Roulette Using parameters to hit sleepers

Hi Ken, it's great to see 2 of us thinking outside the box.

I'm stating the obvious when I say random numbers are complex, mostly beyond
our understanding. having said that, we are faced with the problem of 37 numbers.
We humans are great at recognizing patterns and there are times, when we can
take advantage of 'hot numbers' re gizmotron's 'spaces between hits. Perhaps the
most difficult problem are sleepers. Here probability makes it difficult to find a
way to place bets on a number that can sleep for 300+ spins. Why doesn't a
number sleep for a 1000 spins. It must be because 37 numbers demands
probability to have a number appear close to 500 spins max. If there was a
wheel with 74 numbers, perhaps a number appearing ay 900 spins would be
perfectly acceptable.

There are therefore restrictions on probability. A simple restriction is heads or
tales, 50:50 slightly more heads or tales is a certainty.

To make any progress with sleepers it is a must to find a way to restrict
probability, so as not to sleep for 300+ spins. I spent a great deal of time
and effort thinking about this problem. Quite by chance I manipulated the
numbers in a certain way (nothing to do with sleepers), when it dawned on
me, that it may be possible to apply what I had worked out to sleepers.
Further to that limiting the number of bets, moving from Table to Table,
the combined restrictions, resulted in sleepers appearing far sooner than
would normally be the case. The use of parameters will enable a player to
place bets at spin 79 and some time in the next 56 spins the number will
appear and not after 135, the end of the parameter.

I can understand when people cannot get their heads round this, mainly
the 'wheel has no memory' mob. I am hoping this version will work if not
as well as my model, but as close as possible to it.

The results will decide either way.

 

Jerome, I have been using my roulette model for over 3 years, if there was
a fatal flaw I would have discovered it by now. What I am not prepared to
discuss here is the manipulation process, that unfortunately I can't use in
this project version. All I can say is it's impossible for it to fail in the way
your describing. I have also done extensive work on pi and have had
amazing results having worked on 26,000 numbers. Nothing to do with
sleepers of course, but the manipulation process has highlighted some
unusual aspects, when all numbers appear to be equal.

Perhaps when this project starts to produce results you will have a better
understanding of what's going on and if you want make adverse
comments it's up to you.

 

Changing tables has no effect on winning or losing, or stats for numbers. It's random.
Triggers to start betting and points to exit are also meaningless. Sleepers are useless.
I'm sorry to post this again, I won't contribute to the thread from this point on -
but you are detailing almost every "wrong" thing a person would choose to do with
the expectation of finding a way to win. (and I'm no anti-system person obviously)
You might as well add in what chair you sit in, what day of the week you go (because
wednesday the stats are always different than friday) or factor in the weather or time
of year - none of these impact the game.
As I said - Roulette Extreme will do these stats for numbers and you'll see in minutes
instead of years that there's nothing special about a number that is any different from
any other number. But again good luck, get on the right path and spend your time
and effort there. You seem motivated but the path your on is the wrong one.

 

If it's random, then your "Turbo repeater system" shouldn't perform any differently if you change tables back and forth between spins, right?

 

Yet that path is a necessary one just the same. It seems that at some point we all must eliminate magical thinking from our investigations in order to gain the experience needed to become a truly experienced player. And don't forget that just since you walked in the door that your pet sequence will start occurring just as you need it. That sequence of death is always out there lurking.

 

I don't need a better understanding when it's clear from your posts what you're trying to do. The details don't matter if the logic is wrong. And even if your system had some validity, you're just curve-fitting. Do you understand what I mean by curve-fitting?

 

Yes you do need a better understanding. I have been using parameters for more than 3 years. Repeat
I having been using parameters for more than 3 years.

I would not have attempted doing this current project, if I did not have the experience of what can
be achieved by using my model and applying the basic concepts here.

When the results come in you can dream up some other adverse comments. Don't make
the comments too ridiculous, they will reflect on you not me. lol

 

TurboGenious, you really don't understand anything about random numbers. It's like
a gigantic puzzle and continuing with the analogy you fit all the outside pieces first.
Numbers have to conform to probability. The number 5 has to come in say 500
spins max. 5 as part of sets have to appear within a certain time. They have to
repeat, so that over time the numbers equal out. There is a lot that we can
recognize and of course a lot we don't understand.

