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Roulette What if I told you...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Help me snowman!
     
  2. RouletteGhost

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    You barked up the wrong tree.
     

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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    At least snowman is a real gambler. I still wonder if he can find a biased wheel in this modern world though. But you. That recommendation to select your bets from a mindless and totally bone headed rigidity is bazaar. Come on now. You do sound like you actually think it's advice that you meant for others to read. I mean, you aren't auditioning for a comedy club. You really posted what I quoted. That's funny stuff. When are you going to wise up?
     
  4. RouletteGhost

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    Sorry captain

    I am not aware of any magic or hocus pocus that somehow makes your chips special

    Same game toots.
     
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    Does it take 200 spin to go up as the graph shows. How do you control lots of bet in different size in a table where u need to throw chips
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    right, back to the quest for the holy grail.
     
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    I agree in general but since I don't know any specifics I cannot declare that I completely agree or not.
    Popular persons in forums such as Kav from roulette 30 and albahala from bet selection would agree with you on this one because they are using progressions.
    What I have to say is that we try to approach the same game in different ways, why to be only one way in order to win long term?
    Regarding my perspective probably there are more than one ways to beat the game not by luck, but by will.
    That's why I'm reluctant to condemn different approaches which I'm unfamiliar and don't know their specifics.
    In general I'm not the one who jumps to conclusions and discards anything different than what I already know and do.
    I don't say that every single method out there is worthwhile but certainly a few deserve to do the extra mile and have a better look on them, with an open mind I'm trying to perceive old and new concepts from a different angle, trying to mix up a bit and create something new, something unique.
    Sometimes is something very small which could give an important turnpoint, big events start from small ones.
    I'd say that is almost necessary to un-restrict your mind from well known beliefs in order to unleash your mind power and creativity.
     

  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Another win - live play AC yesterday.
    Losing isn't possible.
    Repeaters, Aggressive progression.

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  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Your weak point is the progression. The draw downs are garish considering the small unit. If...if...you have the edge, you'd win more if you bet using an up as you win progression.
     
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    TG Progresion is the Strong point ,that Hold everything together....
    He said it. "Math beats Math Game..."
     
  11. Fossell

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    Can you post or mail numbers TG?
     
  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  13. mr j

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    I dont want to get into, if this works or doesn't. Its not the point of my post. My concern, lets say you are into your progression and its now dealer change, either by shift change or a break they get.

    It would scare me to death, a dealer change. I know what SOME say, a DC should not mean a thing. I have troubles with DC playing with flat bets (lol). Things run nice and smooth (imo) with the SAME dealer. The *STYLE* of spinning stays consistent with the same dealer.

    Ken
     
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    The last 17 sessions ive been playing my interpretation of what Turbo has been saying. So far half of my results would look like TG's graph up to about the 30ish spin and thats where i have stopped. The other half have had 500/600 unit down swings before hitting aroung the 70ish spin mark but again that last part would look very similar and bringing me 500/600 units in profit(where i have then stopped).
    Just played the numbers posted and results look very similar! As Turbo has said before im always looking to improve. Thank you for your continued posting on this.
    Mr J still working on my 1 - 4 number bet but not quite there yet!
     

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    Stick with 3-4. Long term, its THE answer, trust me.

    Ken
     
  16. Rona

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    This graph is very useful in understanding you game Turbo, thanks.
    Now it is really short the distance to tell us exactly how you bet. :)
     
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    Dont post a thing TG, the haters benefit from it. (not saying you Rona)

    Ken
     
  18. TurboGenius

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    I would be in that group also - the dealer change doesn't change how the math plays out.
    I suppose you could look at it as the casino tracking their own wheels for "bias". I'm sure they don't note when a dealer changes on a spin-by-spin basis. If there's a flaw, it will show up regardless of who's spinning the wheel or how their style is compared to other dealers. The same with the math. I've yet to see the math change due to another person spinning the wheel. Unless there was a sharp-shooter that could hit a certain section of the wheel (at will) - but that alone would change the math and the game wouldn't be random anymore. It has to be random. I'd have to say that 90% of the differences you might notice after a dealer change is just your brain making connections to something that isn't there. The same dealer might end up spinning the same numbers as the new dealer.

    He's right - The max amount of numbers that I bet (the above session) was 4 - the least was 1 - the average amount of numbers bet per spin was 1.93
    When you get into playing a long list of numbers - welcome to the nightmare. Your wins (even with a aggressive progression) aren't going to cover the losses.

    Welcome. I'd have to say that at least this session is pretty well understandable to anyone who actually play the game - there's no real mystery here aside from the progression values and that can change person to person - but it must be aggressive enough to end in profit (and done right - it always will)
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    When I look at that graph it appears as though you're, as they say, "flying by the seat of your pants." True, it's not very many spins, but If you'd quit at just the wrong point you'd of lost. Within 10 or 20 spins you went from winning about 800 to almost broke, and then back to winning again. To me appears as though you're just riding a wave of luck and your graph does a fine job of proving it.

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  20. TurboGenius

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    As long as the wave ends with a peak/profit (which it always will) then it's all good.
    Drawdowns are no longer a problem if it's only a path to a profit. To "not" have a drawdown of any kind would mean you could magically pick what numbers were going to show up and be right almost all of the time.
    That's not possible. The best that I can do using a method/system is to bet on what's most likely to show up
    and be right more than the "average" - the progression handles wherever I am not perfect - it's a nice mix and I can't lose. I don't see the problem with it.
     

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