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  1. Harley

    Harley Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Heavy is only writing hater BS again .... Heavy cannot stick to the facts but instead has to be malicious and write more fiction :rolleyes: and Heavy will sensor and Cyber-bully anyone that disagrees with his fiction
     
  2. Harley

    Harley Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Follow the logic and observe for yourself ....

    Ever notice that a car salesman will tell you anything just to sell you something -- well, Steve "Heavy" Haltom does it again when he says:

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    Don't believe one word of it -- Casino personnel will know 95% of all dice setters no matter how quick they set the dice. Think about it --- if a dice setter walks up to the table, aren't you able to tell if he/she is a dice setter and probably what dice school they went to after just a few tosses ??!! .... and don't you think the casino dice personnel have a little more experience than you do.

    Besides -- remember Heavy sells his dice setting DVD's to the Las Vegas Dice Schools -- so Heavy even helps the casinos bring the heat on with his car salesmanship attitude of sale anything to everybody, no matter the consequence.

    A Craps Advantage Player may get heat from the casino for any number of reasons, but setting the dice "so quickly" as if you are trying to hide what you are doing will not minimize the heat -- in fact it may bring on more heat if the casino cannot figure out what you are doing at a glance and have to watch closer to figure out if you are cheating or not.

    ** - Link to Heavy's misspelled guidance
     
  3. Harley

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    Invidious Heavy aka Captain Bligh the Pirate ....
    Like a Pirate, only Heavy is allowed to "harvest posts" from others:

    Word on the Las Vegas Strip is that Steve "Heavy" Haltom stole all the material for his craps courses and most of what he copies onto his message board -- Axis Power Craps Forum on-line ... it seems Heavy does not mind crossing legal borders as long as he benefits ..... maybe it's time a joint legal letter is AGAIN sent to Heavy and Irishsetter -- similar to the one they both received a few years ago ..... I was in the room when both Heavy and Irishsetter were laughing about that legal letter, saying they were not scared ........

    it seems the Captain Bligh name for Heavy is most appropriate considering he has a practice of regularly Pirating anything craps related .... consider this story posted on the gaming today website on September 22, 2009:

    "Vic Vickrey loved the story of the $500 shoeshine, reflecting, as it did, the personalities and extravagance associated with freewheeling high-rollers having the time of their life in Las Vegas.
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    As for the shoeshine story …

    You’re not gonna believe this," Vickrey said, calling me on an afternoon in the early 1980s, when he was running the Aladdin for co-owner Ed Torres. "Don’t know that I’ve ever seen anything like this."

    And he explained the whiskey-soaked saga of several high-spirited gamblers, wealthy oilmen from the Midland-Odessa area of West Texas who had been at the Aladdin the previous weekend. Vickrey had been at home asleep when a casino supervisor called, saying he might want to get over to the casino so he could give Torres the facts about what was happening when the Aladdin owner returned from travels that had taken him out of town.

    Torres had a reputation for not taking bad news well. Vickrey was aware of this as he dressed and drove to the Aladdin where he found his West Texas "buddies" enjoying themselves in a way that is only possible when they are big winners and the drinks are on the house.

    Vickrey approached them to say hello, saying he hoped they were enjoying the evening although it was perfectly clear they were and then he stepped away to let them continue their noisy partying.

    One of the gamblers – we’ll call him Joe – left his seat at the blackjack table and walked unsteadily in the direction of the men’s room, eventually returning to sit down and continue his play.

    It was several minutes before it hit Vickrey: Where were Joe’s boots? He was barefoot and the custom-made boots that Vickrey knew had cost well over a thousand dollars were nowhere near the table.

    So Vickrey walked back to Joe and, keeping his tone casual, asked what had happened to his boots.

    "Gave them to your boy in the restroom for a shine," shoeless Joe slurred, as though this took care of any further need for explanations.

    Oh-oh Vickrey said to himself, knowing full well there was no shoeshine person on duty in the hotel at that time of night. Vickrey hurried to the restroom.

    He checked the trash cans in and near the bathroom. No sign of the boots. No sign of anyone standing around with a pair of expensive cowboy boots in his hand.

    This is not good, Vickrey thought, heading to his office where he made calls to nearby casinos, telling them to detain anyone trying to cash a $500 Aladdin chip. There was not much else to be done, but Vickrey checked and re-checked trash cans, hoping he could at least get Joe’s boots back to him.

    Vickrey was standing near the Aladdin’s front door pondering the bad news he would have to deliver to shoeless Joe when an African American man in a suit and tie walked in the front door and stopped to scan the casino as though he was looking for someone.

    What caught Vickrey’s attention was the pair of cowboy boots in a plastic bag the man was holding in one hand. The man started in the direction of shoeless Joe’s table as Vickrey hurried over and grabbed him by the arm.

    "Excuse me."

