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Baccarat What are your pre-determined bet selections and the trigger you wait for before placing your bets?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jon Wick, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. Baccarat Magician

    Baccarat Magician Active Member

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    Got it thanks for clarifying. It's an interesting concept either way...and also requires a lot of patience waiting for a shoe to develop the way you want. I think next on my mission is to start playing multiple shoes at once. It can take 2.5-3 minutes just for 1 hand at some of the local casinos here. So it's grueling to sit there so long while players figure out their bets etc. Or just play online. Do you know a good site?
     
  2. Baccarat Magician

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    Sounds good thanks
     
  3. fathead

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    Thank you. Let me know how it goes. You are lucky to have access to so many tables online. There are a few sites that accept US bettors but only one or two tables to choose from.
     
  4. fathead

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    Well, I stand corrected. The P 70% bet B does as well or better on EZ Baccarat as it did on Commission Baccarat. I was surprised by this. I know that the house edge on the Banker bet in EZ Baccarat is actually lower than that of Commission Baccarat, even thought it wins less often due to the push. The profit curve is very similar but I will attach it below.

    P 70% bet B EZ Bac.png
     
  5. Baccarat Magician

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    I guess thats why I was up to 17 units last night, flat betting) im going to casino right now, ill look for shoes that are in the 70% tier as you mention..basically 10 of the first 14 hands need to be banker or player and better the opposite of the side that is dominant.
     
  6. fathead

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    I am glad that you are having good results with it. I don't see any long term profits betting on the Player side on my data anyway, so keep that in mind. But if you are having success on the that side who am I to say. I guess you will find out over time. Let me know how you do in your future play.
     
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  7. Baccarat Magician

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    Sounds good, will do)
     

  8. Baccarat Magician

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    Just got done with the casino, but played my normal way, want to test the flat betting out a little more on paper. Seems you have to be very patient for those 70% shoes to show up..looking around the casino, there were only a couple I saw that qualified.
     

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  9. fathead

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    It looks like you did well. Only one bust. What betting trigger were you using?
     
  10. Baccarat Magician

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    Yeah, Ive gone over a hundred units without a bust, but its a simple trigger. Wait for 2 banker or player losses, then bet opposite. Everyone says to never bet against the streak...I find doing so works quite well actually.
     
  11. Baccarat Magician

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    Here is the data on betting opposites...

    1 million shoes testing 1,2,4,8,16 progression after waiting 2 losses in a row

    -553,523 progressions lost (-17,159,213)

    +18,392,476 units won

    +1,233,263 units won total

    +1.2 units won per shoe average

    (Of course, you can go long streaks without any losses at all)
     
  12. fathead

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    Looks like it is working for you. What is the number to the far left? /8/ for example.
     
  13. Baccarat Magician

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    Oh, its nothing too important. See, when I play, I play at more then one table at a time depending if there is a trigger. So the /8/ is just the section number on the table that I happen to be placing a bet..its also insurance for me too. I have had hands where everyone bet on banker and I bet on player, but not only did the dealer not pay me out on a winning player, he took my chips as if it was on banker like the rest lol. I get it, its 3am, these guys get tired and they fix it as soon as I call them out on it. Also other players are pretty good at keeping the dealer accountable for other peoples chips. If I only played at one table at a time, it wouldnt be necessary to put down a section number...but because gameplay at the casino can get so slow..waiting 2.5 to 3 minutes for each hand because so many players at the table, its nice to bet other tables, so I can still be active and increase my profits.
     
  14. fathead

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    Okay, I see. I thought you might roam the baccarat pit, betting against streak of 8, streak of 4, and so on. Whatever was available.
     

  15. Baccarat Magician

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    If I did that...I would be waiting around too long..plenty of opportunities to bet just after 2 losses etc. Oh, also on the ez baccarat screen, it actually shows the percentages of player vs banker, as opposed to counting hands, maybe I can just use that indicator about halfway through the shoe for your flat betting method.
     
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  16. Baccarat Magician

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    Just got done with another session at the casino. Up +37 units, not 1 bust.. love these days, quick and easy.

    There are dozens of tables at this casinos..so I glanced to see if any shoes were currently at 70%+ for player or banker in the shoe...only 1 was . I think ill test your 70% method at home, probably easier with prerecorded live shoes, move through them quicker.
     

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    Congrats on the win. Always like seeing bettors bringing cash home from the casino. Testing at home would be faster, for sure.
     
  18. vindan

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    Hi,BM..would you please provide me some examples for the trigger ?
    Thank you in advance
     
  19. Baccarat Magician

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    Sure, basically you just wait for 2 bankers or 2 players to show up in a shoe and bet the opposite. My progression is 1,2,4,8,16. Look at the example below.

    B
    P
    B
    P
    P (now that there is 2 players, bet banker 1 unit)
    P (you lost your bet, now bet 2 units on banker)
    B (you won your 2 unit bet, now reset and wait for 2 players or bankers, then bet opposite again)

    Thats all you do. Although, you can change it up and bet only 1,2,4,8 or 1,2,4 if you want..but if you bet 1,2,4,8 you have to wait for 3 Bankers or Players to show up before betting..if you use the progression 1,2,4 you have to wait 4 Bankers or Players to show up to start betting.

    Choose what you prefer. 1,2,4 you can use bigger units since your betting opportunities will be less. You will just be waiting a while for 4 bankers or players to show up, unless you have access to lots of tables at once.

    I played that method tonight actually, made 11 units.

    So for example this is what it would look like

    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B (4 Bankers is a trigger to start betting..now bet the opposite on Player, 1 unit)
    B (Lost, bet 2 units on Player)
    B (Lost, bet 4 units on Player)
    P (You won this 4 unit bet, now reset and wait for 4 more Players or Bankers to trigger you to bet)
     

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    Any thoughts on using a progression until one of the less popular hands hits? For instance, if you are betting banker use a progression until a banker hits one time and wait for another opportunity.
     

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