed with 'hints', as if beating roulette is the most amazing discovery since the wheel?

    If you have found a way to beat a pure random game like roulette, why are you wasting your time with casinos, when you can make billions in the stock market.
     
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    Frank Kneeland is a gentleman .
     
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    How could there be meaningful connections between independent random outcomes. You have to pretend they're meaningful and then you can exploit them. They are exploitable because they are extremely dependable, boringly mind-numbingly repeatable and dependable. It's not like you see one pattern once and you jump on it. You see the same patterns and trends over and over and over and over and over. Repetition in anything is exploitable. So they don't really exist, so what. That has nothing to do with anything. The fact is I can go into any casino in the world and see exactly the same patterns and trends and exploit them. Why would I not do that just because somebody's silly math training tells me it's impossible.
     
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    Frank did the same thing to me when I explained it to him more than three months ago. Frank is a funny guy doing that. It's like blowing sunshine up your ass and then sugar coating it. He has no intention in becoming skilled at it. The guy is an author. Getting a confirmation that you communicated well with him is like getting a gold star on your report card.
     
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