Roulette What if I told you...

BugsyGenius, you are the one that wanted recognition for your achievement without validation. You just ran into me. I'm the one that wanted recognition through validation. That's my opinion of you. These forums are the only place to get peer review. Everything that I have discovered is on these forums without fear. I just slowed down the simple explanation of it. But it's all there, and some of it here too. It's fun to watch people stuck in what they are comfortably and currently pursuing. It stops them from reaching out of the phase they are going through. I see you in a phase because there is no progression that beats the math of 1/37 odds vs 35 + 1 pay on a win.

 

I had no idea that my email was a secret ([email protected]). I've mentioned it numerous times on any roulette forum that I've been part of - it's even at GG all over the place.. But ok. Since it was undisclosed to you because you never looked for it - you have it now lol... and here I thought it was common knowledge.
I also don't need to convince you of what I'm talking about. As far as the Fields Medal - "too old".
I suppose all of the people who thought Nash was insane scribbling on windows at Princeton instead of being in class - who gave no importance to Game Theory have little to say now that economics, political science, psychology, logic, computer science, and biology all use it and depend on it now. (But he had nothing really Gizmo).
I suppose you would have been in the hallway demanding that he prove it to you with step by step instructions before you would give the man any credit. And of course even if he had done that - you still wouldn't understand it and his "proof" to you would have been a waste of the man's time in the first place.
"ignorance of the only mathematician that could lend you credence to it regarding any truth" That's a classic right there. I never knew we were in such company here. I'm honored and speechless.

 

Fair enough - you're mind is made up and you "know what you know". No need to think further on it.
We are all free to believe what we want - and to never think outside of the box that there could be answers we don't understand yet - or people we can learn from.
If only that were the case - the earth would still be flat in our science books and people would still chase "witches" around and burn them at the stake. Not to mention the people thrown into volcanoes all the time to please the God of one thing-or-another. Laughs. Truth and Fact are what they are until someone changes them, then the entire system adjusts to the "new" truth and facts. It's how we learn.

 

OK Bugsy (crickets). The movie is 'Good Will Hunting.' The mathematician is Bayes. ...and you are the Magellan of Roulette.

"Bayes Theorem tells you about the probability of an event A occuring[sic] given that you have witnessed an event B."

 

Yes Gizmo, but as I've said - it has nothing to do with random events like are found in the game of roulette.
Good Will Hunting was a great movie though - remember that scene where he was solving those complex formulas on the chalkboard.... as it turns out they are really simple to do and it was not complicated it all. It was made that way though so the viewer would be impressed lol. That's why movies aren't a good source if you want to learn something.

 

"It's not your fault Gizmo..... it's not your fault.... it's not your fault"

 

I can't make you show what you got. There is no way that you have anything. That has always been on you. "What if I told you" is how this went down. It is unsubstantiated. You could say you walked on the moon and that would be just as interesting. I have now idea what is going on in that bug filled mind of yours with regards to blame or guilt for that matter. Thanks Bugsy, but no thanks. I'm done with this.

 

You talk about VB on biased wheels however what if the wheel isn't biased but the dealer is fairly consistent with his ball speed(revolutions) and the drop off point? Perhaps his wheel speeds as well? Assuming deep pockets how well could YOU clock something like this? How long would it take for to get it down, Assuming he/she was somewhat consistent. Example: 1 time in every 20 spins you could determine the wheel speed and the drop off point?

 

For visual ballistics a wheels doesn't have to be biased. Bias wheel play and visual ballistics are two different AP plays for roulette.

A changing wheel speed is not an issue. Every wheel speed has a unique offset that's added to the observation. So it doesn't matter if it changes or not from one spin to the next.

Where the dealer releases the ball is also irrelevant. A VB player typically makes his observation later in the spin.

Furthermore the wheel doesn't need to have deep pockets, just a predictable scatter. A predictable scatter will emerge, even on flatter wheel designs, if you track enough spins.

There are different ways to play VB. Some merely involve determining how far the wheel will travel when you believe that the ball has an X number of revolutions left. For example, when you know there's X number of revolutions of the ball left, then it's easy to determine how far the wheel will travel for all of the various wheel speeds. Add the scatter profile, and you can make a prediction.

Others methods involve linear regression. When the ball decay profile for a wheel is mapped or video taped, then you can calculate how much time you should apply to the ball whenever it passes a specific point in order to make a prediction as to where it will meet the wheel at the end of the spin.

 

Short answer is it's very very hard and if someone was doing this they wouldn't spend so much time on forums

 

Turbo, I don't know why a person wakes up from a night's sleep and they have the answer. I was so satisfied that I knew nothing can beat Roulette that is mechanical in nature. But the idea I had is based on things that were mentioned online in the past two months. I will know for sure in a few hours. If that turns out to be true then you are right and you were right. If I don't respond then if what I have found works I won't mention anything more regarding it, not even at my online school. If this works then Snowball was wrong. Something tells me it should work spectacularly.

No more bugs. (crickets)

 

You're knowledge about roulette is pitiful. Your knowledge about how an AP operates, is even more pathetic.

APs lurk about the forums discretely hunting for people that will enable them to map, and track new or current opportunities. One person in a specific area can lead to what amounts to a winning lottery ticket. We comb the world looking for our specific niches. In other words, of course we're on the forums you fool. It's good business.



You're excused.

 

This comment is very much spot on, and the basis for most of my posts on any forum online.

Having said that, we're talking about Roulette which can't be beaten with only your mind, or beaten with any sort of "system", as such, its pointless to even mention AP in the same sentence as Roulette, its an absolute joke.

By the time you collect enough WB data on the game, it will have been balanced and your data is null and void. The true APs in this regard, will search for a casino that doesn't frequently balance its game. Once that is found, the WB data is again useful, and you can begin to work out an angle to take advantage of the WB.

This whole thread screams of "I have this betting system that works" and I immediately reject that idea. Further, someone else mentioned it looked like the OP was using betting denoms far below practical casino usage, making his or her data unusable as well.

 

Exoter 175,

You're my favorite kind of poster.

By the way, I don't play roulette systems.

 

I would hope not, and I would hope you don't play Roulette either, unless you've got a casino out there in the world that doesn't balance its wheel daily, weekly, or even monthly. In such a case, I hope you never so much as give a hint to that kind of location because for all rights it should be a goldmine.

 

Exoter,

I always like it when slot players pretend that they know something about the wheel.

What exactly does it mean to "balance a wheel?"

 

Have you ever tried to beat Roulette with your mind? What makes you an expert? Anyone can learn the skill to stay out of deep draw-downs while waiting for actual opportunities that really exist because of common coincidences in randomness. It's just a simple skill. But it's nothing if you don't have that skill. Do you have that skill? My attacking opportunities outperforms the losses that I deliberately marginalize. Are you qualified to dismiss this skill? I have made it easy to understand, or you can read what I have shared openly for the past ten years. Snowman hates it. His obsession with it borders on cyber stalking. It's not about prediction or changing any odds of what the next spin will be. But that is all Snowball is interested in arguing about. So please get past that small hurdle if you want to discuss it. Can a person avoid deep downturns while exploiting big upturns? There is no way to see into the future, but is that the only way to explain it? I don't count cards. I count spins.

 

Counting spins will help about as much as watching grass grow.

 

I know right? It's like counting cards in bj. I've tried counting them but I keep ending up with like, 51 or 52!