    Vickrey introduced himself and said he was looking for a pair of cowboy boots that looked very much like the pair in the plastic bag.

    "Well, I’m guessing they are," the man said, going on to explain that he was a realtor from Oakland in town on a convention and had been washing his hands in the Aladdin bathroom a couple hours earlier when, "This drunk cowboy takes off his boots, tosses them at me and tells me to shine them up good."

    The man said he was seriously tempted to toss the boots back at the cowboy, except the cowboy flipped him a $500 chip.

    "Well," he said, "I’m at a loss for words, but my mama didn’t raise no fool so I came outside and asked the cab driver where I could get a shoeshine this time of night. The cab driver says you might have to go down to the Union Plaza."

    Vickrey was struggling to absorb all this.

    "So I told the driver, let’s go to the Union Plaza. I got them shined and what’s more I won another $200 playing slots while I was waiting."

    The visitor looked at the stunned Vickrey who managed a nod and said he guessed that was explanation enough.

    "Now, if you’ll excuse me," the man said, "I want to get these boots back to the cowboy over there."

    And he did, Vickrey watching as Joe slipped the boots back on like a man who had gotten nothing more or less than the service he had requested.
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    http://www.gamingtoday.com/articles/article/22951-Vic_Vickrey_enjoyed_the_boots_story
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    now Exhibit 2 -- on Heavy's website, he PIRATES the same story just 3 weeks later WITHOUT a reference to gaming today .... AND like the Mad Professor does so often, Heavy posted this Boot story as if it was his own:

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    "Many years ago, when the late Vickery was the manager of the (old) Aladdin he got a call from his shift manager telling him there was a problem with a couple of wealthy oil men from Texas and that he might want to get down there to handle it personally. When Vickery arrived at the casino he saw the Texans enjoying the company of several young ladies and drinking (and celebrating loudly) the way Texans on a winning streak tend to do. Vickery took charge of the Texans hoping to quiet them down a bit. One of the gamblers indicated he "had to go," got up from the blackjack table and staggered toward the men's room. Several minutes later he staggered back, and Vickery noticed that the player was not barefoot.

    "What did you do with your boots?" Vickery asked.

    "I gave 'em to your boy in the bathroom to shine," he said. He went on to tell Vickery that the boots were hand-made in Del Rio, Texas and had cost him over $2500. "I gave that boy $500 in advance to shine 'em up real good."

    Vickery knew there was no shine man on duty at the Aladdin at time of night, so he rushed to the men's room and started digging through the trash, looking for the boots. No boots.

    He got on a house phone and called the cage, instructing them to detain any African Americans cashing a $500 chip. He called security and told them to be on the look out for a black male carrying a pair of cowboy boots. Then he went back to searching trash cans, praying he could find the missing boots.

    He had worked his way up near the front door of the casino when he saw a well-dressed African American gentleman walk in. He was carrying what appeared to be a pair of cowboy boots in a plastic bag. Vickrey hurried over and grabbed the man by the arm.

    "Excuse me," he said and introduced himself. He explained that one of his customers had misplaced a pair of very expensive boots that looked very much like the pair in the bag.

    "I supposed they are," the man said. "I'm a Realtor over in Oakland and I'm over here with a convention this weekend. I was in the restroom washing my hands when this drunk cowboy staggered in, took off his boots and tossed them to me along with a $500 chip and said "shine 'em up good." I was seriously tempted just to throw the boots back at him. Then I saw that $500 chip. I was at a loss for words, but momma didn't raise no fool. I told him I'd get 'em shined right up for him, then came out, got a cab and asked the driver where I could get a shine this time of night. "Union Plaza," the cabbie said, and off we went. Not only did I make $500 from the cowboy - I won $200 at slots while I was waiting on the shine man to finish up the boots. And now if you'll excuse me, I see the man these boots belong to right over there."

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    http://axispower.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=lounge&action=display&thread=8370

    ....... guess them teachers in Arkansas teach the fine craft of plagiarism -- or is that Pirateism
     
  4. Grafstein_disciple

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    I'm not sure it's news that a blog about Gambling posted stories about gambling on their blog.

    Just saying.
     
  5. superrick

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    There is a difference in what you are saying and plagiarism. How about someone coming to you site and ripping off what you just wrote and never giving you credit for it or giving a link back to what you wrote, how would you feel about it then?
     
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    Grafstein_disciple - evidently you like other people from Canada (cue in Mad Professor) don't care to follow the laws because you too have plagiarized a recent article of mine and violated several copyright laws if you have anything to do with this website and the article that was posted on November 1, 2014:

    New post on DiceDoctor.info
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    Against all odds….from Beau Parker’s latest Newsletter….
    by dicedoctor
    Craps – What is New Jersey Gaming Enforcement trying to hide

    http://dicedoctor.info/?p=756 AND

    https://dicedoctor.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/against-all-odds-from-beau-parkers-latest-newsletter/

    You included over 99% of my article that I originally wrote on October 26, 2014 without ever giving reference to my website, me or the original source:

    http://crapsadvantageplayers.blogspot.com/search/label/New Jersey

    What is New Jersey Gaming Enforcement trying to hide ...

