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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That's true. I could have had my own section but I decided that the Reading Randomness thread was all in one place. So it serves the same purpose. It's one idea explained, demonstrated, and encouraged to be practiced. I don't do what Turbo does anymore. He tests other people's ideas. He creates different scenarios regarding the same ideas. He cleans up his threads when they go off topic. I was satisfied that I made my point without too much interruption. So no need for my own section. I can use RR to hunt and exploit hot numbers. Big deal. It's boring to hunt hot numbers and to understand their character. But it works.
     
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  2. Luckyfella

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    Is it possible to move your thread(s) to your own section? That would be nice, all in one place.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    As they say, "stop feeding the pig." Stop betting on a hot number selected once you lose 18 spins on it. Any 18 numbers played is an Even Chance bet. You can play them one at a time and consider the full 18 bets as a single Even Chance bet.

    Now learn to read randomness and play as if these packets of 18 bets are your selections in an EC betting system. Yep, it takes brain capacity. Here's the great thing about this approach. Your winners tend to pay more than the typical 18 for 18. That should tweak the mathBoyz. I can't wait to hear how you can't know something and how the odds will catch up with this. Yikes. zombies! "What's in your head, zombie?"
     
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  4. precogm

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    lol ok good for you.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thankfully no. I deliberately dropped hints inside of other people's threads on purpose in order to both share and to make it difficult for anyone to find what I said. I did this consistently since 2006 until the RR thread 2.5 years ago. It's one of the reasons people got sick of it. Try finding the explanations for Elegant Patterns, and The Global Effect. These dynamic features are the gold mine of gambling. One day they will be recognized and will probably be explained under a different metaphoric description.
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  7. TwoUp

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    Because you're right MJ and every calculator is wrong.

    There is a difference between 2 and more than 2, but I know you struggle to count to 7 so it's unsurprising you struggle with this.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  9. TwoUp

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    It's funny getting at least 1 head (or tail) in 3 flips of a coin has a 7/8 probability (0.875) too, just like I showed.

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    I guess all the probabilty calculators must be broken...
     
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    To me, this will always be the hunt for the HG, mind you, I suppose it's horses for courses. I have always liked the idea of chasing just one number. I remember reading a book around 30 or so years ago and the author stated that just playing this way could leave a player in a positive state even after hundreds of thousands of spins and long after everybody else had lost. Precision and reading the characteristics might help to reduce the short term volatility a bit. When you look at dozens and columns, I still think the columns offer something more with column B having 8 blacks vs 4 reds and column C having 8 reds vs 4 blacks. It would narrow the field down when selecting a number.
     
  11. Nimo

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    I'll add my 2 cents. TURBO is making a delicious beef stew. As anyone knows a beef stew requires beef, potatoes some vegetables and spices. What most don't know is the secret spices, however all the ingredients are listed in his posts on this forum. Pay attention to his starter posts and in the replies he gives. The recipie is all here.
     
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    Why it is funny? next time you will write that funny that 2x2=4 ...
    1-0.5*0.5*0.5=1-0.125=0.875, that is maybe the third class level. So why is funny?
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    2 x 2 = a pile of number two
     
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    Sigh. TwoUp is determined to try and show my math is faulty by insisting I wrote something which I didn't. If he thinks I did, let him link to the post where I supposedly said it.

    On the other hand, he wrote this :

    The first sentence is correct, but the 2nd doesn't follow and is incorrect. It's a prime example of not engaging brain before putting calculator into gear. No binomial calculation can possibly show that you will get an advantage betting over any sequence of spins, and it's quite extraordinary that TwoUp thinks it can.
     

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    hey pal, good to have you back.
     
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  16. Nimo

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    Thank you for ranking me. Your opinion about me is like a perfect sphere; pointless.

    I don't post charts anywhere anymore. I have hardly made any comments or posts anywhere past couple of years, however you can check out the last chart I posted on Steve's other forum called 3peat. Its's a modified version of the system posted. It's a pretty decent chart.

    I understand this being an online basic platform and you know nothing about my integrity, but i know who i am and what i know, and that's all that matters
     
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    There are only two ways to win at this game. Repeaters and sleepers.
     
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    a sleeper has a life spin , then he wakes up. if he had enough sleep and feels well and rested, he gets up and starts running . all numbers do that and so do we. if we want to learn how numbers behave we should just learn how WE behave , no difference. why should there be any difference ?
    R.
     
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  19. thereddiamanthe

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    Hmm .. @TwoUp -- you're saying for the strategy to work properly (eg. SU; x≥2 in 69 spin) -- could have to play for 69 spins each of them numbers (however many decided) .. & NOT stop after two hits?
     
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    I went vegan by natural instincts (.. no reasoning newage bullshit) long ago .. & find delicious things far away from any smell of meat .. except the freshly cut stakes from young girls & women tighs.

    lol
     
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