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Roulette Washoo2 on columns

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, so I had a sim already written to test law of third and the 24 hottest out of 38. It runs two cycles (76) spins then tests 76 more to see how the coldest, middle, and hottest numbers act.

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    Interesting results. The computer looks at the coldest 14 numbers after each spin. I does not bet on them, leaving the warmer 24 to bet on. If you virtual bet 1 time after each first hit on a cold number after warm numbers were hitting then you will almost never get 5 lost bets on the cold numbers in a row. So that's C, Cv, C C C in a row to lose. It's a slow grind and requires 80 units to play where 1 unit is allowed on an inside number. This software could be made to select the correct 24 numbers for each spin.

    That gives me the ultimate bet selection method based on the coldest numbers of the law of thirds calculated after each spin.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I doubt that a human can do this off of a hand written chart at a B&M casino. I know that you could not get these 24 numbers down in time on an online casino. After each spin is a new 24 hottest numbers that gradually and constantly changes. It makes for fun research but it is not practical.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is an example of the constantly changing spins to figure out on each spin:

    3,4,8,18,23,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,22,
    37,1,6,10,14,17,20,21,24,32,34,36,
    15,35,13,19,25,33,5,11,16,26,30,31,

    3,4,8,18,23,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,22,
    37,1,6,10,14,17,20,21,24,32,34,36,
    13,15,35,19,25,33,5,11,16,26,30,31,

    3,4,8,18,23,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,22,
    32,37,1,6,10,14,17,20,21,24,34,36,
    13,15,35,19,25,33,5,11,16,26,30,31,

    The top line of each group is the coldest numbers figured by the computer.

    Now look several spin later. The top line has changed as new coldest numbers are selected.

    23,24,34,8,18,22,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,
    26,31,32,36,37,1,3,4,6,10,17,21,
    13,15,25,30,33,35,5,11,19,14,16,20,

    23,24,34,8,18,22,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,
    26,31,32,36,37,1,3,4,6,10,17,21,
    13,15,25,30,33,35,5,11,16,19,14,20,

    22,23,24,34,8,18,27,28,29,38,2,7,9,12,
    26,31,32,36,37,1,3,4,6,10,17,21,
    13,15,25,30,33,35,5,11,16,19,14,20,

    Look at the first list of groups and the #22. It moves from coldest in last place to coldest in first place, almost ready to move to a middle set for that group for that spin.

    This would be real hard to figure out on paper in time and to get it down in time.
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    After lots of testing as a 5 step progression with one virtual bet included it gets killed. It's not worth using the law of thirds, in combination with selecting the coldest numbers to be eliminated on each spin. Progressions just don't work in the long run even after the most sophisticated form of selection possible.
     
  5. RouletteGhost

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    I dod not test your first chart outcomes because : 1) I do not know what 37 represents, 2) i do not know if you tested american or euro, 3) i do not know if these are real or RNG

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    Session I just played, goes in line with all of the others

    LIAR - 3

    +9 units played through, but my win goal is 5 units which on every single test is achieved between spins 20 and 30 so about a half hour on airball american wheel...except this one which hit my goal before 20 spins

    I do not need to be told progressions are stupid, I use money I can use
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    5
    7 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    30 W 1,1 WIN +1
    14 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    22 W 1, 1 WIN +1
    11 W NO BET
    3 W NO BET
    17 W NO BET
    10 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    14 L 1, 1
    36 L 3, 3
    2 W 9, 9 WIN +1
    23 W NO BET
    21 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    20 W 1, 1 WIN +1
    10 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    24 W 1, 1 WIN +1
    29 W NO BET
    34 W NO BET
    2 W NO BET
    35 W NO BET
    29 W NO BET
    24 W NO BET
    4 W NO BET
    22 W NO BET
    1 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    11 W 1,1 WIN +1
    20 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    8 W 1,1 WIN +1
    8 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    30 W 1,1 WIN +1
    1 W NO BET
    19 W NO BET
    1 L VIRTUAL LOSS
    1 W 1,1 WIN +1
    13 W NO BET
    26 W NO BET
    33 W NO BET
    32 W NO BET
    15 W NO BET
     
  6. albalaha

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    Hmmmmmmm. Interesting. I worked a lot upon the hottest and the coldest ones(coldest means farthest to hit, for me or unhit ones) and it doesn't help much by itself. We still need MM plans.
     
