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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. Jono1167

    Jono1167 Active Member

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    Very true. 250 spins and half a day at the casino to win one unit.... no thanks. I’m just looking at this as a data collection exercise.
     
  2. Jono1167

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    Agree. It’s interesting data. In the past I have always become impatient and added a progression. For this, the key is to keep it flat bet. So far the disciplined approach has worked. Happy to continue testing and collecting data.
     
  3. Luckyfella

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    Jono, I'm actually impressed with what you have achieved so far. Very impressed indeed.

    I mean roulette is a - EV game. Yet you have shown a winning chart that's impossible. Well done!

    About that flat plateau on the graph, I believe you will keep researching to improve in the future.

    Thumbs up again.
     
  4. Ka2

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    I agree it looks good so far. But I just want to point out that I had systems that went for almost 10.000 spins flat bet with an upward trend. Sometimes this can happen. I dont want to troll or anything. Just a sidenote to be cautious when you are thinking to test this live!
     
  5. Luckyfella

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    Ka2, you are correct. To me proof of concept is the most important thing.
     
  6. Jono1167

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    Thanks Lucky. This is definitely a work in progress but all credit goes to Turbo. I'm putting his principles into play. I will keep updating in the future.
     
  7. Jono1167

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    Not trolling at all. What you are saying makes perfect sense.
     

  8. Herby

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    Hey Jono,
    impressive results. Keep on going. :)
     
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  9. Gigi666

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    Good to see you're still going @Jono1167 . That is a nice flat betting chart, fingers crossed for you it won't tank eventually. Benefit of playing flat is that there is no loss chasing, you can start and stop the session pretty much as you wish, if you are losing it might be a better idea to walk away or monitor and go back in when you see your balance would start growing again, kind of simplified technical analysis of your profit chart, paper trade when clearly going down, bet when trend up resumes.
     
  10. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Mako are you in that forest?
     
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  11. Denzie

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    This one ?
     

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  12. Ordinary_people

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    Yap from what i search. I found that too
     
  13. Jono1167

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    In the interests of transparency, here is the latest graph flat-betting. The graph consists of 1491 spins. I had wanted to record 2,000 spins but I somehow managed to log myself out.

    The highest point was round 470 when I recorded +375. At round 805 I recorded +365 and at round 939 I recorded +363.
    Whether I could have eventually got to a new high, I don't know. Assuming I did eventually record a new high, having to sit through 1100 spins to make +1 unit simply isn't worth it.

    The obvious solution here is to incorporate a conservative progression.

    I'll let you know how it goes...

    Graph.jpg
     
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  14. Herby

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    Hi Jono,
    great picture, how did it continue ?
    I'll try to find out the surrounding parameters to pack in a programm.
    CU
     

  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You're just gambling. The graph doesn't look good. Pick the same number of numbers at random and compare them when testing and you'll find that your bet selection isn't changing anything.
     
  16. Naughty but nice

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    319.jpg and neither are you changing anything gormless.
     
  17. Ordinary_people

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    27 session. Base on gambler fallacy.

    Thanks @TurboGenius
     
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  18. Ordinary_people

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    How about get nice result without any progression all the time (really pure flat bet) ?

    I know @TurboGenius @Luckyfella can do it :)
     
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  19. Ordinary_people

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    40 session. Base on gambler fallacy.

    13 session from 28 - 40 not good like 1 - 27.

    But still the point total is up.

    Believe it or not. It's up to u :)
     
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