Roulette Turbo

Let's try this...
Why do you feel that a bet has a 50% chance of hitting after it hasn't shown for say 20 spins?

 

I'm not sure what you mean.
What bet ? Why would it be 50%.

Here is my question, it will take us down the road a little bit.

You and I sit at the table.
37 spins go by (past spins - whatever... we were playing other things)
now that those 37 spins are over, 12 numbers haven't appeared yet.
(since we both sat down)
I turn to you and say "a few of those 12 (probably 6) are not going to appear in the next 37 spins !"
Am I right or wrong in making that "prediction" to you ?
There are 12 unhits at this point in time (I have NO time machine, which I understand
is the running joke but we're doing this thread like adults)
I say to you that a few of these 12 aren't going to show up in the next 37 spins.
Clearly I don't know which numbers it's going to be, but I can make a
prediction that a few of the 12 will not appear in the next cycle of 37 spins.

Would you call that sensible and logical ? (I sure hope so).
Or would you say something else...

So we're not twisting words - example !!

We both sit down, 37 spins go by...
Here are the no-shows : 2,7,9,12,17,23,26,29,30,32,35,0
(I just ran this example in RX and sure enough there were 12 no-shows. why is that ?
Why is it soooo predictable ??) But I digress.
I say "some of those aren't going to appear in the next 37 spins !
You say "______________________________" what ?

37 more spins go by - now we're at 2 cycles complete and the unhits are :
7,9,23,26,32,35,0

I was right ! 7 of them didn't appear in the next cycle.
Did I need a time machine ? Was it voodoo or gypsy magic potions ?
How was I able to "KNOW" this ahead of time ???????????????????
HOW was I able to predict what numbers WOULD not appear ???
Isn't the opposite of this logic also in play ? (yes).

Please, please answer the question because this is very simple and we're keeping
it "adult".
I don't need to hear that "this has no value" because it DOES.
Not only does it have value, it completely changes the math of the game.
A number can't hit twice unless it's hit once, etc...
And you can't lose by NOT betting on a number that doesn't appear.

I can even boldly predict (although I can't say 100%) that one of these
won't appear in ANOTHER 37 spins.
(crosses fingers and clicks auto spin)

now 37 spins later - 26,32,35 haven't appeared.
3 of them !

This isn't rocket science and it isn't magic and required no time machine.
And a smart person will know already that knowing what "NOT" to bet on
is a big plus when it comes to defeating the tiny house edge.

We should start here shouldn't we.
Explain to me how I was able to know what "NOT" to bet on and why ??

 

and yes this is completely in line with your question, they are both connected.
What is more likely to appear vs what I just demonstrated - that there are numbers
LESS likely to appear.

 

This might help Dr Sir General, this chart is a a bet on only one location, played every single spin. The chart doesn't fluctuate too much because the bet selection always goes to "center" the progression just keeps it going. Now imagine if what Turbo is saying you know when to place the bet, instead of placing a bet on all spins, how much nicer this chart would look.

 

Ok you just described the Law of the Third as if it was a revolutionary discovery, my god I must be dreaming.

 

There is no such thing as the law of the third. It's completely made up bullshit!

 

lol, as I have said.....there is a law of the 3rd & 4th. I just dont AGREE with using that terminology.

 

"Sir Anyone" started the thread, let him answer please.

 

How was I able (without a time machine) to predict accurately
at spin #37 that certain numbers were NOT going to appear in the next 74 spins ?
Not with 100% accuracy, no. But pretty damn good - I was right about 7 of the 12
In the next cycle I was right about 3 of the 7 !
I didn't need a time machine, I just needed random.
If I can tell you what numbers WON'T appear - how is it so hard and impossible
to believe and understand that I can also tell you what numbers WILL appear ?
It's the same principle exactly.
I'll wait for your reply.

 

So what? How has the probability of winning changed?

Again, so what. There's a 12/37 chance that one of those numbers that haven't hit will hit on the next spin, and there's a 25/37 chance that one of the numbers that have hit will hit. So which side would you like to bet? Either way, you're still coming up short!

You would need your probability of winning to be 12/36 for one of the 12 numbers that haven't hit in order to just break even, or a probability of 25/36 to just break even on one of the numbers that has hit. Either way, whether you pick the hot or cold numbers you're going to come up short. After all, aren't the same number of pockets on the wheel? It doesn't matter whether it's the next spin, the next series of spins, or the long run, the odds still suck.

I don't see why you feel that you've in any way changed the odds for the reasons written above. Again, it's 12/37 verses 25/37. Both bets have a negative expectation.