    You did give reference to DiceCoach's newsletter, but you gave no source reference to DiceCoach's writing which did include a reference to me ... DiceCoach did have my permission to post this article unlike yourself where you conveniently left out any reference to me or my original writing :cool: o_O

     
  7. Grafstein_disciple

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  8. Harley

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    @Grafstein_disciple .... I don't mind you keeping the post .... the information in the article is still valid and should be shared, it would just be nice if you included an original source reference ... that's the law and as noted on my website:

     
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    I received this new thread and post started by Heavy on his board in an email from $nakeEye$

    Wow ... talk about a double standard [​IMG] ... Heavy is able to disclose my real name on both boards (this one - see below quotes - and his public board), yet he says no one else should name real names due to the malicious nature of doing so ... Does Heavy even read his own posts ??!!!!! (apologies to Frank S., but this deserves extra exclamation marks)

     
  10. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    YOU are NOTHING short of a BALD FACED LIAR ! -

    Not only did I NOT send you an email - I do NOT have your email address number ONE -

    AND IF I did have it -

    I would NOT give YOU the right time of day -

    ONE of these days I will meet you in Vegas -

    And woe be to you when I do -

    That is a promise - you lying sack of sh*t ! -

    You just like to stir the pot to see what kind of sh*t you bring to the surface -

    MY QUESTION now is - WHAT ELSE that YOU SAY is ALSO a LIE ?

    MY guess is - just about everything !

    $...eE..$

    P.S. - I know a few people who know YOUR NAME and where you live ! ;)
     
  11. Harley

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    really -- that is your rebuttal ... a denial and a personal threat ?!! - why are you scared of sharing something with me from a public board after all the communications we have had ... I thought I would just give credit where credit is due
     
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    Harley -

    NOT a threat -

    A promise !

    You can that to the bank, Buddy !

    You need to realize that you are NOT dealing with Frank Scoblete, Heavy Haltom, the Mad Professor, Howard Rock'N'Roller or others -

    You just bit off more than you can chew !

    $...eE..$
     
  13. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    Prove to this forum that YOU are truthful -

    I INSIST that YOU post the email that I SENT YOU -

    THEN I will proclaim to the world that it is " I " -

    NOT YOU -

    Who is THE LIAR !

    WHAT say you now -

    Aside from - " I deleted the email message " ?

    $...eE..$
     
  14. Harley

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    SnakeEyes - again, I don't understand the big deal about you being upset .... if you say it wasn't you, I am not going to argue - it's no big deal and a moot point in my post .... very possible that it was an email from another sock puppet pretending to be you, sock puppets have been running rampant here lately trying to stir the pot - looks like they accomplished their mission if it wasn't you
     

  15. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    POST the email message WITH all headers -

    THEN WE ALL will know WHO the culprit is -

    OR -

    Do YOU lack the BALLS to do so ?

    MY guess would be - YOU are a " PU$$Y " -

    And think - in your limited capacity mind - that THIS ENDS HERE -

    Well -

    YOU need to THINK again !

    POST THE MESSAGE, HARLEY !!!!!!!!!!!

    $...eE..$
     
  16. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    When we meet face to face -

    I will " explain it " to you -

    However, -

    Being a " man of few words " and having a speech impediment -

    At times I need to let the " Italian " in me - come out -

    And " talk with my hands " ! ;)

    We will meet ! :)

    $...eE..$
     
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    Harley -

    POST THE EMAIL MESSAGE with ALL headers -

    And LET ALL see who " Speaks the TRUTH - OR - who " IS THE LIAR " -

    If I was a betting man - :D

    I would " BET THE FARM " -

    The LIAR is YOU ! :)

    $...eE..$
     
  18. Admin Team

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    Folks, let's please keep the threats of violence -- direct and indirect -- off this site.

    This is a strong accusation to make without providing any evidence to support it and we certainly haven't seen anything to suggest it. So please provide evidence to support this accusation and please be very specific.
     
  19. Harley

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    Admin - Fair enough, I will start a whole new thread with evidence for you to come to your own conclusions later this week or so

    .... do understand that my reference to "here" does not mean here as in this physical website, but a reference to time and virtual space ... maybe I should have said "around here lately" (meaning craps internet message boards) or just "lately" to be more clear
     
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    Please do it sooner rather than later as you've left that accusation hanging out in the open and we want to get to the bottom of it ASAP. Thank you.

    Nevermind then. In the future, please only use "here" when referring to GF.
     

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