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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. 6th-sense

    6th-sense Active Member

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    martian talking to a peanut comes to mind.....
     
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  2. Nimo

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    Now you are getting it! FINALLY
     
  3. Herby

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    First step of the mathematical induction by the Dr.Dr. Snowman brothers.
    Where's the next step ?
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    That's one of Turbo's deep thoughts, not mine. :rolleyes:
     
  5. 6th-sense

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    i truly understand thats not your deep thought...

    because i don,t think peanuts have deep thoughts
     
  6. Jono1167

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    Hey Guys

    It’s been a while since I have made a contribution, but I needed to take a break. I got back into it a couple of months ago. Like everyone, I have been following Turbo’s recent posts closely, but I have been holding off on posting any new information. I think Mako’s description as a ‘lurker’ applies to me.

    The last time I made any major contribution was back in March this year when I posted 500 consecutive winning games. (Original post available here: https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/more-on-6-streets-repeaters.18957/page-7) At the time I was happy with the result, but to achieve this, I had to use a progression (+1 -1). Although the results were incredibly consistent across the 500 games, there were three occasions when I dropped below 400 units. For practical purposes, dropping 400 units is acceptable on Roulette Simulator, but at a B&M, I am done.

    At the time I said I wanted to replicate the results with flat-betting. After much testing, I have been doing that consistently for some time now. The chart below is a small example. 1100 spins flat-betting. With flat-betting there are no major drops, just lots of incremental losses, but given the wins are coming in at roughly 63% (as Turbo says) they do catch up. 63% wins 37% losses. Patience is the key.

    I know it’s only 1100 spins but all of my charts have been similar. Lots of dips, but overall, more wins. Gradual progress. I will share more results as time permits.

    Good to see you Herby.

    1140 Spins Flatbetting
    1100d.jpg
     
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  7. Luckyfella

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    After 51pages, I have not read if anyone answered the topic question,
    "when does it lose?"

    It doesn't lose.
     
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  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Sorry, but there's no reason for it to win in the long run. To date, nobody has put forth any logical reason or math as to why it should work.
     
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  9. SPIKE

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    Very impractical to play in a casino unless you were a recreational player. You get to a high point and it takes you 250 spins to get to back to that point. So for 250 spins you're playing at a loss trying to get caught up. Not a practical way to play.
     
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  10. Luckyfella

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    From around s300 to s700, the balance barely move showing negative and positive variance swing. This happens when you bet continuously.
     
  11. SPIKE

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    Yes, just because it doesn't lose doesn't mean it's playable
     
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  12. Punkcity

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    Yes have to agree, one should perhaps stipulate if one is
    A) just a simulation player (runs sims on excel, free online casinoverse, any roulette or baccarat rng simulator etc.
    B) recreational player, categories, 1,2,3.
    Cat 1) being very rare to go to a casinoverse, less than twice a year
    Cat 2) goes minimum twice a year and as much as 6 times in a calendar year
    Cat 3) goes at least once a month (perhaps twice on occasions) 12 months a year
    C) degen goes and blows bankroll one hit.
    D) semi professional goes at least once a week.
    E) total professional, there daily, dedicated selection criteria, dedication to own rules, bankroll etc
    F) mythical herotard that posts only the winner longshot on forum, example 150 to one football team winner without disclosing the other 27 long shots that didn’t win or the never lose a bankroll on any game at the casinoverse.

    For the rest they don’t have the discipline to play the above quote post in real life, real money, real casinoverse, 99:99% would tank and burn , it’s just mental masturbation at the least run on a simulator. Cheers
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You're not even close.
     
  14. SPIKE

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    Ya know?
     

  15. Punkcity

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    He only has wonky wheels in the hillbilly backwaters, he has no idea really.

    Unless he actually claims he’s a professional biased wheel player I’m not sure why he posts .

    Well sir anyone?
    Are you a professional player?
    Are you constantly booking a profit?
    If so what is your rate of play?

    You claim by the math no one can win

    YET

    Here you are saying you can win by identifying biased wheels.
    What is YOUR unit return per session?
     
  16. Punkcity

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    Show me evidence your wonky wheel bias is a positive unit return endeavour.
     
  17. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    What would you like to see?
    I'm also a vb player.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yes

    Yes
    It depends on how long I play. 300 to 1000s of units.
     
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  19. SPIKE

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    Your wish should be that you someday know half as much does Caleb does about gambling. He just toys with everybody here because that's how he gets his jollies. Never think he's an ignorant hillbilly, he's the polar opposite of that.
     
  20. Punkcity

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    Vb player not sure what that is, did you mean video poker player?
     

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