The problem as I see it is that you think that betting on the numbers that have hit is a better bet because there's more of them, when it's really not. If more is better, then why not just bet on all of the numbers? What seems to have you mixed up is you're not taking the time to actually calculate the probability of winning. If you take the time to calculate the probability you'll find that you're still coming up short regardless of how many numbers you choose to bet, and regardless of whether or not you bet the 12 cold numbers or the 25 hot numbers.

Sorry, just the facts,

-Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

 

Steps

1. Define your events and outcomes. Probability is the likelihood of one or more events happening divided by the number of possible outcomes. ...
2. Divide the number of events by the number of possible outcomes. This will give us the probability of a single event occurring.

If there's 37 pockets on your wheel then the number of possible outcomes is 37.

12 cold numbers, then the chance of winning is 12/37
25 hot numbers, then the chance of winning is 25/37

Unfortunately the house only pays you as though there's 36 numbers on the wheel. So no matter which bet is chosen, you're going to still come up short.

 

There is, 2/3 of numbers appear and 1/3 do not in a cycle of 37 spins (average). This is just an observation but this can't be exploited BEFORE the 37 spins occur. Noone can know the 24 numbers that will show and the 13 that won't, I anticipate the answer of TG: "I don't need to be right 100% of the time, I need only to pick a few with an aggressive progression" Then you better pick randomly 13 numbers in your head before the 37 spins session occur and then apply your aggressive progression on the numbers that show hoping that some of them will turn hot. No need to track anything beforehand, it does not change anything.

 

What did you predict accurately?
All know that in next 30-60 or 100 spins some number will not appear - but what benefit for you from this knowledge? That knows all, but nobody knows exactly which numbers !!
Even if you have after 37 spins 12 number which not was in these first 37 for you will give advantage only knowing exactly which from these 12 will not appear in next 37, but you that not know.
I said many times all who claim that they are a winner lets come to my casino in my room and let's try to beat mine old and super simple wheel. You play from one side and can do video or what you want if you will win that will be some proving of your theory.
You must show result near to 3STD and then for all will be clear that you know more than know others.
Till you that will not do - all your post stay simply words...

 

I can understand the point Turbo's make.

Cheers

 

All understand but nobody can explain. Are one who writes in his thread alone, maybe him also all understand

 

Pretty funny. A) A casino in your room.
B) "old super simple wheel" makes no sense. A actual casino wheel would produce random.
Unless you have some amazing maintenance done on it (in the casino in your room) - I doubt
it produces random results. Therefore proof of nothing either way.
C) Winning however many spins you want (in your casino in your room) won't be proof of anything
whatsoever. I've posted thousands of spins and results and it wasn't good enough for those
certain people - so a few spins on your wheel won't matter either.

lol. Yes - seems legit.

lol (2). Yes, I have to agree - amazing and brilliant, where "proof" is proof if you can win against his wheel in his room.
You're strange Sir No One.

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PS/ You posted a reply but never answered my question.
Are you trying to avoid the answer or posting things not related to what I said to avoid
the answer ? I'm confused. We all know what the probability is of each number, regardless of
it having appeared or not on the next spin. So can you answer my question or not ?

 

Why do I have to pick them in my head ?
I just posted the example above - after 37 spins there were 12 left.
I predicted some of them would not show in the next 37 spins.
I was right 7 out of 12 of them !!!!!! I'd say that's pretty amazing.
It wasn't 37 numbers possible that I had to "guess" from, it was 12 numbers
possible that I had to "guess" from, and was right over 50% of them.

Likewise, I don't have to guess from 37 possible numbers when I'm trying to predict
winners (instead of sleepers like in the example) ((same exact principle)).
I only need to be right on a few of them (in the HG conversations/posts in the past
I already showed and pointed out that I wasn't even on some of the best possible
hot numbers, but of the top 10 I won on at least half of them) - and it never can lose.

I would hope these posts bring information to get people closer, but if not - then it
won't happen for everyone. It's all been explained, it's all been shown in results and
the "step by step" some people want isn't going to happen.

 

Turbo,

I answered your questions. You just didn't like the answers that I provided.

In short, look at the game via real probability, rather than fallacies.
If you feel that I'm in error, then please feel free to point out my errors and or correct them.

Best of luck.

 

Turbo,

Are you saying that you would prefer to bet on only the numbers that have hit?

or

Are you saying that you would prefer to bet on only the numbers that have not hit?

 

Never say die. You've just got to love this guy, just for staying power. May the wacky wheels of the world bless you and your gang.