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Roulette Why are people so reluctant to accept that roulette can't be beaten?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Warren Arnold, May 28, 2020.

  1. Warren Arnold

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    Okay,

    My friend was a retired teacher and spent a considerable amount of time at several of the local casinos I used to frequent. He wasn't necessarily always there just for the action. He used to go there to socialise as much as anything else. I think he was also quite fond of the builders' tea and the stale cheese and tomatoes sandwiches!

    Joking aside, his strategy relied on identifying repeating patterns in the hope that those patterns would continue to repeat.
    He would sit at the auto roulette watching about four or five different tables that you could choose to play from.

    The specific pattern he was looking for was three consecutive even money chances, like three reds for example, then a break. Now if that pattern repeated quite quickly, the next time two of those even money chances came in, the next time two reds came in for this example, he would gamble on the pattern repeating a third time. It could be the same even money chance, or its opposite.

    Instead of backing just the next spin, though, he would use what he called 'a limited martingale' for three spins, 1-2-4, for a total of seven units.
    If the progression bust, he would then start looking for another repeating pattern, again confirming it by waiting for it to repeat twice before betting on it to repeat a third time. Curiously, he would ignore the table he had just lost on even if another pattern seemed to be emerging. Superstition perhaps. This time he would use what he called a 'Recovery Martingale', 2-4-8, for a total of fourteen units.

    If he lost the first tier of his progression he would have to win four times on the second tier, without it busting, to regain his seven lost units plus one unit of profit. He would take £105 with him and look to win five or six units, or £25 to £30. Sometimes he achieved this, sometimes he didn't but he rarely blew his bankroll. I'm not sure why he never looked to increase the size of his units, perhaps it was a discipline thing. As I said, he played the strategy like a robot.

    I don't understand how he did so well with this system. It goes against everything I know and understand and yet I saw him doing consistently well with it. I'm certainly not suggesting it is a winning system and I don't advocate anyone using it but the reason I share it here is as an example of someone who was playing a casino game with a negative expectation, using a clearly flawed system that shouldn't work - and yet was still able to do quite well by quitting when he got ahead and staying disciplined.

    Go figure!
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I spent the last 14 years working on a technique I called Reading Randomness. Your old man had one specific thing he would search for, I call these a characteristic, that show signs of opportunity for him. I took hundreds of characteristics and created a construct from them. I then added a complete conditional awareness layer to all that. It has evolved into an extensive skill capacity that I set out a few years back to prove it could be taught to a complete novice in just a couple of months working at least two hours per day. Last July I decided to teach it to the world for free. There are skeptics and mathBoyz that post all throughout that thread, especially at first. There are people that try it out right in front of you. There are people that deliberately set out to fail at it and do a half asst job of masking their moves. I also created practice software to instruct , teach, and prove that it can be learned.

    Just for the record, several of us have gone well past 1 to 1 on an unfair Even Chance bet like Red or Black. We all reached 2 to 1 or better except for one person. That is supposed to be mathematically impossible. And I'm counting on enough people doing better than 1 to 1 with it so that everything believed until now will then become a case for reconsideration.

    Enjoy: https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/
     
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  3. Warren Arnold

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    Gizmotron,

    I had a quick look through your thread.

    I have to be honest, with respect, I am still unconvinced.

    Here's an idea for you though: If you are sure Reading Randomness works and you really want to teach the world for free, set up a YouTube channel, deposit some cash to an online casino, then live stream a session every day for a month. You will not only get your message out to a wider audience, you will also silence your critics at the same time.

    Just an idea.
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There are several YouTube videos already there for the practice software. I don't want it out there that fast.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My plan is to have this blow up in the faces of everyone unconvinced. I want them to become convinced about the time the casinos figure out a way to shut it down. So It's sort of a shit sandwich that they will eat at a later date. I just wanted to make sure that you saw it before you go off and write your second book.
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I looked into your stuff too, all of 5 minutes , not impressed.

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    In plain, simple language you will learn things such as:

    How to maintain focus and self-discipline
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    The difference between sensible staking strategies and blind progressions
    How to work out reward to risk ratios, calculate EV and lots more.
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    Buy this book, follow the blueprint and start earning some serious money!