It makes no sense to rubbish something that you don't understand. We would
still be living in caves and when I was rubbing 2 sticks together to make a fire
you would say I was wasting my time. lol

 

And when the results come in we will just have to take your word for it, right?

BTW, it's "TurboGenius", not "TurboGenious".

 

So in not so many words I'm a liar. I like the Buddhist approach to insults.
Just don't accept it and the insult remains with you.

WOW a typing error, how will I ever recover from such a mistake!!!!!!!

On a serious note folks I have nearly finished the parameter revisions
and will post them soon. Don't get too exited Jerome. LQTM

 

I've already explained this to death. Do I have to type it out again ? If so, I will.

Maybe you don't know me, fair enough. I've been doing this for 35 years now. If someone with that
much time and experience is telling you something and you refuse to accept/believe it - and think that
person doesn't understand anything about random - then you're on your own. Good luck, you'll need it.

 

Here's some stats from 30,000 spins.


So #2 just hit - we're going to wait until it gets to (382-56) spins and then bet on it because
it surely won't go past 382 spins right ? It does, of course it does.
#1 hasn't shown for 159 spins with a max of 288 so it's almost ready to be bet on ?
I really hope you understand that this doesn't work.
Sleepers are a nightmare - once they show then fine, but thinking they are "due" because
your past spin data tells you so is wrong. And factor in your "waiting time" and "triggers" to start betting means you're going to drag out the losing process longer.
Also - changing tables, seats, casinos, the t-shirt you have on or waiting for it to rain before
placing a bet doesn't change how random works and turn it into a winning strategy.

 

He's not on his own. He's an honorary member of the Crash Test Dummy's Society. He is just doing what we all have done. He is 100% sure that his system/method is the thing that everyone has been looking for. He's so proud of it that he can't contain himself. He just can't understand how anyone could disagree. There is no chance that this does not work. He must go thru this phase. It's part of gaining experience.

 

Yep, been there done that - sounds like me 15 years ago actually.
I wasn't too open to people telling me when I was wrong either.

 

Revised parameters:

01) 044/100
02) 171/227
03) 094/150
04) 075/131
05) 147/203
06) 137/193
07) 066/122
08) 105/161
09) 047/103
10) 080/136
11) 040/096
12) 151/207
13) 135/191
14) 146/202
15) 094/150
16) 158/214
17) 075/131
18) 098/154
19) 066/122
20) 044/100
21) 105/161
22) 094/150
23) 146/202
24) 179/235
25) 127/183
26) 096/152
27) 052/108
28) 156/212
29) 063/119
30) 060/104
31) 114/170
32) 126/182
33) 048/104
34) 115/171
35) 123/179
36) 078/134
37) 148/204

The above parameters are definitely more realistic having trawled about
70 Tables.

It will mean more work, but more Tables will have to be trawled to
ensure the strength of the above parameters. If very few parameters
are altered, I will be very content.

When this is complete, over 100 Tables will have been trawled.

The next stage will be to do a trial run to establish the number of
hits & losses.

After the trial, no more looking back at past Tables and the project
will be using numbers from present day cards from various casino's.

 

To bring a little coin i would say that i knew a guy who was playing sleepers... sleepers in the hot area. He marks all numbers came out on his wheel chart then as soon as he gets something like 0/32/15 (in a row or not) then he's playing 26/19 and adding numbers if there s another hot area... if it is 0/32/19 he plays only 15. And he's following the game and adding numbers... when he hits he restart and mark the last 10 numbers and chasing sleepers in hot area.

 

TurboGenius, If you don't follow the rules of the project then RX is pointless.

 

Delectus,

Did you explain the following to Turbo...

That you win because the wheel is random and you rely on randomness to win?
That in order for a number to hit it can't have hit before?
The in order for a number to hit twice it first has to hit once?
Math beats a math game?
That he must be able to look beyond just the next spin?
Try mentioning the Wright Brothers and flight? (That often is a big help.)

 

"Try mentioning the Wright Brothers and flight? (That often is a big help.)"

Sometimes you are just funny.

 

Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone, thanks for your helpful suggestions. In particular maths
beats a maths game. There is certainly mathematics in this project. Parameters
and probability. Probability changes to accommodate the demands of the
parameters.