TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Hey DC, I've been testing the same idea. The problem is that mostly it starts fine, the trend goes up nicely, but the hit rate drops to 1/37 (2.70 per number). No matter how I choose numbers, the same thing happens. Sometimes my systems double up my bankroll in a very short time, but again the hit rate (despite how the bankroll is doing) drops down to 1/37. On the other hand, I see continuously upward graphs from people with the apparently same strategy, no matter how many spins are played... What am I doing wrong?

 

Nothing wrong with that approach, of course no need to have all "players" win, as a group you can decide to stop playing and share the profits

 

So now you are telling people what to do. Funny.
Did you ask yourself if you are adding anything to the conversation before posting or do you still need reminders?

 

It can be quick as in my example or it can take forever to get required number of wins per each number you are playing, hence there are some "secrets" that we can't see I guess to make it a steady profitable method.

 

Spike suggested going back to Bovada. So I'm going to shift to the fast version where I made a tracker chart just for very fast play for online live tables. It's here in the software section for download. I played very well yesterday, a few sessions. Then I played last night while tired and fell into a lazy mode. Anyway. I can't play in lazy mindedness. I always get killed. So I'm resting. I will get back to it. But it's going fine. I can kill the casino if I stick to what I know.

 

I could care less about the odds. I could have bet on your mother's hair catching on fire when she gave birth to you and the wheel would still have 38 slots.

 

yep, it was bitcoin that limited me at first. It's better now. It's integrated with paypal.

 

Do you read that I stop posting anything of value since there're so many angry aggressive posters here? You are one of them. I'm now posting for fun. Lol

And if Turbo doesn't set his account to public you must surely hate me. Lol

 

Lucky got himself banned from the RF forum for being similarly pleasant to others, not sure why he wants to repeat it here but hey, whatever floats your boat.

LF: There are better ways to entertain yourself, you're a smart guy. No insult intended.

 

Mako, you are a reasonable person.

Don't you agree the lot of naysayers are aggressive with their postings?

Do you see how TowUp got abused?

I have posted FACTS sticking out my neck to try to help you guys but you guys wrote I posted NOTHING of value.

I'm not angry because you don't appreciate my post. I'm not here posting to be popular.

I'm frustrated because you guys failed to see the clear pointers I have given time and time again. A complete waste of my effort.

It seems the only way to tell things to you is to hand it over to you on a platter. You guys are simply not thinking. Or you lack understanding. I'm trying to figure out which is which????

Mako, for this once consider the fault lies with YOU. Its one possibility your closed mind has not realised yet. Read TwoUp and my posts Carefully. If you got nothing it means you lack understanding. Got it?

It's really hard to help you people.
See the problem that Shank and Gigi face?

 

Mako,
I took the trouble to post FACTS on Steve's forum in that recent discussion. Nobody posted that level of FACTS. Do you understand what I posted? Or again it wasted my time?

I posted FACTS on all forums. Naysayers bashed, I took the expected bashing. To help you guys. Do you read those posts? Or it's simply nonsense to you? You have no fault?

 

I don't mind the naysayers to be honest, they do what they do and I don't bother trying to control them. Turbo doesn't let them bother him either, he uses them as a sounding board to refine his argument, solidify his foundation in terms of expressing it to those who do want to become better players.

As for TwoUp, he's a big boy and he can learn to put on his big boy pants if he chooses to and learn how to deal with assholes by not letting them get to him. If he can't, and feels he needs to retreat, that's ok too, to each his own.

I try (and fail, but still try) to live by a simple code: Either I am part of the solution, or I am part of the problem. There is no in-between. Sometimes, I am part of the problem, but hopefully more part of the solution.

I thank you for your contribution to the board, along with anyone else who participates.

You're wrong about DutchCrown hoever, that is definitely jekhb (Eddy), and he is falsely claiming to be in your winners circle again.

Roughly once every couple years he claims to have completely figured out the game, regales the masses with tall tales of big wins, evangelizes TG to the moon as the source of his awakening, then exposes himself as having not having figured out the final solution.

Just six months ago he posted about failing yet again, having to go back to the drawing board, etc, but is back now under a new name saying he wins thousands of dollars a day, and has won for 2.5 straight years.

But again, to each their own. Eddy's a nice guy at heart, likely just seeking validation from those he respects. No harm no foul.

Regardless, don't be a part of the problem LF, be a part of the solution.

 

Everybody gets bashed, who cares. This is an anonymous internet message board, not your Father crossing his arms and shaking his head at you with disappointment, or berating you with insults. Eh, no biggie.

I do appreciate anyone who posts facts about their playstyle, so again thanks. It's the other stuff we don't need, the emotional bend. Who cares why they say LF, if you win, you win. That's the best revenge.

 

Ok, by this post you think I'm the problem. That means I posted nonsense on forums to you. OK. No problem.

I can write only this much. Not more.
If you don't gain anything, too bad.

I like to address that 2nd part you wrote about. I can simply say you are wrong. Period. Pls don't discuss anymore about it.

You have told me in direct language that I should stop posting. OK. At least I tried.

 

No, not at all, you're a good poster. I mean that just the last few days, you are maybe being a little bit of the exact problem you seek to fix. You're getting aggressive with members who are not math zealots, just people seeking answers from you (Shank, etc).

As I said, I like your posts, especially when they stick to overall method philosophy. You're a very positive influence when you choose to be.

Just attack me when you feel like lashing out, I'll be your dog bone!

The second part I will respect your request and not speak about, no problem.

Cheers

 

I don't attack people. I try to tell people to have a decent, polite, civil conversation that's beneficial. Aggressive posts chase people away.

There are many direct questions I carefully consider before I decide not to reply.

Are you aware I receive many direct questions?

Be assured I read ALL of them. ALL.

I do not ignore any of your questions.
Yes, I read YOUR questions.
I have them in my mind.

I still trying to figure out how to answer YOUR questions. How to show a clear path? Hmmm...

 

lol so many riddles, so many clues.

Why wouldn't you just make enough money with your system and then give it away, If you really want to help other?

It seems there are already 100s of holy grails out there, what harm is another one going to do?

 

Hello NIMO

Welcome back in forum. A few days back I wanted to ask here if someone knows where are old members, specially you. For some moments I even started to think that maybe you could be LuckyFella but you are more into Turbo's category

 

Mako, let me write this post to you. Make it our personal conversation that the rest read.

This is my position about what's written on forum. So people understand clearly that they can help themselves.

MJ is a good poster. He wrote about math that's good for everyone.

About math, it's my personal believe from what I read people's posts you have to get education. The level of understanding is not good enough. Especially on topics related to predictive math.

Statistics is specialised counting math. It's about counting and you want to count correctly. You don't want to get it wrong.

Now, here's the key question.

Can counting give you the edge?

Hmmmm... That's a tough one.

Basic probability, no.

You need to explore the predictive type of counting.

Have you read forums to see if such predictive math are posted? Have you?

Personally, I wrote - entropy.

People ask me umpteen times, how?

I know I have not given a direct answer.
Close but not direct.

I can't give a direct answer. As in here's how it works. Otoh, I have given the answer if you read my posts where I mentioned entropy. The problem is you didn't understand my post. So how? I'm still trying to figure out how to give more. Hmmm...

Don't get me wrong. Entropy is not the only one.

Mako, does this conversation make sense?

 

Yes I also missed this, Nimo is awesome, great guy. Approaches the game from different angles, very sharp player.

Definitely deserves a welcome from the group, good to see you buddy.