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  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here, let me tease you into seeing a different characteristic of randomness. Take the Black / Red numbers. Now watch for how many times singles on the weak side occurs on average in 100 spin sequences. It's just one specific characteristic that is very common. Perhaps you are just discovering the notion of a strong side and a weak side. BTW, I coined the phrase Elegant Pattern more than 14 years ago on a gambling forum much like this one. That's when a perfect sequence of spins performs a perfect pattern for more than 30 spins in a row. I once observed the same 24 numbers dominate on 4 different tables continuously for 4.5 hours one night. The same 14 numbers kind of went to sleep. Impressive don't you think? People are not oriented toward pattern recognition because they are protected by the magical belief in the house's advantage. I'm just trying to free them from that absurd protection. It's like everyone telling Columbus what was going to happen to him if he sailed away to the west. "It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So."
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Let me show you another characteristic that you can store away (Zombie) - just kidding. I just had a great idea. These people are just like math zombies as a reflection of that great video of the Cranberries and the song Zombie. "In your Head, In your head..." What a song.

    Look between line 65 and 89 in the Black & Red section of the chart located near the left edge. There is a total absence of singles in that grouping. It's a bag of gold just waiting for a skillful player to grab it. A Pro Gambler would know exactly how to pounce on it. It's a not well formed streak of triples also. Interesting how mathZombies can't use information like that.

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  9. Punkcity

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    thanks Gizmotron love your work, cheers
     
  10. Warren Arnold

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    Hi Gizmotron,

    Thanks for your reply.

    I hope you understand, I didn't mean to criticise or offend you in any way.

    I actually think some of your observations are really interesting and thought provoking. I don't mean to dismiss any of your theories out of hand. My suggestion for you to start a YouTube channel and live stream your results was genuine. I wouldn't worry too much about the casinos getting on to it and shutting it down, as you put it. Actually, if your theories hold up, there is no way that they could possibly shut it down other than drastically changing the payouts perhaps, which would kill the game.

    I enjoy gambling and writing in equal measure so it was perhaps inevitable that I would eventually write about gambling. The lock-down gave me the opportunity to do just that. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything or sell some kind of flawed system. My book is essentially free, it's available on Kindle Unlimited, which anyone can get a free trial of from Amazon. The book I'm working on now is about roulette, hence the reason I briefly jumped into this forum. Again, the book will be available for free. I will talk a little bit about this history or roulette, explore why progressions and other system-based approaches don't work and share some of the methods I personally use when occasionally playing roulette, which can produce some stellar runs but are still losing methods overall I imagine.

    Anyway, I need to get on with writing and various other little projects so this will be my last post for a while but thank you to everyone for all the replies.

    I wish you all the very best of luck!
     
  11. gizmotron

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    I found something even more interesting than YouTube because it records every bet placed so that anyone can see what I bet, how much, and how that session went.

    It's here: https://roulette-simulator.info/en

    I'll be using a strict 18, 19 ,20 or 1 valued bets based on the different sizes of my sets from my custom groupings spelled out in RR. Somebody talked me into trying this out this way. I'm using it to demonstrate my playing method. You should check it out because you can actually look at some of the progression players methods and results. So I will not attack the super streaks like I always do. I'll just flat bet them at 18 - 20. Someone wants me to just stick to a flat bet or a virtual bet.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I changed my mind and went back to attacking bets, grinding bets, and virtual bets. There is no point in passing up an obvious recovery opportunity. This will expose my real playing technique. It's a little different than 3 & 7. I am stopping on 3 to make a point but I'm also trying to never lose a session.
     
  13. Punkcity

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    Was that the gag reflex kicking in? Tea bagged and dry throated . What a day. Guess some people are living the dream whatever the particular nightmare is they write about. Free on tinder who'd thought.

    Although Warren is gone and dusted, I did enjoy the excellent posts by some of you so I guess not a total waste of internet space after all. Actually ansewered some of my unasked questions, thanks
     
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    Jusr ordered it, thanks! Gizmo

    Btw, love the Cranberries, so pity she did suicide.
     

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    Big smile for daddy! Please continue.. a real Hero.. in teaching you can be me...

     
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    The topic was better than expected without any signs of controversy in the wings .
     

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