  7. albalaha

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    They do not work as they were not tailor made to cater large varieties of probabilities specially dealing with variance. Since there is none in public, we conclude that no MM can help, which is not true. Bet selection can not be good enough to avoid harsh variance. Once you get that, it is cheesecake to beat every session.
     
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  8. gizmotron

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    There is a reason that I gave up on double dozens, 24 - 26 numbers. I really haven't gone into it much. All I have said is that it digs deep holes real fast. If you can't beat the casino flat betting then there is no money management method other than virtual bets to deal with it. Reading Randomness is about flat betting using virtual bets and waiting for win streaks that are a slow grind upward or of the super win streak type. These things occur by coincidence and only require a skilled observer to execute their exploitation. A prerequisite skill to tell the future is not required. Most of the time a condition will last at least once more once it is discovered. Very seldom do trends and patterns of winning end just when you notice them like in a swarm of losses. They win more than they lose when they are in a winning state or condition. They lose in a slow grind or a steep dive when they lose. The only skill needed is the skill to see what type of condition the session is in. Everyone talks about Money Management. This is all about Session Management. You use it to deliberately win the session. This leaves behind wishful thinking and probability expectations that have no control over recent variance. You just let variance have its way and change as it changes.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Ilf Roulette Ghost is satisfied with the WASHOO2 bet selection he applies to the Columns he lets the results and method speak for themselves .



    ND
     
  10. gizmotron

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    How exciting. Washoo2 is still alive. RIP
     
  11. RouletteGhost

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    The bet section used on columns on the American wheel yields better results then the same bet selection on dozens

    no HG of course, but I’m making it work for a good amount of time now.

    It’s a simple bet selection. Whatever number hits look at the chart to see what columns to bet next

    sleepers don’t affect this.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    RG,


    After a while you won't need the chart which makes the bet selection much easier .

    Also for Even Chances I have I have developed a method for the shortest time required of

    the bet selection . Makes the " reading randomness " an out dated antique .
     
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    If you are going to play the columns, here is a much simpler way and probably more effective. This is based on my firm belief that random patterns will not repeat randomly. I just played a session of 286 spins for a win of 235 units. It also uses a double dozen progression: 1 3 9 27 54. I did this session on a RNG single zero wheel.

    Take 5 free spins and write down from left to right the columns that hit. Example: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st.
    Starting from the left and moving right, you will place your bets on the other two columns: First column written down (2)-bet 1 & 3, next right (3)-bet 1 & 2, next right (3)- bet 1 & 2, next right (2)- bet 1 & 3, next right (1)- bet 2 & 3.

    With every spin, cross out the column to the extreme left and add the column that hits to the right. Your betting will always be according to the column on the left that has not been crossed out. What ever column appears to the left, you place your bets on the other two columns.
     
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  14. Nathan Detroit

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    Roulette Ghost ,


    If you are ever interested in the WASHOO2 based 18 number bet (each 6 contiguous neighbors ) contact me for details .


    I believe you are ready .




    ND
     

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    why & how washoo2 beats reading randomness•RR
     
  16. RouletteGhost

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    I like simple

    since the house edge remains the same why make it complicated

    I don’t have the time or the patience or do I care to read the randomness thread.

    i know this will Eventually bust and I’m ok with that
     
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    & what exactly 'washoo2' is
     
  18. jbs

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    Just another useless, losing gambling system. Don't waste your time or money on it.
     
  19. RouletteGhost

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    Yes

    listen to JBS

    It’s just a way I personally play and I’m satisfied with it

    My disclaimers are in post #1

    it’s successful for me because I limit exposure.
     
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  20. Nathan Detroit

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    jibs > The master ass hole of all assholes has has dispensed his wisdom .




    ROFLMAO
     

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